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Killgor
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:35:00 -
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My m8 and I were logi ships in one of the fleets in a high sec incursion. We were in one of the stages and repping people when one of the people being repped, dropped gang and caused my m8's logi to get popped by concord. Then, since i was giving reps to my m8 i got popped. What an a**hole. I filed a petition because there is no way to tell if someone you already have locked, in your gang, drops gang. They need to make it auto unlock a targeted gang member that leaves gang. Doing this kind of stuff will make people forget about doing high sec incursion for risk of losing their ships to jerks/alts scooping loot.
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:37:00 -
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They're working on something for the rr concord response.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1456133&page=1#11 - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
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Yuki Kulotsuki
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:38:00 -
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u mad?
Originally by: CCP Lemur THIS IS GOD: ... IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE REQUESTS I'M AVAILABLE SUNDAY FROM 10:30 TO 12:00 TO RECEIVE YOUR PRAYERS.
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Izztyrr Maemtor
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:40:00 -
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Working as intended.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Killgor
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:41:00 -
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They just need to make it a non agressive act in incursion systems. Problem solved
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Darth Gustav
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Killgor My m8 and I were logi ships in one of the fleets in a high sec incursion. We were in one of the stages and repping people when one of the people being repped, dropped gang and caused my m8's logi to get popped by concord. Then, since i was giving reps to my m8 i got popped. What an a**hole. I filed a petition because there is no way to tell if someone you already have locked, in your gang, drops gang. They need to make it auto unlock a targeted gang member that leaves gang. Doing this kind of stuff will make people forget about doing high sec incursion for risk of losing their ships to jerks/alts scooping loot.
And then high sec will have incomplete incursions, so nobody will be able to run missions effectively. It actually sounds like one of the most effective strategies ever. If the carebears fear pirates too much to go to lowsec, make them fear CONCORD even moar!
And I thought CCP hadn't thought this through! Go figure. |
Sazkyen
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Izztyrr Maemtor Working as intended.
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Grimpak
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:43:00 -
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don't gang up with people that you don't know anything about it?
also:
Originally by: Izztyrr Maemtor Working as intended.
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Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
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Major Snitch
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:44:00 -
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ok for the record i did alot of post about that game mechanic a month and a half ago......so.......but its being look into...........
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:44:00 -
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Neither exploit nor harassment. Stop clogging the petition queue. Originally by: Killgor They just need to make it a non agressive act in incursion systems. Problem solved
Yes, bring back lofty! ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
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Grimpak
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Killgor They just need to make it a non agressive act in incursion systems. Problem solved
Yes, bring back lofty!
bring back lofty! ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
ain't that right. |
Major Snitch
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:46:00 -
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well look who here mr.fanboy i told you so.............cough
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Killgor
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:49:00 -
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Edited by: Killgor on 25/01/2011 20:49:25 If you have no warning about someone in your fleet, that you have targeted and giving reps, drops fleet then I would say thats a game mechanci exploit. You have no way to counter it. And in case you havent done or gone to any of the incursions systems yet, you're ganged with almost everyone you don't know.
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Sazkyen
Originally by: Izztyrr Maemtor Working as intended.
emptyquoting (okay i lied (i do that)) _____________________ Look down. Back up. Where are you? You're on a forum, with the alt your alt could post like. |
Aessoroz
Nohbdy.
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:50:00 -
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It's not a game mechanic exploit. It's to prevent people from being repped from the concord damage.
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gfldex
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Killgor I filed a petition because there is no way to tell if someone you already have locked, in your gang, drops gang.
You can tell. Check his corp, check your corp. If there is no match stop repping him.
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Killgor Edited by: Killgor on 25/01/2011 20:49:25 If you have no warning about someone in your fleet, that you have targeted and giving reps, drops fleet then I would say thats a game mechanci exploit. You have no way to counter it. And in case you havent done or gone to any of the incursions systems yet, you're ganged with almost everyone you don't know.
It's not an exploit: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1456133&page=2#58
Originally by: CCP Soundwave
Trust is a factor in all parts of EVEs gameplay. Incursions are no different, all interaction comes with a risk.
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Candente
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Killgor Edited by: Killgor on 25/01/2011 20:49:25 If you have no warning about someone in your fleet, that you have targeted and giving reps, drops fleet then I would say thats a game mechanci exploit. You have no way to counter it. And in case you havent done or gone to any of the incursions systems yet, you're ganged with almost everyone you don't know.
It's not an exploit: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1456133&page=2#58
Originally by: CCP Soundwave
Trust is a factor in all parts of EVEs gameplay. Incursions are no different, all interaction comes with a risk.
not an exploit, but a design flaw. case settled.
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Major Snitch
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:57:00 -
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no its not a exploit but it didn't help seeing they changed overview setting ......(cough) everyone in fleet better be on my contact list.....lol...... hint ....hint
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KaarBaak
Minmatar Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: OP They need to make it auto unlock a targeted gang member that leaves gang.
This seems the most sensible solution.
Circumstances rule men; men do not rule circumstances. --Herodotus, Histories
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Killgor If you have no warning about someone in your fleet, that you have targeted and giving reps, drops fleet then I would say thats a game mechanci exploit. You have no way to counter it. And in case you havent done or gone to any of the incursions systems yet, you're ganged with almost everyone you don't know.
You do know that being in the same fleet is not a factor, right?
Whether they drop fleet or not makes no difference. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Qwyp
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Posted - 2011.01.25 20:59:00 -
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yea it's not working as intended
I was able to get reimbursed and you should be able also
there is a post they are working on a fix to this
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Nika Dekaia
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Posted - 2011.01.25 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Qwyp yea it's not working as intended
I was able to get reimbursed and you should be able also
there is a post they are working on a fix to this
It is working as intended at the moment and you should not have been reimbursed. Reimbursement of ignorant people is simply wrong, but I can see why the GMs do it.
But yes, the current RR and concord mechanic is preventing what Incursion should do in highsec (promoting players to interact and play together without knowing each other). The current mechanic has always been kinda stupid, but until now there was no real reson to change it.
Having remote mods stop working when somone triggers CONCORD seems to be the best and most simple solution.
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente Malevolence. Imperial 0rder
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Posted - 2011.01.25 23:14:00 -
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points and laughs at op. ----- Malevolence. is recruiting. Dive into the world of 0.0 !
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Aeronwen Carys
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Posted - 2011.01.25 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Nika Dekaia
Originally by: Qwyp yea it's not working as intended
I was able to get reimbursed and you should be able also
there is a post they are working on a fix to this
It is working as intended at the moment and you should not have been reimbursed. Reimbursement of ignorant people is simply wrong, but I can see why the GMs do it.
But yes, the current RR and concord mechanic is preventing what Incursion should do in highsec (promoting players to interact and play together without knowing each other). The current mechanic has always been kinda stupid, but until now there was no real reson to change it.
Having remote mods stop working when somone triggers CONCORD seems to be the best and most simple solution.
Wow, congratulations on contradicting yourself and being a total dumbass. I've bolded the relevant dumbassery.
+10 stupid for you.
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Nika Dekaia
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Posted - 2011.01.25 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: Aeronwen Carys Wow, congratulations on contradicting yourself and being a total dumbass. I've bolded the relevant dumbassery.
+10 stupid for you.
CCP knew that RR in highsec is a problem but still did not (or, as they said, could not yet) change it. So yes, stuff is working as intended by the developers for now.
Here's the part you missed when quoting and bolding me: "...at the moment..."
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.01.25 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: Nika Dekaia
Originally by: Qwyp yea it's not working as intended
I was able to get reimbursed and you should be able also
there is a post they are working on a fix to this
It is working as intended at the moment and you should not have been reimbursed. Reimbursement of ignorant people is simply wrong, but I can see why the GMs do it.
But yes, the current RR and concord mechanic is preventing what Incursion should do in highsec (promoting players to interact and play together without knowing each other). The current mechanic has always been kinda stupid, but until now there was no real reson to change it.
Having remote mods stop working when somone triggers CONCORD seems to be the best and most simple solution.
Not having a concord response is the simpler solution, making the rooms where the incursion take place work like lowsec. Deactivating modules has more room to exploit imo.
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Noun Verber
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.25 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Aeronwen Carys
Originally by: Nika Dekaia
Originally by: Qwyp yea it's not working as intended
I was able to get reimbursed and you should be able also
there is a post they are working on a fix to this
It is working as intended at the moment and you should not have been reimbursed. Reimbursement of ignorant people is simply wrong, but I can see why the GMs do it.
But yes, the current RR and concord mechanic is preventing what Incursion should do in highsec (promoting players to interact and play together without knowing each other). The current mechanic has always been kinda stupid, but until now there was no real reson to change it.
Having remote mods stop working when somone triggers CONCORD seems to be the best and most simple solution.
Wow, congratulations on contradicting yourself and being a total dumbass. I've bolded the relevant dumbassery.
+10 stupid for you.
There is no contradiction. Working as intended is CCP for working as designed, but the design may still be bad.
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Rain Valis
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Posted - 2011.01.25 23:48:00 -
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Working as Intended, or the industry standard, WAD = We didnt anticipate this result of our design decision.
WAD is too often thrown around...
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Nika Dekaia
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Posted - 2011.01.25 23:53:00 -
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Originally by: Barakkus Not having a concord response is the simpler solution, making the rooms where the incursion take place work like lowsec. Deactivating modules has more room to exploit imo.
CCP should stay close to current rules of engagement in highsec. Making it lowsec (perpetrator can shoot on to his hearts content) would be not good and confusing. Pop the offender and not the repper is the better solution.
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