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Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
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Posted - 2011.02.01 06:08:00 -
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Originally by: Dethmourne Silvermane Click on "Settings" under the eve forums category in the sidebar - one option is to include/remove race/corp/alliance from your posts.
Thank you! I learned something new today.
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Nouva MacGyver
Caldari MacGyver Communications
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Posted - 2011.02.01 06:25:00 -
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Originally by: Edwin Rothbard
I didn't need the money. I'm new to the MD forum and my post was intended as a way for me to introduce myself to the community and to build reputation.
Originally by: Edwin Rothbard reputation-building exercise.
Don't do it for these reasons. Put out a well constructed business plan that justifies borrowing money and makes practical sense (e.g. with X loan you calculate that you will increase productivity/trade by ~Y). You supply the information, and interested investors will engage you in additional Q&A or do their own legwork and make up their own minds whether to invest.
I am one such investor, and personally from me to you it's not about how much or how little you're asking, and building a "MD rep" for the sake of building a rep puts me off. Best of luck in your future endeavours!
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Kalrand
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.01 08:50:00 -
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Originally by: Edwin Rothbard
Originally by: Liberty Eternal
This would raise billions quite quickly and securely rather than just 100 mil.
I didn't need the money. I'm new to the MD forum and my post was intended as a way for me to introduce myself to the community and to build reputation.
That's not the right thing to say when you're new.
Originally by: Edwin Rothbard
Anyways, Hello!
Edwin
That is.
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Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
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Posted - 2011.02.03 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Gatan Hahran 100m -10.0%
Gatan is the winner.
100m isk received.
We'll see you on the 17th!
thanks,
Edwin
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Gatan Hahran
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Posted - 2011.02.03 00:27:00 -
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yay, first auction i won in EVE!
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Torain
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Posted - 2011.02.03 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: Edwin Rothbard
Originally by: Gatan Hahran 100m -10.0%
Gatan is the winner.
100m isk received.
We'll see you on the 17th!
thanks,
Edwin
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this winning bid is a negative percentage amount, right? What's going to happen on the 17th? He pays you 10m to return his 100m? |
Gatan Hahran
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Posted - 2011.02.03 00:46:00 -
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Hello Torain
The debtor (Edwin Rothbard) pays Loan Amount + Interest
The total amount is 100+(-10)
Greetings Gatan
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Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
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Posted - 2011.02.03 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Torain Correct me if I'm wrong, but this winning bid is a negative percentage amount, right? What's going to happen on the 17th? He pays you 10m to return his 100m?
He'll get 90m back. The good news for me as I could lose money on my business expansion and aquisitions and still do ok. It should go much better though.
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Irina Bubulyna
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.02.08 17:08:00 -
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Edited by: Irina Bubulyna on 08/02/2011 17:08:37 are u guys drunk or something?!?!? how can u loan 100mil and get back 90mil...or was it for the lolz?!?!?!?!
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.02.08 17:33:00 -
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Its a publicity stunt, not a loan.
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Berikath
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Posted - 2011.02.08 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Edwin Rothbard I didn't need the money. I'm new to the MD forum and my post was intended as a way for me to introduce myself to the community and to build reputation.
As has been said, this is not a good way to introduce yourself to MD as anything other than a future scammer. Just generally posting comments in threads will build more trust than a sham 100m loan, and at least I would be LESS likely, given the exact same business plan, to loan you significant amounts of ISK.
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Edwin Rothbard
Interstellar Arbitrage
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Posted - 2011.02.08 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Irina Bubulyna Edited by: Irina Bubulyna on 08/02/2011 17:08:37 are u guys drunk or something?!?!? how can u loan 100mil and get back 90mil...or was it for the lolz?!?!?!?!
I was confused by his willingness to take a negative rate of return as well. I asked him about this in game. IIRC he replied that he wanted to be the guy to lend isk to a rich person. Fair enough.
Originally by: Tutskii Its a publicity stunt, not a loan.
It's both actually. One of my goals was to introduce myself to the MD community. People are reading and replying to the thread so it's working. It's also a loan. Gatan sent the isk to me in game just minutes after he won the auction. I raised the betting limits at the casino after receiving his loan. He'll get his money back plus interest on the 17th.
Originally by: Berikath blah blah blah...future scammer
Not everyone is a scammer in the making. I don't scam people because I believe it's wrong. I don't care what the authorities say. It amazes me how many people scam in Eve simply because those in charge say it's ok. Most people seem to look to government (or concord/ccp) to decide whether their actions are appropriate. That is scary.
I see time and again people say "I wouldn't scam because it's not enough money." That's a huge red flag to me as they could have equally said "I'm going to scam as soon as it's enough money." Sociopaths are pretty easy to spot imo.
I take the Martin Luther King Jr. approach. I ask myself whether something 'squares' with the moral code. To me scamming is morally repugnant, and that's why I wouldn't do it. I treat others as I wish to be treated. I would not want to be scammed by someone thus I won't scam others.
Edwin www.rothbards.com
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Gatan Hahran
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Posted - 2011.02.09 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: Irina Bubulyna Edited by: Irina Bubulyna on 08/02/2011 17:08:37 are u guys drunk or something?!?!?
Im off the Quafe Ultra Edition for 9 years now! Why are people still rubbing salt into wound for a few drinking mistakes i made that long time ago in the Tash-Murkon Prime Club. Im doing serious business here.
Uhm.. you dont happen to have a bottle of Quafe Ultra, do you?
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Berikath
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Posted - 2011.02.09 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Edwin Rothbard
Originally by: Berikath blah blah blah...future scammer
Not everyone is a scammer in the making. I don't scam people because I believe it's wrong. I don't care what the authorities say. It amazes me how many people scam in Eve simply because those in charge say it's ok. Most people seem to look to government (or concord/ccp) to decide whether their actions are appropriate. That is scary.
I see time and again people say "I wouldn't scam because it's not enough money." That's a huge red flag to me as they could have equally said "I'm going to scam as soon as it's enough money." Sociopaths are pretty easy to spot imo.
I take the Martin Luther King Jr. approach. I ask myself whether something 'squares' with the moral code. To me scamming is morally repugnant, and that's why I wouldn't do it. I treat others as I wish to be treated. I would not want to be scammed by someone thus I won't scam others.
Edwin www.rothbards.com
... I wasn't saying you were a scammer, or that you were going to scam. What I said was:
"this is not a good way to introduce yourself to MD as anything other than a future scammer."
To make it more clear: Introducing yourself in this way makes you LOOK like a future scammer. If your goal is to look like a respectable member of the community, the best way to do it is to ACT like a respectable member of the community and not do blatantly obvious rep-grinding publicity stunts.
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Gatan Hahran
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Posted - 2011.02.17 00:04:00 -
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Posting to confirm that Edwin Rothbard paid the loan+interest back. Also got a nice gift on top of it!
Caldari&Amarr POScorp Standing Service - only 90m isk |
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