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Xenuria
Gallente Dziga royal industries Astronautic Enterprises of Tomorrow
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Posted - 2011.01.27 15:17:00 -
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I just checked EFT and apparently if I train my armor resist skills up from 3 to 5 I won't actually Gain any extra armor when I use my hardeners...
Am I missing something or is this a huge bug?
I took the fit straight from eve and even uploaded my current skills to EFT only to find that raising to level of all skills to 5 actually reduces the amount of armor resist when the hardeners are active.
What gives?
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Pod Amarr
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Posted - 2011.01.27 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria I just checked EFT and apparently if I train my armor resist skills up from 3 to 5 I won't actually Gain any extra armor when I use my hardeners...
Am I missing something or is this a huge bug?
I took the fit straight from eve and even uploaded my current skills to EFT only to find that raising to level of all skills to 5 actually reduces the amount of armor resist when the hardeners are active.
What gives?
Read the skill description carefully :D Pod |
Cathy Drall
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2011.01.27 15:50:00 -
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Hint: passive hardeners ... try fit an EANM?
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Xenuria
Gallente Dziga royal industries Astronautic Enterprises of Tomorrow
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Posted - 2011.01.27 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Cathy Drall Hint: passive hardeners ... try fit an EANM?
Energized adaptive nano membranes do not give me as much resist as hardeners do.
When I flick on all my hardeners I actually have a chance in hell at doing a level 4 mission in my domi. If I just fitted nothing but passives I would not have nearly enough resists to tank the clusterbomb of rats.
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Lady Shaniqua
Minmatar Kenssy Fried Chicken Kru
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Posted - 2011.01.27 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria
Originally by: Cathy Drall Hint: passive hardeners ... try fit an EANM?
Energized adaptive nano membranes do not give me as much resist as hardeners do.
When I flick on all my hardeners I actually have a chance in hell at doing a level 4 mission in my domi. If I just fitted nothing but passives I would not have nearly enough resists to tank the clusterbomb of rats.
Although you are right that hardners give better resists for l4's, it doesn't change the fact that the armour comp skills improve EANMs
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Xenuria
Gallente Dziga royal industries Astronautic Enterprises of Tomorrow
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Posted - 2011.01.27 16:16:00 -
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Yes but that improvement is still not going to make using EANM give overall more resist then hardeners. If I train my skills all the way to 5 I will still get better resist if I use hardeners then if I use 3-4 adaptives.
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Eura Sukor
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Posted - 2011.01.27 16:22:00 -
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Because running level 4 missions is the only thing in Eve, therefore EANMs are useless, thus making the resist skills useless. Right?
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Lady Shaniqua
Minmatar Kenssy Fried Chicken Kru
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Posted - 2011.01.27 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria Yes but that improvement is still not going to make using EANM give overall more resist then hardeners. If I train my skills all the way to 5 I will still get better resist if I use hardeners then if I use 3-4 adaptives.
Hardeners are better for missions yes. HOWEVER As I stated already It doesn't change the fact that the armour comp skills improve EANMs
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Estel Arador
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Posted - 2011.01.27 17:07:00 -
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Remember Xenuria is the resident troll.
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Xenuria
Gallente Dziga royal industries Astronautic Enterprises of Tomorrow
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Posted - 2011.01.27 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Shaniqua
Originally by: Xenuria Yes but that improvement is still not going to make using EANM give overall more resist then hardeners. If I train my skills all the way to 5 I will still get better resist if I use hardeners then if I use 3-4 adaptives.
Hardeners are better for missions yes. HOWEVER As I stated already It doesn't change the fact that the armour comp skills improve EANMs
ok what you say may be fact but it dose not answer the original question.
Why does training skills up make no effect on hardeners?
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RaTTuS
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2011.01.27 17:27:00 -
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because they are active ones try faction passive ones --
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Boltorano
Fourth Circle Total Comfort
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Posted - 2011.01.27 18:52:00 -
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Guys, feeding the troll, in this topic.
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Xenuria
Gallente Dziga royal industries Astronautic Enterprises of Tomorrow
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Posted - 2011.01.27 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: RaTTuS because they are active ones try faction passive ones
then my overall resist will go DOWN...
I need my resist to go UP!
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Party Grinder
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Posted - 2011.01.27 19:17:00 -
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Was like "wow that guy is really ******ed". Then I saw it was Xenuria and it felt normal :/
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Jennifer Starling
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.01.27 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria ok what you say may be fact but it dose not answer the original question.
Why does training skills up make no effect on hardeners?
Because CCP decided so .. we can't help it!
Btw using high end passive hardeners with the compensation skills comes quite close to what active hardeners get, be it for less cap. And passive faction/deadspace hardeners are dead cheap. Very handy in WHs, cap drain missions.
You'll just have to accept that you can't get more (resists) for less (cap).
PS your original avatar suited you better! ;)
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trjcquee
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Posted - 2011.01.27 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria ok what you say may be fact but it dose not answer the original question.
Why does training skills up make no effect on hardeners?
I'll try and make this simple for you. Those skills were not meant to improve armor hardeners (actually they do, but not by much). There are no skills that will significantly boost the performance or resists of armor hardeners. |
Sazkyen
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Posted - 2011.01.27 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria I just checked EFT and apparently if I train my armor resist skills up from 3 to 5 I won't actually Gain any extra armor when I use my hardeners...
Am I missing something or is this a huge bug?
I took the fit straight from eve and even uploaded my current skills to EFT only to find that raising to level of all skills to 5 actually reduces the amount of armor resist when the hardeners are active.
What gives?
So don't train it. Move along.
Optionally, you could also make a fool of yourself on the forum.
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Estel Arador
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Posted - 2011.01.27 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: Sazkyen Optionally, you could also make a fool of yourself on the forum.
I'm afraid the joke is on you - see posts 9, 12, and 14.
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Misanthra
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Posted - 2011.01.28 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador
Originally by: Sazkyen Optionally, you could also make a fool of yourself on the forum.
I'm afraid the joke is on you - see posts 9, 12, and 14.
most impressive troll too, got bites after saying he has problems tanking a lv 4 in a domi. Something it does quite well even afk'd. Only other ship equal and arguably better is rattlesnake. 9/10...no deliberately fail fit posted loses a point lol.
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Jenny Cameron
Caldari Ordo Eventus
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Posted - 2011.01.28 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Misanthra
Originally by: Estel Arador
Originally by: Sazkyen Optionally, you could also make a fool of yourself on the forum.
I'm afraid the joke is on you - see posts 9, 12, and 14.
most impressive troll too, got bites after saying he has problems tanking a lv 4 in a domi. Something it does quite well even afk'd. Only other ship equal and arguably better is rattlesnake. 9/10...no deliberately fail fit posted loses a point lol.
Xenuria isn't a troll I think, he/she just has a .. perculiar .. way of bringing things. ________________* - If you're in favour of a bloodline change please vote in the Assembly Hall in this thread - |
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captain skinback
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Posted - 2011.01.28 12:23:00 -
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the shield compensation skills affects shield hardeners when they are not activated. i thought the armor compensation skills did the same?
shield compensation is a useful skill to have if you get nueted and your running a passive tank with shield power relays
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Jovan Geldon
Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2011.01.28 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Cameron Xenuria isn't a troll
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I literally have no words to reply to this with.
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators Hell's Hide-Out
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Posted - 2011.01.28 20:05:00 -
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To active armor hardeners: 3% bonus per skill level to Armor Explosive resistance when the modules are not active
Turn your hardeners off and your resistants going up wot?
SKUNK (o)
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Loerich
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Posted - 2011.01.28 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Jovan Geldon
Originally by: Jenny Cameron Xenuria isn't a troll
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I literally have no words to reply to this with.
Your post with words in it says otherwise.
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.01.28 21:27:00 -
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Ahh this is one of those 'Look at me I'm so clever, because I'm getting everyone to act and reply in a certain way' type threads.
I must say, I'm very impressed. You're control of the masses, is extraordinary. I bet you went to university and everything.
Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive. |
Karl Reese
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.29 01:34:00 -
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Should I train for a basilisk or a guardian?
PS Xenuria is dumb lololololololololol
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I likegirls
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.29 06:55:00 -
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Guardian.
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Jennifer Starling
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.01.29 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: Karl Reese Should I train for a basilisk or a guardian?
Scimitar.
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Xenuria
Gallente Dziga royal industries Astronautic Enterprises of Tomorrow
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Posted - 2011.01.30 00:23:00 -
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I actually do have issues tanking level 4s with my Domi. I fit the hardeners that corespond to the damage types being dealt and I fit 2 large armor repair units. I also have a full set of slave implants and hardwired to enhance my repair amount and speed.
However the problem still remains I can not consistently tank level 4s. I have trained everything that could possibly give me a better chance but it is not use. So now I am going to train my drone skills some more and maybe train my gallente battleship up to level 5.
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Janeway84
Gallente Def Squadron
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Posted - 2011.01.30 15:51:00 -
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Edited by: Janeway84 on 30/01/2011 15:52:00 train T2 armor repair, lvl 4 armor compensation skills and all drone skills to lvl 4 and battleships at lvl 3 or 4 works fine for me solo lvl in megathron and domi fit 1 of each of hardeners and then 1 x T2 eanm and 1x armor repper.
the compensation skill improves EANM's and platings and Damage control 2 unit :)
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