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ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group
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Posted - 2011.01.27 03:55:00 -
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Is there a discernible difference between 'Hi Sec' 0.4 and 'Low Sec 0.4?
I'm looking more for impressions than numbers.
During the time I've spent in Low Sec I wasn't interested. Now that I'm not there, and the POS rules have changed I'm hoping you can help me out.
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Abacus Primo
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Posted - 2011.01.27 04:26:00 -
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It is my understanding that the lower security the less Concord Police presence. For example I was recently looking at the kill boards of a pilot that has blown up over 2000 ships in .04 space. It appears as if he ganks people in asteroid belts and Concord either can't reach him, isn't out in the belts or he's hiding out the aggression timer. I don't believe you can do that in say .09 etc.
Originally by: ACY GTMI Is there a discernible difference between 'Hi Sec' 0.4 and 'Low Sec 0.4?
I'm looking more for impressions than numbers.
During the time I've spent in Low Sec I wasn't interested. Now that I'm not there, and the POS rules have changed I'm hoping you can help me out.
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Dian'h Might
Minmatar Cash and Cargo Liberators Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.01.27 04:29:00 -
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I'm not really sure what the question is, but:
.4 and lower = no concord .5 and higher = concord
If you're talking about the trusec, in which case lower = slightly higher bounty rats with a slightly higher difficulty level, but afaik that makes no difference in terms of setting up a POS. - - - Dian'h Might - C&Ps resident "internet kleptomaniac" |
Abacus Primo
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Posted - 2011.01.27 04:32:00 -
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Are you sure about that? I saw someone get Concorded in .4
We were shocked.
Originally by: Dian'h Might I'm not really sure what the question is, but:
.4 and lower = no concord .5 and higher = concord
If you're talking about the trusec, in which case lower = slightly higher bounty rats with a slightly higher difficulty level, but afaik that makes no difference in terms of setting up a POS.
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Dian'h Might
Minmatar Cash and Cargo Liberators Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.01.27 04:36:00 -
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Originally by: Abacus Primo Are you sure about that? I saw someone get Concorded in .4
We were shocked.
You were either a) wrong and that wasn't concord you saw b) not in a .4 system
There is no concord in .4 - - - Dian'h Might - C&Ps resident "internet kleptomaniac" |
Abacus Primo
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Posted - 2011.01.27 04:45:00 -
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That's odd as I still have the killmail.
Like I said, we were shocked. Corp mate can baited someone for PvP in Crielere (.4) and was Concorded when he accidentally fired a second too early.
Originally by: Dian'h Might
Originally by: Abacus Primo Are you sure about that? I saw someone get Concorded in .4
We were shocked.
You were either a) wrong and that wasn't concord you saw b) not in a .4 system
There is no concord in .4
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Dian'h Might
Minmatar Cash and Cargo Liberators Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.01.27 05:07:00 -
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Originally by: Abacus Primo That's odd as I still have the killmail.
Like I said, we were shocked. Corp mate can baited someone for PvP in Crielere (.4) and was Concorded when he accidentally fired a second too early.
I couldn't find any losses to concord in a .4 belonging to your corp on battleclinic, but if you were within 150km of a gate or station then the sentry guns got him. Other than the part where they shoot at an unprovoked aggressor, those are a completely different mechanic than concord. - - - Dian'h Might - C&Ps resident "internet kleptomaniac" |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.01.27 06:52:00 -
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Edited by: ShahFluffers on 27/01/2011 06:52:24
Originally by: Abacus Primo That's odd as I still have the killmail.
Like I said, we were shocked. Corp mate can baited someone for PvP in Crielere (.4) and was Concorded when he accidentally fired a second too early.
Originally by: Dian'h Might
Originally by: Abacus Primo Are you sure about that? I saw someone get Concorded in .4
We were shocked.
You were either a) wrong and that wasn't concord you saw b) not in a .4 system
There is no concord in .4
Was the person in question on a gate or station? Was said person also in a frigate/destroyer/gank-cruiser?
I ask because while CONCORD has no presence in low-sec (0.4 to 0.1 space) there are still gate/station guns. And if you have no tank and aggress "illegally" the gate/station guns will make short work of you. _______________________
"Just because I seem like an idiot doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown |
mkmin
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Posted - 2011.01.27 09:57:00 -
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0.5+ research POSes 0.4 POS with capital manufacturing 0.3 and lower moon mining
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Taipan Leviathan
Dark Star Confederation Saints Amongst Sinners
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Posted - 2011.01.27 17:23:00 -
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1.0 to 0,5 is hisec concord will always kill the agressor and gate/station guns will also agress. The higher the number the faster concord responds. In adition the agressor aalso loses security status. (very negative sec status makes you unable to fly trough hisec)
0.4 to 0.1 Gate/Station guns will try to shoot the agressor and the agressor loses sec status.
0.0 Agressor has no penalty whatsoever and there is no mechanic in place to save you or punish the agressor. --------------------------------------------------- THE BIG BANG: First there was nothing, Then it exploded. |
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Whodoneit
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Posted - 2011.01.27 17:29:00 -
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Now that I read this, it reminds me that I have seen some NPC ships hovering around some gates in 0.4 that I recently flew through. Amamake was one of them that come to mind. They were Concorde ships.
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Taedrin
Gallente The Green Cross Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.01.27 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: "Evelopedia"
True Security The EVE client displays system security as a range of values from 0.0 to 1.0 with increments in tenths (i.e. 0.1, 0.2, etc.). In actuality, system security is a value from -1.0 to 1.0, with values being rounded to the nearest tenth and values lower than 0.0 being shown as 0.0 in the client. The rounding up of vales can sometimes lead to some confusion, for example if system true security status is 0.89, structures may be anchored there, even through it system security is displayed as 0.9.
There ARE a few systems out there where their true sec status is rounded in such a way that makes their effective sec status confusing.
For example: I believe the system Crielere was mentioned?
Crielere's true sec status is .398 which is < .4 However, the displayed sec status is rounded up to .4 So Crielere is a .4 system which is actually a .3 system (if the evelopedia article is correct). I have heard that there are a few systems in the game which are displayed as being 0.0, but are really low sec. I have never heard about a system being displayed as low sec, but really being high sec, though. If this was the case, I think that this would be common knowledge by now. ----------
Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group
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Posted - 2011.01.28 11:11:00 -
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Sorry. Poorly formed question.
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foksieloy
Minmatar Universal Army
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Posted - 2011.01.28 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: ACY GTMI "Is there a noticeable difference between a 0.351 system and a 0.449 system in terms of rats, both NPC and player?"
There are no player rats.
NPC ships (rats) have slightly higher ISK bounties and are slightly stronger in 0.351 system than they are in a 0.449 system. _______________________ Drink Eau du Nichup«, the taste of heaven. Now available as Nichup Citrus« as well! |
My Postman
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Posted - 2011.01.28 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: My Postman on 28/01/2011 13:09:45
Originally by: foksieloy
Originally by: ACY GTMI "Is there a noticeable difference between a 0.351 system and a 0.449 system in terms of rats, both NPC and player?"
There are no player rats.
NPC ships (rats) have slightly higher ISK bounties and are slightly stronger in 0.351 system than they are in a 0.449 system.
Bolded part is plain wrong.
Edit: Sorry, i should¦nt do that in the newbie forum, but i could¦nt resist.
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Temuken Radzu
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Posted - 2011.01.28 17:10:00 -
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Edited by: Temuken Radzu on 28/01/2011 17:10:32 Well i did see once in a 0.4 region a lot of concord guarding a jump gate...
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Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2011.01.28 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: My Postman Edited by: My Postman on 28/01/2011 13:09:45
Originally by: foksieloy
Originally by: ACY GTMI "Is there a noticeable difference between a 0.351 system and a 0.449 system in terms of rats, both NPC and player?"
There are no player rats.
NPC ships (rats) have slightly higher ISK bounties and are slightly stronger in 0.351 system than they are in a 0.449 system.
Bolded part is plain wrong.
Edit: Sorry, i should¦nt do that in the newbie forum, but i could¦nt resist.
?? the original point is quite correct. "Rat" is the de-facto standard for any of the NPC reds (be it one of the NPC pirate corps [serps, sansha, angels, etc] or enemy faction ships in a mission).
I've never seen players referred to as "rats"; "pirates", "gankers", "griefers", (any number of <censored> things), etc. but never "rats".
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Alexander Third
Gallente STARMINE inc
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Posted - 2011.01.29 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: Alexander Third on 29/01/2011 13:38:02
Originally by: My Postman Edited by: My Postman on 28/01/2011 13:09:45
Originally by: foksieloy
Originally by: ACY GTMI "Is there a noticeable difference between a 0.351 system and a 0.449 system in terms of rats, both NPC and player?"
There are no player rats.
NPC ships (rats) have slightly higher ISK bounties and are slightly stronger in 0.351 system than they are in a 0.449 system.
Bolded part is plain wrong.
Edit: Sorry, i should¦nt do that in the newbie forum, but i could¦nt resist.
I believe he means people who steal/tell secrets of the corp
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My Postman
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Posted - 2011.01.31 12:19:00 -
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Above two posters are right, kinda.
What in my native tongue is a "rat", in proper english you might call a "weasel".
My bad.
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Riedle
Minmatar Paradox Collective Black Legion.
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Posted - 2011.01.31 14:27:00 -
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ummm
0.1?
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Groln Glastium
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Posted - 2011.01.31 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: Groln Glastium on 31/01/2011 16:38:58 There's no 'Hi Sec' 0.4. If the security level of a system is rounded into 0.5 or above, it's a 'Hi Sec' system. Otherwise it's gonna be 'Low Sec' or 0.0. Actually the security level of every system follows the format of 0.xxxxxxxxx, but the actual rule applied depends on the rounded rating, i.e. the one displayed on your HUD.
Plus, if you're observant enough, you'll find those 0.0 systems are mostly of negative security level.
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Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2011.01.31 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: My Postman Above two posters are right, kinda.
What in my native tongue is a "rat", in proper english you might call a "weasel".
My bad.
we have the same thing in english ("snitch", "rat", "weasel", etc) -- thinking too much in the context of the game
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Vorekk
Gallente LowBall Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.02 03:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dian'h Might I couldn't find any losses to concord in a .4 belonging to your corp on battleclinic
NPC kills are not posted by Battleclinic. --- Join Lowball Heavy Industries. Small, focused fleets - lots of high intensity action, the EVE way. |
Spirulina Laxissima
Minmatar TotalControl Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.02 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Velicitia I've never seen players referred to as "rats"; "pirates", "gankers", "griefers", (any number of <censored> things), etc. but never "rats".
What about Pie-Rats? (*+.,_,.#¦¦`*+.,_,.#¦¦`*+.,_,.#¦)
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