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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2011.01.28 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake If the Republic wants Amarrian assistance
I assure you we will let you know if that happens. Meanwhile. I'd suggest you stay the hell out.
Elsebeth Rhiannon
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Vallek Arkonnis
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Posted - 2011.01.29 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kahar Dex
During me daily meditation, a thought came upon me as quite simply: Who are the greatest threat?
Pride is always the greatest threat.
Pride makes us overestimate ourselves and underestimate the enemy, makes us want more than we could possibly keep, makes us charge headlong into situations when restraint is needed. Pride puts blind revenge ahead of tactful justice, it puts carelessness ahead of prudence.
The Gallente, Minmatar, Sansha, whatever, are predictable foes. Pride makes one reckless and capricious and can spread like fire. The greatest threat lies not outside our borders but within us.
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Carcosa Hali
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2011.01.30 05:32:00 -
[63]
Are you quite certain your God does not belong to us already?
I'm kidding.. I'm kidding..
I suppose the real question is.. what led you to fail the Sansha in days past?
It was the Galletaens... what started the War.. who led you to cower and join them in the slaughter of the True.. It is them to whom you should channel your aggressions... They are the ones that led you low.. They are those who caused you to fall..
Strike against them.. Redeem yourselves. Even one pilot can make a difference, even one of the capsuleers can lead to untold waste among them that destroyed you..
Believe... and you will See. ------------------------------- This Bitter Earth.. What fruit it bears.. |
Jesmine Kyriel
Amarr House Kyriel Inc.
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Posted - 2011.01.30 09:43:00 -
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Originally by: Carcosa Hali Are you quite certain your God does not belong to us already?
I'm kidding.. I'm kidding..
I suppose the real question is.. what led you to fail the Sansha in days past?
It was the Galletaens... what started the War.. who led you to cower and join them in the slaughter of the True.. It is them to whom you should channel your aggressions... They are the ones that led you low.. They are those who caused you to fall..
Strike against them.. Redeem yourselves. Even one pilot can make a difference, even one of the capsuleers can lead to untold waste among them that destroyed you..
Believe... and you will See.
You blaspheme. Not only that, Sansha puppet, but you lie.
The Empire should not 'redeem' themselves to the Sansha by turning on the Federation on your beck and call, far from it. We should lead the charges against you, form the vanguard of every assault. Every sinful act of betrayal to God's holy purpose for our Empire, as done in the past when we SOLD YOU slaves, aspirants to God's glory, should be washed away in a river of blood, the results of our eternal struggle to redeem ourselves in His name. We can do this and we will. When the Empire has done it part and more in assisting in your ultimate defeat and obliteration, then we will have redeemed ourselves. Then, and only then, will we have earned our pardon for our sins.
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2011.01.31 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon
Originally by: Rodj Blake If the Republic wants Amarrian assistance
I assure you we will let you know if that happens. Meanwhile. I'd suggest you stay the hell out.
Elsebeth Rhiannon
QFT.
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Azure Skyclad
Amarr Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.01.31 18:40:00 -
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Both the Empire and Nation want to subjugate us "for our own good" so the only significant difference is in which proper noun to use.
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Silas Vitalia
Khanid Provincial Vanguard Black Inquisition
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Posted - 2011.01.31 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Azure Skyclad Both the Empire and Nation want to subjugate us "for our own good" so the only significant difference is in which proper noun to use.
The Amarr faithful only subjugate those who resist.
But if you are confused as to proper terminology, you should address your Amarrian betters as "Master."
Silas Vitalia CEO Khanid Provincial Vanguard Open for Recruitment!
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Azure Skyclad
Amarr Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.01.31 19:52:00 -
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"The Amarr faithful only subjugate those who resist. "
Oh, that's alright then.................
Profanity filters aren't very accommodating with regard to what i like to refer to my Amarrian "betters" as. Ask Cosmo, he's been on the thick end of a few examples.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.01.31 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Silas Vitalia The Amarr faithful only subjugate those who resist.
Most of us resist because we're perfectly happy with our own societies and cultures and have absolutely no want or need of yours, thank you very much.
If the Amarrians would simply accept that and leave people alone, there would be a lot less bad blood in the universe. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Silas Vitalia
Khanid Provincial Vanguard Black Inquisition
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Posted - 2011.01.31 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
If the Amarrians would simply accept that and leave people alone, there would be a lot less bad blood in the universe.
No.
Silas Vitalia CEO Khanid Provincial Vanguard Open for Recruitment!
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.01.31 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Silas Vitalia No.
Then you sacrifice any justification whatsoever to complain about people meddling with Amarrian affairs - or the scarcity of help afforded to your suffering systems. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Silas Vitalia
Khanid Provincial Vanguard Black Inquisition
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Posted - 2011.01.31 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Originally by: Silas Vitalia No.
Then you sacrifice any justification whatsoever to complain about people meddling with Amarrian affairs - or the scarcity of help afforded to your suffering systems.
I sacrifice nothing by nature of my beliefs, and certainly have no need to justify anything to those beneath me, meaning you and your cacophonous ilk.
I do not complain and seldom debate, for on the most serious of issues of the day none is needed.
Furthermore none of -my- systems are suffering in Khanid. Do not presume to confuse me with the Imperials, who can at times remain unfocused, despite noble intentions.
Your 'society' wears a mask of hypocrisy and suffers from an acute identity disorder. Constantly bleating and neighing about the 'human rights' abuses of other cultures while standing on a mound of corpses made of those weaker cultures who disagree with your version of things....and whining about 'atrocities' committed by others while your very government commits them daily against the State.
I would be angry with you but that would mean you matter enough to me to register an emotion other than mild contempt. Pathetic.
Silas Vitalia CEO Khanid Provincial Vanguard Open for Recruitment!
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Maximum Kiely
Caldari Kiely and Son Salvage
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Posted - 2011.01.31 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Rytha Main
It is only seemingly hypocrisy for the ignorant.
True freedom comes from being in a relationship with the one true God. He sets us on the righteous path and is the sum of all things desired. While some may be quick to say that "slavery is not freedom", I respond by saying "you are right, but only while maintaining a simplistic view of it all".
I would debate with you but I learned long ago that when people give up their mind to some fairytale God, they gain the ability to have an asinine answer for everything.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.01.31 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Silas Vitalia I sacrifice nothing by nature of my beliefs, and certainly have no need to justify anything to those beneath me, meaning you and your cacophonous ilk.
I am not beneath you, you cloudy-eyed little harlot. Don't presume to lecture me - your supercilious arrogance doesn't impress me and your ignorant, archaic beliefs mean as little to me as ash on the wind - which, ideally, is what you will be weeping over when your precious Kingdom turns to dust. Then perhaps you'll understand the pain of the betters you've wronged. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Athroseilon Yeva
Amarr The Ascendant Order
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Posted - 2011.02.01 00:36:00 -
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"Vain are the words of the fallen; empty are their protests. Their hearts are as of the rotten tree, which falls at the first breath of the storm. The Lord has clouded their minds; their thoughts are dulled with rage."
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.02.01 01:13:00 -
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Quoting scriptures does not a valid argument make. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Athroseilon Yeva
Amarr The Ascendant Order
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Posted - 2011.02.01 02:09:00 -
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Scripture is but a darkened mirror of the Truth that is God, yet even so the light from it proves more than sufficient to illuminate the darkest recesses of the human soul. Your mind is clouded by fury, your reason by hate. No logic can assail the fortress of your mind, barred as it is by malice and scorn.
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Rytha Main
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.01 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: Maximum Kiely
Originally by: Rytha Main
It is only seemingly hypocrisy for the ignorant.
True freedom comes from being in a relationship with the one true God. He sets us on the righteous path and is the sum of all things desired. While some may be quick to say that "slavery is not freedom", I respond by saying "you are right, but only while maintaining a simplistic view of it all".
I would debate with you but I learned long ago that when people give up their mind to some fairytale God, they gain the ability to have an asinine answer for everything.
And I have learned long ago, that many men with darkened minds can not be made to understand God and His person through reasoning. It is for this very reason we have slavery, that:
"Only through many hardships Is a man stripped to his very foundations And in such a state Devoid of distractions Is his soul free to soar And in this He is closest to God" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 42:5
How can a man understand the life of rebirth, of renewal, and of God's saving grace if he has no experiential knowledge of it? He can't. No matter how you debate, you will always be at a disadvantage. I have lived two lives, one absent of God (before), and one in communion with Him (now).
I pity you Maximum Kiely, for not only do you blaspheme, but you do so entirely out of ignorance. May God have mercy on your soul, for you know not what you do.
Amarr shall triumph for God is our Hero, and we are His champions! |
Rytha Main
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.01 02:50:00 -
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Edited by: Rytha Main on 01/02/2011 02:53:12
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Originally by: Silas Vitalia I sacrifice nothing by nature of my beliefs, and certainly have no need to justify anything to those beneath me, meaning you and your cacophonous ilk.
I am not beneath you, you cloudy-eyed little harlot. Don't presume to lecture me - your supercilious arrogance doesn't impress me and your ignorant, archaic beliefs mean as little to me as ash on the wind - which, ideally, is what you will be weeping over when your precious Kingdom turns to dust. Then perhaps you'll understand the pain of the betters you've wronged.
How DARE you address Sister Vitalia in such a manner. If you are truly not beneath us, you wouldn't have the gall to sink so low.
Your profile has been input to all my ships computers with a terrible standing. I stand with the faithful. Should our cross paths, you will be shot on sight, and if you're able to be taken, you shall inevitably be transported under escort to Port Sanctuary
You are clearly an enemy of God's people Andreus. Let's hope you do not condemn yourself further by blaspheme.
Originally by: Athroseilon Yeva Scripture is but a darkened mirror of the Truth that is God, yet even so the light from it proves more than sufficient to illuminate the darkest recesses of the human soul. Your mind is clouded by fury, your reason by hate. No logic can assail the fortress of your mind, barred as it is by malice and scorn.
Dear brother, the only hope this heathen has I fear, is to be stripped to his foundations.
"By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32 Amarr shall triumph for God is our Hero, and we are His champions! |
Azure Skyclad
Amarr Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.02.01 09:30:00 -
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Oh dear Andy! The magic sky man is gonna come gitcha!
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.02.01 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: Rytha Main How DARE you address Sister Vitalia in such a manner.
I quite easily dare to insult such a vapid, crazy cat lady... you stuck-up Scripture-thumping child.
Originally by: Rytha Main Your profile has been input to all my ships computers with a terrible standing. I stand with the faithful. Should our cross paths, you will be shot on sight
I invite you to come and try, witch.
Originally by: Rytha Main and if you're able to be taken, you shall inevitably be transported under escort to Port Sanctuary
Don't make such worthless and insipid threats when you know for a fact you'll never be able to back them up. Your ex-CEO Blake has been making the exact same threats to Evanda Char since before I was in any way involved in the Amarr-Minmatar conflict. You may notice that she's still perfectly free.
Originally by: Rytha Main You are clearly an enemy of God's people Andreus. Let's hope you do not condemn yourself further by blaspheme.
Your God is as worthless as your empty threats, and I spit on him.
Originally by: Rytha Main Dear brother, the only hope this heathen has I fear, is to be stripped to his foundations.
Again - witch please, let's see you come and try it.
Originally by: Azure Skyclad Oh dear Andy! The magic sky man is gonna come gitcha!
You know, it's rare enough that I get a chance to laugh with a member of Star Fraction, but, you know, in this circumstance?
I think I like you more than I used to, Azure. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2011.02.01 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Your God is as worthless as your empty threats, and I spit on him.
Careful man...careful. If you think an Amarrian faithful is bad, you should see a Blood Raider faithful.
The Amarr want you to work for them (albeit for free). The Raiders want you inside them, and not even in the way pleasant for you.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.01 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Your ex-CEO Blake has been making the exact same threats to Evanda Char since before I was in any way involved in the Amarr-Minmatar conflict. You may notice that she's still perfectly free.
She will never be free until she stops being a slave to her own base desires. Only through slavery to us will she be able to achieve that.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.02.01 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake She will never be free until she stops being a slave to her own base desires. Only through slavery to us will she be able to achieve that.
I'm sorry, I should have been more specific - "free from any perspective other than that of exceptionally pedantic Amarrian Scripture-thumping mass-murderers". ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Spirulina Laxissima
Minmatar TotalControl Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.02 09:09:00 -
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Sanshas, Gallente, Amarr, Caldari, Minmatar, whatever!
Don't you realize we've all been had?! We are all humans, and we are all being played like so many holoreels!
The real threat to us are the SCC and their lapdogs CONCORD. Whatever happens in New Eden, the SCC gets their cut, under threat of force by CONCORD if necessary. It is in their interest to perpetuate the madness that has befallen our kind. To divide us so that we may wage petty wars against each other.
I see all my fellow humans as brothers & sisters, trapped in a perpetual struggle against the SCC's enslavement through fiat-currency. What are ISK backed by? Debt. And the constant threat of force if you don't abide by their rules.
This great threat to our freedom & sovereignty even lets me overlook (but not forget, and never forgive) the cowardly betrayal of the Nefantar. Yes, I am willing to put my prejudices aside for the benefit of us all. Are you?
Originally by: Mayer Amschel Ardishapur
Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws.
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2011.02.02 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Spirulina Laxissima [...]
I agree that CONCORD and SCC wants to make a quick kredit off of and perpetuate the constant conflict in the cluster. I fail to see how Nation is involved in their plot though; wouldn't the bounties they set on Nation ships (which the SCC pays out without fail) outweigh any profit they'd make off Nation? I mean we're talking billions of ISK here..
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Spirulina Laxissima
Minmatar TotalControl Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.02 15:00:00 -
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Here you might find some answers, but I'm afraid his conspiracy goes far deeper than the proverbial wormhole.
To understand, you would have to learn the original function of currencies, and how that function was subverted over time to suit those that ended up producing those currencies. The original function of government, and how it, in turn, was subverted with those currencies...
Over the millennia, it seems, we unerringly fall for the same lies over & over.
All we can do now is remember what we are, and not let ourselves be divided by strife and hatred. To remember that in the end, it is us who bear the responsibilities for our own selves, and to never give up those responsibilities to another entity. For in doing so we also give up our freedom, and our fate.
I sometimes wish there were such a god as the one the Amarr pray to. Perhaps he could stand by all our sides. But in the end, such practice only leads us to give up our responsibilities. Placing them in the hands of a fictitious creator only allows them to glide into the hands of others willing to use them to their benefit and our demise. (*+.,_,.#¦¦`*+.,_,.#¦¦`*+.,_,.#¦)
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Spirulina Laxissima
Minmatar TotalControl Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.02 16:18:00 -
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Sanshas Nation basically acts to jump-start one of three possible outcomes beneficial to the SCC:
The four main empires have been stuck in a cease-fire agreement since the Yoiul-conference. Perhaps this time of military quagmires is not generating enough 'revenue' for the SCC, the conflict simmering under the facade of peace could erupt spontaneously if, say, a major faction is subverted by the Sansha. Another major faction might take this as a good excuse to escalate the war. This is how my people gained their freedom, but the SCC interestingly always comes out on top.
The external threat of the Sansha serves to unite all factions against them under the leadership of the SCC (or rather a puppet-organization of them). This One Galactic Government protects us all for ever more, but at the grave cost of whatever freedom & sovereignty we have left.
The free people of New Eden fall to the hordes of the Sansha incursion. We are all turned into mindless unquestioning components in Sansha's warmachine. Since Sansha is a pawn of the SCC, this basically serves us to them on a tritanium-alloy platter.
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I see two outcomes beneficial to us:
We realize we're being exploited, and unite against the SCC and the Sansha. We take responsibility of our own lives, and swear never to fall fur such treachery again.
- Business as usual without the SCC
We unite against the Nation, and rid ourselves of the manipulative SCC. We keep our current forms of government, but strive to get along with each other for a better future. Maybe we will save us from ourselves by finally taking responsibility for ourselves one day. (*+.,_,.#¦¦`*+.,_,.#¦¦`*+.,_,.#¦)
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2011.02.02 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: Spirulina Laxissima Since Sansha is a pawn of the SCC[...]
Wait, huh? I understood all your other points, but claiming Master Kuvakei is a SCC puppet makes no sense. I can buy that the SCC wants to use the external threat of Nation as a reason to unify under a CONCORD banner, but to claim Master is intentionally collaborating with the SCC? I can't buy that.
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Spirulina Laxissima
Minmatar TotalControl Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.02 20:54:00 -
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Yeah, I won't claim I know all there is. Mister Kuvakei is clearly following his own agenda. But I'm willing to bet he's been originally outfitted by the SCC after his death. Couldn't have such a convenient threat just die on them. But he probably grew too powerful for them. However, the SCC can spin this to their advantage either way. A galaxy weakened by the Sansha incursions is a galaxy ripe for the picking.
Either way, any end result in favor of the SCC or the Sansha is not what we need right now. (*+.,_,.#¦¦`*+.,_,.#¦¦`*+.,_,.#¦)
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