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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.08.19 14:13:00 -
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praznimrak wrote:Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:praznimrak wrote:Guy you are intersting ,but i woud like to see some more inteligent ideas Use a scout? Scout got insta poped
I don't think you quite get how scouting works Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
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Dirk Culliford
Zero G Universal Enterprises
12
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Posted - 2012.08.19 14:24:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:praznimrak wrote:Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:praznimrak wrote:Guy you are intersting ,but i woud like to see some more inteligent ideas Use a scout? Scout got insta poped I don't think you quite get how scouting works
"Just NPC's in here, jump in!!"
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
516
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Posted - 2012.08.19 14:28:00 -
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Tyrton wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:It's not so much that, they're easy to avoid if you're not an idiot, but it does impede movement and provide a major inconvenience. so is player camps ... yet when someone posts about that you get the HTFU comments from guys like you. Uh yeah, because they're PLAYER camps. EVE's 4th of July Fireworks |
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management Unified Church of the Unobligated
623
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Posted - 2012.08.19 14:48:00 -
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praznimrak wrote:Gun Gal wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Maybe so, but if that's the case then I don't agree with the design intent. maybe if you learned to play eve you would not be so upset? lets see, jump scout in, scout gets insta popped. did you check log of scout? did you see it was sansha? did you notice they do heavy em and therm damage? did you doa quick refit to get resists up above 80% before jumping in? do you ever check incursion hotspots to see if your close to one, especially in lowsec? you didnt do any of these, hence you dying less than spectacularily, hate to say it but, man L2P, lowsec is rife with outlaws, both human and npc. This game is full of experts like you. Mr expert it is fine for you that a scout got poped by insta locking,huge dps,incredibel range web npc on a stargate???? it did not hapend to you or any other WISE GIVINGOPPINION MTF in this post,So STFU . Seems all the fails of RL did become experts in football,cars,politics and now EVE too.
I wouldn't say we're experts, we just know how to use scouts and don't need help getting dressed in the morning. But then, if understanding what scouting entails makes someone an expert, so be it.
Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims. |
Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1692
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Posted - 2012.08.19 14:59:00 -
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Deal with it.
(this guy is so bad, he's complaining about NPCs) (sure, pick on those who can't defend themselves!) Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9189
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Posted - 2012.08.19 15:20:00 -
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The idea is that incursions are supposed to be hugely disruptive to the standard gameplay going on in the affected constellation, thereby giving the residents a strong incentive to either get rid of the Sansha or stay away.
It seems to be working.
I also agree with a number of other posters that they should have extended the camps to highsec and allowed incursions to hit a wider array of areas. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
662
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Posted - 2012.08.19 16:21:00 -
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Tippia wrote:The idea is that incursions are supposed to be hugely disruptive to the standard gameplay going on in the affected constellation, thereby giving the residents a strong incentive to either get rid of the Sansha or stay away.
It seems to be working.
I also agree with a number of other posters that they should have extended the camps to highsec and allowed incursions to hit a wider array of areas.
They should have never get rid of high sec gate camps. Also: lol high sec belt rats, those guys should have tested the first incursion version of high sec, they'd feel ridiculous. brb |
Larloch TheAncient
Alpha Arms and Manufacturing Order of the Void
2
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Posted - 2012.08.19 16:59:00 -
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What is the point of gate camps made of REAL PLAYERS????
I dont get it,i m travelling whit my pvE ship true low sec,having to avoid INCURSIONS,SPACE WHALES and i just discovered that all of that is peace of cake compared whit PVP GATECAMP.
Jumped thrue gate in small gang ,and first to decloak was a frig that got scrambeld and insta poped and after that my heavily tanked navy omen,that did survive 25 GURISTA bc PVE PLEX,10 man frig and desis,was almost insta poped by 5 PLAYERS!!! Neutralized,scramed,webd and receiving insane amount of dps by PVP CAMP IN LOW SEC.
WHAT IS THE IDEA BEHIND THIS CCP.
It is not,fun,there is nothing to learn from it,gates are full of wracks of ppl that did not decide to engage in PVP,just traveld and got ganked by PLAYERS.
Remove AGGRESSION from gates,PVPERS are there to be engage in ASTROID BELTS and not to gank ppl passing true system.
And if you insist on keeping tham on gates,make tham agres stations,POS structures,make sleepers agres ppl on wormholes,and so on.
PVP dont make sense on gates, especial not in numbers and power that can take BS in few sec.
FIX IT PLEASE |
Abel Merkabah
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
104
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Posted - 2012.08.19 17:19:00 -
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Larloch TheAncient wrote:What is the point of gate camps made of REAL PLAYERS????
I dont get it,i m travelling whit my pvE ship true low sec,having to avoid INCURSIONS,SPACE WHALES and i just discovered that all of that is peace of cake compared whit PVP GATECAMP.
Jumped thrue gate in small gang ,and first to decloak was a frig that got scrambeld and insta poped and after that my heavily tanked navy omen,that did survive 25 GURISTA bc PVE PLEX,10 man frig and desis,was almost insta poped by 5 PLAYERS!!! Neutralized,scramed,webd and receiving insane amount of dps by PVP CAMP IN LOW SEC.
WHAT IS THE IDEA BEHIND THIS CCP.
It is not,fun,there is nothing to learn from it,gates are full of wracks of ppl that did not decide to engage in PVP,just traveld and got ganked by PLAYERS.
Remove AGGRESSION from gates,PVPERS are there to be engage in ASTROID BELTS and not to gank ppl passing true system.
And if you insist on keeping tham on gates,make tham agres stations,POS structures,make sleepers agres ppl on wormholes,and so on.
PVP dont make sense on gates, especial not in numbers and power that can take BS in few sec.
FIX IT PLEASE
Or you could HTFU and learn how to travel through lowsec. Maybe think twice before jumping your whole gang through at once.
Traveling through lowsec is not hard, it just doesn't tolerate ignorance. "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems." |
ugh zug
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Posted - 2012.08.19 17:20:00 -
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guess you will remember not to travel into incursions?
the gatecamp serves as a barrier of difficulty to enter the sites, as well as protection from roaming fleets looking for easy pve ships to kill. perfect for nullsec, and lowsec. Want me to shut up?-á Send me ISK and i'll stop giving suggestions to CCP that make sense. Remove content from my post, 15 bil Remove my content from a thread I have started 30bil. |
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Adeleda Adoudel
Archangels of Purgatory
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Posted - 2012.08.19 17:32:00 -
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The whole idea of the incursion is Sansha lock down the constellation. If there wasn't anything hindering your entrance it wouldn't be a very good lockdown would it? Incursion constellations show up in your journel so unlike player camps, you have plenty ofwarning. Learn to play. Its not a new mechanic. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
105
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Posted - 2012.08.19 17:40:00 -
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Andski wrote:they should add those camps to the hisec incursion systems
you know, for balance
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Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
307
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Posted - 2012.08.19 17:43:00 -
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Incursions is one of the very big features that is working pretty much correctly imo Selective Pressure [FOVRA] is now recruiting! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1797934#post1797934 |
Yokai Mitsuhide
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
403
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Posted - 2012.08.19 17:45:00 -
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praznimrak wrote:[quote=James Amril-Kesh]
CCp should remove them from gates,and keep them in combat sites
Yes...because pirates would have no interest in pirate like activities. |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation The Irukandji
587
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Posted - 2012.08.19 19:27:00 -
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I'm guessing OP hasn't run into the guy that just sits on a gate in a Rokh with all smartbombs active yet... |
XxRTEKxX
Fenrir's Dogs of War Union 0f Revolution
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Posted - 2012.08.19 19:31:00 -
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So it plays to the idea of an incursion. Shut down the entire system. If the npcs at gates were in hishsec, then there should be a battle by the faction and sansha ships. That would make it more interesting. Then highsec pilots could take part in defending the gates along with the npc faction ships.
If ccp is trying tio simulate an npc war, then they should take it all the way. Sansha at all gates, highsec having to fight faction npcs and players. |
Belshazzar Babylon
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
69
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Posted - 2012.08.19 21:58:00 -
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I thought space was supposed to be dangerous. |
Mistah Ewedynao
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.19 22:09:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Yeah, I think the incursion gatecamps are detrimental to gameplay. As I've stated in other threads, I don't think PVE elements should interfere with my ability to travel and do PVP.
Nonconsensual PVP is necessary of course for this game, but nonconsensual PVE, at least on the level of intensity that the incursion rats have, is ridiculous.
So, inversely, I don't think your PvP should interfere with my ability to travel and do PVE, Hey what's good for goose............. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
519
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Posted - 2012.08.19 22:12:00 -
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Mistah Ewedynao wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Yeah, I think the incursion gatecamps are detrimental to gameplay. As I've stated in other threads, I don't think PVE elements should interfere with my ability to travel and do PVP.
Nonconsensual PVP is necessary of course for this game, but nonconsensual PVE, at least on the level of intensity that the incursion rats have, is ridiculous. So, inversely, I don't think your PvP should interfere with my ability to travel and do PVE, Hey what's good for goose............. No, because this is a PVP game. EVE's 4th of July Fireworks |
Lord Arakkis
Vestige of Vehemence Dragon Swarm Dynasty
37
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Posted - 2012.08.19 22:18:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Maybe so, but if that's the case then I don't agree with the design intent.
Not to be a total jerk, but the best option for you it seems is simple: do something else you enjoy. You know what they say about the definition of insanity.... Your still a child in the eyes of the universe |
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illirdor
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
23
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Posted - 2012.08.19 22:19:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Mistah Ewedynao wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Yeah, I think the incursion gatecamps are detrimental to gameplay. As I've stated in other threads, I don't think PVE elements should interfere with my ability to travel and do PVP.
Nonconsensual PVP is necessary of course for this game, but nonconsensual PVE, at least on the level of intensity that the incursion rats have, is ridiculous. So, inversely, I don't think your PvP should interfere with my ability to travel and do PVE, Hey what's good for goose............. No, because this is a PVP game. -¿ well its the same OP is complaining about
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Mistah Ewedynao
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
76
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Posted - 2012.08.19 22:26:00 -
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Exactly, just another null bear telling us how we should play our game. |
illirdor
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2012.08.19 22:27:00 -
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praznimrak wrote:What is the point of gate camps made of sansha npcs????
I dont get it,i m travelling whit my pvp ship true low sec,having to avoid pirates,war targets and i just discovered that all of that is peace of cake compared whit sansha gate camp.
Jumped thrue gate in small gang ,and first to decloak was a frig that got scrambeld and insta poped and after that my heavily tanked navy omen,that did survive 5 man bc gang,10 man frig and desis,was almost insta poped by THRUE POWER. Neutralized,scramed,webd and receiving insane amount of dps by NPC CAMP IN LOW SEC.
WHAT IS THE IDEA BEHIND THIS CCP.
It is not,fun,there is nothing to learn from it,gates are full of wracks of ppl that did not decide to engage in npc combat site,just traveld and got ganked by NPCS.
Remove npcs from gates,incursions are there to be engage in combat sites and not to gank ppl passing true system.
And if you insist on keeping tham on gates,make tham agres stations,POS structures,make sleepers agres ppl on wormholes,and so on.
Sanshas dont make sense on gates, especial not in numbers and power that can take BS in few sec.
FIX IT PLEASE
i find it hard to believe that you where the strongest of the sperm
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ElSuerte Diego
Protectors Holdings CORE Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.08.19 22:33:00 -
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At first I thought people were joking with these "you got your PVE in my PVP" complaints. Pretty sad that elite PVPers are complaining about 'non-consensual PVE.'
I just wanted to add that incursions affect non incursion related PVE too. I was doing a mining mission in a constellation undergoing an incursion, and the normal rats got replaced with some suped up Sansah incursion frigates and cruiser. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
519
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Posted - 2012.08.19 23:07:00 -
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Why don't we just replace all the players in the game with computers and make this a single-player game? I'm sure some of you would love that. EVE's 4th of July Fireworks |
Piugattuk
CLOROFLORFILAPLANKTONPLATES
28
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Posted - 2012.08.19 23:24:00 -
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you know how long has incursion been going on and you still jump into a system with the incursion in your folders theres a folder called global reports with the info on all systems effected by incursions, 2. you know how many ships I lost at the beginning of incursion more than you guaranteed, but I finally got through in an enyo and kitted the npc's away from the gate, stay out of the war zone and you won't have to worry otherwise stick warp stabs in and pucker up you're cheeks as you jump through
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Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
79
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Posted - 2012.08.19 23:34:00 -
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Owned by NPC's ahahahaha.... |
Sucateira
Space Ambientalists
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Posted - 2012.08.19 23:37:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:praznimrak wrote:Guy you are intersting ,but i woud like to see some more inteligent ideas Use a scout?
Without joining the discussion about sanshas camping gates... actually sound like a good idea. Why does everybody answer the same way, "use a scout". Are you trying to tell me that the only recommendation in this game, or the only way to play it right is having multiple accounts, one for boosting, other for scouting or for whatever, etc? |
lanyaie
490
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Posted - 2012.08.19 23:45:00 -
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Did you loot?
Aslo yrou speelling is 2be azhamed off I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you Currently offering 100% legit hulkageddon security sponsored by the mittani, send 50m to me and 50m to him |
OssadaDeathLaw
Shadow Bones and Skulls
6
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Posted - 2012.08.20 00:00:00 -
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Sucateira wrote:Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:praznimrak wrote:Guy you are intersting ,but i woud like to see some more inteligent ideas Use a scout? Without joining the discussion about sanshas camping gates... actually sound like a good idea. Why does everybody answer the same way, "use a scout". Are you trying to tell me that the only recommendation in this game, or the only way to play it right is having multiple accounts, one for boosting, other for scouting or for whatever, etc?
A scout can be a friend/corpmate with his own account?
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