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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.01.25 22:55:00 -
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Edited by: Miilla on 25/01/2011 23:01:59 Seems there is a lot of people that are VERY unhappy with the Minmatar races being very asian.
Is this being discussed by the CSM? If not, why not?
Toon appearances are VERY important for walking in stations and central to an MMO as you live in that toon for your entire game.
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Val'Dore
Word Bearers of Chaos
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Posted - 2011.01.25 23:35:00 -
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Edited by: Val''Dore on 25/01/2011 23:34:46 I like how Val turned out, but I wouldn't mind a bit more of the Mongol look from before.
~No matter what happens, somebody will find a way to take it too seriously.~ |
Midnight Hour
KARMA6EDDON
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Posted - 2011.01.25 23:37:00 -
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Edited by: Midnight Hour on 25/01/2011 23:38:00 Vherokiors and Khanids are a bugger to do much of anything with. Vherokiors look drugged or asleep altogether; their eyes are slits. Khanids look bug-eyed at best.
I had two tries with this Khanid and she still could use help. I agree that the looks of your character are important, just as stats, training and ships are. They are all what makes your toon unique. If we didn't care about any of that, we'd be playing carbon-copy-character shooter games.
I vote for a race change option too: Nowadays there are no stat differences so what does it matter? Your training, corp/alliance choices and mission faction decide your path, not your original race choice. How about calling it Witness Protection surgery and offering everyone a shot at it?
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Brainless Bimbo
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.26 00:02:00 -
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Sad bunnies, but nothing is set in stone, CCP have said they have things planned and as a lot of WiS stuff will be somewhat shady.....
What we should be lobbying for are "Cosmetic Surgery Practices" or "Image Rejuvenation and Enhancement Stations" in WiS stations, basically a shop thats the character torso and head creation process with all body types types as purchasable options and priced accordingly.
The process is based in its used environment and open to all regardless (bar standings) and has the potential for being a great ISK sink.
Personally, i happy with me ...... continues overleaf. |
Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.01.26 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Miilla on 26/01/2011 00:06:19 Go to JOURNAL and expand the listbox for REF TYPE: You can see a "DNA MOFICIATION FEE" listed.
They could use that for us to pay isk for a bloodline change but only after we try making chars in diff bloodlines to see which one we want, same race, diff bloodline would surfice no?
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GeeShizzle MacCloud
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Posted - 2011.01.26 00:11:00 -
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chances are its going to be a plex for character portrait change/update. i am unsure if the modeling feature will be included but cant really harm any game mechanic in any way. plus its well documented in the eve novels that extensive visual augmentations happen.
CSM Prop 1 CSM Prop 2 |
Bunyip
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.01.26 00:14:00 -
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A friend of mine keeps asking me why I took the picture while my Vherokoir character was blinking. I keep telling him that it's as big as they get, even after manipulating the musculature in both steps.
Supported.
======== "The civilized man is rude, as laws protect him from recompense; the savage is not, for his actions can meet a bloody end." - Robert E. Howard |
Meissa Anunthiel
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Posted - 2011.01.26 00:15:00 -
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Edited by: Meissa Anunthiel on 26/01/2011 00:16:13 When I first found out there was no way but to look like I have Down Syndrome, I practically begged for at least the ability for Verokhior to open their eyes, or give us the ability to change bloodline. That didn't work. I asked to break the arms of the person responsible for this so no more atrocities would be commited, to no avail...
I'm not giving up. ----- Member of CSM 2, 3, 4 and 5. Feel free to contact me with queries. Convo, evemail or join the "meissaCSM" in-game channel. |
Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.01.26 00:25:00 -
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Edited by: Miilla on 26/01/2011 00:25:57
Originally by: Meissa Anunthiel Edited by: Meissa Anunthiel on 26/01/2011 00:16:13 When I first found out there was no way but to look like I have Down Syndrome, I practically begged for at least the ability for Verokhior to open their eyes, or give us the ability to change bloodline. That didn't work. I asked to break the arms of the person responsible for this so no more atrocities would be commited, to no avail...
I'm not giving up.
Perhaps suggest to them that we can use PLEXs to purchase bags for our heads for waking in stations (Kinda like Valve charging for Hats in TF2)
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Wendi Watson
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Posted - 2011.01.26 01:58:00 -
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Supported
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Nora Skuld
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Posted - 2011.01.26 06:08:00 -
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Originally by: Meissa Anunthiel When I first found out there was no way but to look like I have Down Syndrome...
Or maybe it's just you and your lack of ability to make appealing characters.
Vherokiors are harder to make because you can barely customize the shape of their eyes, but that's no excuse, just deal with the constraints and make the best out of it.
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Ophelia Ursus
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Posted - 2011.01.26 06:16:00 -
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Man, look at all these whining racists.
Asians in mah spaceships, yellow peril everywhere!!11! Signature removed. |
Bean Giant
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Posted - 2011.01.26 07:06:00 -
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race related Orphanage tears. best tears.
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Jennifer Starling
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Posted - 2011.01.26 07:13:00 -
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I support the unfortunate Vherokior brothers and sisters ..
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Kelanoein
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2011.01.26 08:27:00 -
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As a Vherokior, I find myself displeased with this topic; and think that, yes, there have been some inappropriate comments made here. CSM Delegates should know better. Personally, I think my appearance is perfectly fine; and see yours, as being no less so.
I also seem to recall, Vherokior having similar Character Traits in the old editor; though, they might not perhap's, have been as noticeable there.
/not supported.
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I'thari
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Posted - 2011.01.26 09:03:00 -
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Even if you can manage to look fine - wouldn't hurt to re-do it a little: from wat I've seen it looks more like they can't lift their upper eyelids than asian. Mostly because pupil is half-covered by default, which is stupid 'cause it only makes seeing stuff more difficuilt - can't imagine humans evolve this if they still rely on vision mostly. |
Ziluria Nar'Cera
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Posted - 2011.01.26 09:57:00 -
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Keeping the eyes open, is part sculpting brows, cheekbones, and eyes; and part making sure they stay open, in the portrait. It's not that bad really; try moving the brows around, and see how it affects the eye shape.
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Val'Dore
Word Bearers of Chaos
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Posted - 2011.01.26 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ziluria Nar'Cera Keeping the eyes open, is part sculpting brows, cheekbones, and eyes; and part making sure they stay open, in the portrait. It's not that bad really; try moving the brows around, and see how it affects the eye shape.
I prefer Squintz to looking like I'm going to evolve into an Asgard.
~No matter what happens, somebody will find a way to take it too seriously.~ |
RevoIution
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Posted - 2011.01.26 12:21:00 -
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Edited by: RevoIution on 26/01/2011 12:22:33 Sorry, but it's not just the horrid case of their eyes being slits; they're ape-like ugly too in bone structure and facial feature choices, no matter how you slice it. With the launch of the highly-touted new character creator, people should not be forced to turn their characters away from the bloody camera just to stomach the whole process, but that's what I'm seeing. That, and butt-ugly Vherokiors.
Some sort of race-change option is in order here, call it what you will (cosmetic surgery, witness protection, whatever). New Eden's characters have implant surgery constantly, and every one is now forced to undergo more cosmetic surgery if they haven't already or shortly they will not even be able to log on in-game anymore. It's not that much of a stretch to offer a race change (which doesn't affect much of anything but looks these days anyway).
I think CCP would then be shocked at the sudden plummet of the Vherokior population in particular; maybe they just don't want to admit how bad it actually is.
If avatars weren't important, they wouldn't be a part of the game in the first place, and the new character creator wouldn't even have been implemented here (okay, aside from the fact that CCP needs a giant beta pool to test World of Darkness' features on, haha).
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MelKrieg
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Posted - 2011.01.26 13:12:00 -
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Edited by: MelKrieg on 26/01/2011 13:12:50
Originally by: RevoIution Edited by: RevoIution on 26/01/2011 12:22:33 Sorry, but it's not just the horrid case of their eyes being slits; they're ape-like ugly too in bone structure and facial feature choices, no matter how you slice it. With the launch of the highly-touted new character creator, people should not be forced to turn their characters away from the bloody camera just to stomach the whole process, but that's what I'm seeing. That, and butt-ugly Vherokiors.
Careful man, vietnam might hear ya.
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Hooman Target
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.27 00:11:00 -
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Edited by: Hooman Target on 27/01/2011 00:11:06 Well, THAT'S why in-breeding is frowned upon. Now get back to work you dirty Matari slaves.....oh, wait...dammit.
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DoctorMolotov
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Posted - 2011.01.27 19:16:00 -
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All the minmatar look like crap. My mains old picture didn't look asian AT ALL! Now I have a half asian ponce that I am trying to dress up so he doens't look like an awkward foreigner trying to fit in. Last I checked minmatar were slaves and escaped the amarr, yet now we look like them suddenly?
FIX FIX FIX!
(also, face tattoos. now.)
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Mika Valentina
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Posted - 2011.04.07 03:56:00 -
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I can't believe this is actually an issue for so many people. So what if the Vherokior have slit eyes? Its not like you cannot model around them. I didn't have to try all that hard to make this toon look attractive, despite what RevoIution suggests about the bone structure. The charecter editor is pretty powerful -- sure there is an overall theme to the various races' looks but there are plenty of ways to make any of the races have an attractive avatar.
I'm actually glad the Vherokior turned out this way, I like the look far better then the Khanid or the Jin-Mei
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Sahnsa
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Posted - 2011.04.07 05:27:00 -
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Originally by: Meissa Anunthiel Edited by: Meissa Anunthiel on 26/01/2011 00:16:13 When I first found out there was no way but to look like I have Down Syndrome, I practically begged for at least the ability for Verokhior to open their eyes, or give us the ability to change bloodline. That didn't work. I asked to break the arms of the person responsible for this so no more atrocities would be commited, to no avail...
I'm not giving up.
I didn't vote for you last election. I wish I had.
Please, I am begging you. Do whatever you can!
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Wercheg
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Posted - 2011.04.07 05:56:00 -
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At first I was peeved that I could not make the face I did before (as with my main, goodbye long intaki hair), but now I am mostly ok with it.
Why the support? I don't like that no approximation of the characters I had before is possible.
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Horizonist
Yulai Guard 2nd Fleet Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2011.04.07 06:36:00 -
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For everyones information: OP is a notorious troll, and has brought up this topic before. Just ignore her and let the thread die. -----------------------------------
Give us Drone Implants! |
Aamrr
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Posted - 2011.04.07 06:48:00 -
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Pretty sure that it doesn't matter who proposed it. A lot of people agree with the idea, and if you don't like it, you don't have to say anything.
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Horizonist
Yulai Guard 2nd Fleet Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2011.04.07 08:31:00 -
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Edited by: Horizonist on 07/04/2011 08:35:17
Originally by: Aamrr Pretty sure that it doesn't matter who proposed it. A lot of people agree with the idea, and if you don't like it, you don't have to say anything.
The point is that it is not proposed in order to contribute anything to the game, but simply to troll. "A lot of people" do not agree with the racial connotation in it at all. -----------------------------------
Give us Drone Implants! |
Raid'En
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Posted - 2011.04.07 09:31:00 -
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would like help for my khanid ---------------- ** Wormhole Trading ** |
Kim Rafa
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Posted - 2011.04.16 09:07:00 -
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As a response to all the naysayers:
With most of the races which have been updated, CCP took care to ensure the appearance of the new characters were similar to the old ones.
For example; Caldari Civire, Minmatar Brutor, Gallente Jin Mei.
Even the Caldari Achura kept their Japanese-esque appearance (although much improved).
My girlfriend created a beautiful Vherokior avatar, one which she loved and she even wrote a little back story to her. (For those interested she was a baby-faced riddick style killer).
Vherokior looked sort of white with a slight oriental hint.
However when she reactivated her account and found her character transformed into what she described as a Vietnamese rice farmer, she was so upset that she deleted the character and started again!
This is not racist, at least not intended as offensive,but with the graphical improvement Vherokior characters did not expect a complete race change.
Now as Asian people go, not every one has tiny slits for eyes (we all know this anyway). Why can we not change the eyes, are all Vherokior females sisters?
Give us at least some bounds for change, I've spent hours trying to make a face which fits the back story but the best I can get is a butch lesbian Michelle Rodriguez lookalike.
A little breathing room is better than none, and personally I see no reason to oppose this call. Aside from the racist trolls, this is a very valid point which should be addressed - Vherokior are the only race which has completely changed its ethnicity overnight with the new character creator.
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