Why is there an ash tray next to the bed? I think CCP is sending the wrong message.

A box of Kleenex I could understand.

Why is there an ash tray next to the bed? I think CCP is sending the wrong message.

A box of Kleenex I could understand.

"Liberals are constantly accusing Christians of being intolerant and self-righteous, but the most earnest Christian has never approached the preachy intolerance of a liberal who has just discovered a lit cigarette in a nonsmoking section."

"Liberals are constantly accusing Christians of being intolerant and self-righteous, but the most earnest Christian has never approached the preachy intolerance of a liberal who has just discovered a lit cigarette in a nonsmoking section."

Why is there an ash tray next to the bed? I think CCP is sending the wrong message.

Why is there an ash tray next to the bed? I think CCP is sending the wrong message.

A box of Kleenex I could understand.

I stopped smoking about 5 months ago and this is seriously annoying me.

I use ashtrays to put my spare change and keys in.

Quite handy once you get used to it as you never misplace them again and consequently don-¦t have to look for them.
You can thank me the next time you undock just in time to pop this nasty wartarget camping your station and did not have to go in search for the keys to your spaceship first.

Why is there an ash tray next to the bed? I think CCP is sending the wrong message.

A box of Kleenex I could understand.

Why is there an ash tray next to the bed? I think CCP is sending the wrong message.

A box of Kleenex I could understand.

Why is there an ash tray next to the bed? I think CCP is sending the wrong message.

A box of Kleenex I could understand.

My CQ has discarded beer bottles strewn about in a drunken rage.

Ignore the fact we can take hallucinogens, uppers, downers, the live stock people, and the prostitutes; it's the ash trays that are the real morally questionable items in the game.

I use ashtrays to put my spare change and keys in.

Quite handy once you get used to it as you never misplace them again and consequently don-¦t have to look for them.
You can thank me the next time you undock just in time to pop this nasty wartarget camping your station and did not have to go in search for the keys to your spaceship first.

Every time i hear "Smoking can kill you!" i simply respond:

"talking **** can kill you even faster!"

(and hey, i'm working in a tobacco shop!)

It would be very nice, and maybe easy for coffee table options. Wouldn't it be nice to have certain trade goods like long limb roses, or spiced wine on the table? Just don't have any plutonium out in the open!

Studies about Christianity haven't really shown much of anything.

and everyone knows that smoke shops are totally about smoking tobacco out of pieces of glass art, right?

or did you mean like, an *actual* tobacco shop, like the snooty cigar-kind?

Studies have shown that second hand smoke can increase the chance of cancer.
Studies about Christianity haven't really shown much of anything.

how about now?

So OP I agree with you there. There's really no need for an ash tray in a game where you can't smoke anyway. Definitely sends the wrong message.

My personal take on smoking is a pretty negative one. If smoking harmed you, and only you, I would have absolutely no trouble with it. You can do anything else you wish, no matter how addictive or deadly, and you wouldn't get a peep from me. The issue with smoking is...well...smoke, and its effects on others.

Case in point, in summer time when my neighbour two doors down gets on his front porch and starts smoking, I have to shut all the windows in my house because the prevalent wind carries the smoke RIGHT into my windows and all the front-facing rooms end up reeking of tobacco. He might very well end up killing me with second-hand smoke at some point. But since he's technically smoking on his property, there's f***all I can do to stop him. And being a pig, he refused to even consider it when I talked to him about it.

Beyond that, I really have no beef with smoking. In fact I think it should be tax-free and free coupons should be handed out to smokers. To speed things along, so to speak.

So OP I agree with you there. There's really no need for an ash tray in a game where you can't smoke anyway. Definitely sends the wrong message.

While your personal experience is unfortunate, I think in the context of EVE, it sends the perfect message. That of course being, you're going to die eventually constantly anyway.

So, people complain because there's a pixel ashtray in a pixel room, in a game about spaceships ?
No complaints about killing though hey ? I mean, an ashtray is so like "OMG", but death is cool. Hunting people down in a game is cool, killboards are cool.

I laugh when I think about how Op wants to worry about the image an ashtray portrays in a game, but nothing about death and destruction. Incredibly ridiculous, in the extreme. You have your priorities wrong. Very wrong.

Except a long history of murder and genocide, and a history of causing people tor refuse life saving medical treatment.

Why is there an ash tray next to the bed? I think CCP is sending the wrong message.

A box of Kleenex I could understand.

Not even talking about all the obscurantism period where human civilisation and progression stagnated for over 850 years and science/arts were considered as devil art leading to the death of some brilliant individuals.

Religions no matter witch just just be completely abolished, they have no place and they will never be forgiveable for everything they did/still do in our days.

Only science should prevail.

Because the world is all about western civilization, amirite? Hint: learn about origins of Renaissance.

Studies have shown that second hand smoke can increase the chance of cancer.
Studies about Christianity haven't really shown much of anything.

Studies have shown that tanning beds, the sun, car exhaust, and according to California the brown stuff on slightly burnt fast food all cause cancer. If I avoided everything on earth that causes cancer I would never leave my house and play video games on my PC all day...

You are immortal so smoke up.

What would have happened if Rome survived and there was no christianity? It's hard to say - for the later part of its existence, Rome was plagued by civil wars and stagnation. It's unlikely that it would be any different from Byzantium - in other words, Europe may well be speaking arabic today, America might be discovered later or perhaps even by Chinese (who technically had better ships in 14th century and led many of the more important advances throughout the middle ages), etc. We'll never know.

Not sure if troll or incredibly liberal...if troll here you go...

http://dagobah.net/flash/successful_troll_2.swf

I didn't realise CCP forced you to smoke in game

On a more serious note, just turn of CQ if it annoys you that much

My personal take on smoking is a pretty negative one. If smoking harmed you, and only you, I would have absolutely no trouble with it. You can do anything else you wish, no matter how addictive or deadly, and you wouldn't get a peep from me. The issue with smoking is...well...smoke, and its effects on others.

Case in point, in summer time when my neighbour two doors down gets on his front porch and starts smoking, I have to shut all the windows in my house because the prevalent wind carries the smoke RIGHT into my windows and all the front-facing rooms end up reeking of tobacco. He might very well end up killing me with second-hand smoke at some point. But since he's technically smoking on his property, there's f***all I can do to stop him. And being a pig, he refused to even consider it when I talked to him about it.
Beyond that, I really have no beef with smoking. In fact I think it should be tax-free and free coupons should be handed out to smokers. To speed things along, so to speak.

So OP I agree with you there. There's really no need for an ash tray in a game where you can't smoke anyway. Definitely sends the wrong message.

The bigger problem is that I can't use boosters or other drugs in the CQ.
CCP could turn tripping into a minigame or something...like the next ship spinning :O