Pages: [1] :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Benjamin Shepherd
Caldari Intaki Liberation Front
|
Posted - 2011.02.01 02:16:00 -
[1]
New Eden Assembly A Message from Benjamin Shepherd, Founder of the NEA
Capsuleers,
Two weeks ago, I put together a proposition that would be voted on in the Assembly Council. This proposition was the work of multiple individuals, with assistance from some of the brightest minds in the cluster. The "YC113 Proposition" vote concluded today, and the outcome is to support the changes. Some controversy arose over this by some, fearing it would make the New Eden Assembly a biased, authoritarian forum. This is not the case; the upcoming New Eden Congress is shared by namesake only. I plan on putting forth addition revisions to the representatives in order to further differentiate this new change from the NEA everyone is aware of. That entity will remain neutral, open, and moderated only by individual, interested capsuleers.
What does this mean for corporations and alliances? Well, if you haven't yet read the Proposition or Constitution, do so now, and if a group has interest and agrees to the terms...
Corporations and alliances may now apply for representation. Speak with me personally for more information.
The Congress will officially commence in one week, on February 8th, YC113. Until then, I will hold meetings with various capsuleers on the finer aspects of these changes. Every step will be taken to ensure that a unified, cooperative capsuleer body will work and succeed.
Thank you, Benjamin Shepherd
|
Graelyn
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
|
Posted - 2011.02.01 07:02:00 -
[2]
Edited by: Graelyn on 01/02/2011 07:07:20
From the Chairman of the NEA:
Good evening.
As arbiter of many of the guidelines present in the NEA charter, this vote passage has the following effects:
Foremost, all official positions within the Council are hereby vacated, including the Presidency (Sepheryn Inhonores) and the Chairmanship (myself). New positions are to be filled via elections forthwith.
Let the record show that I intend to be apart of this new version of the NEA, and have supported these changes despite knowing that it's passing would prompt my immediate dismissal from the post of Chairman.
Secondly, the Council as it existed is formally dissolved, with a new ruling body to be created. I encourage many of the civilized factions of New Eden to send a representative to take part in this august assembly.
Thank you.
----------------
Minister of Communications - xDIAx Chairman - New Eden Assembly
|
Boma Airaken
White Song Celestial Imperative
|
Posted - 2011.02.01 17:21:00 -
[3]
Good news. I for one welcome the fact that the assembly is evolving as a dynamic entity. Stagnation is a bad thing.
Congratulations.
|
Benjamin Shepherd
Caldari Intaki Liberation Front
|
Posted - 2011.02.02 18:35:00 -
[4]
Mr. Airaken, a correction: It is not the Assembly that is growing, it is a breakaway from the Assembly as a separate entity.
|
Boma Airaken
White Song Celestial Imperative
|
Posted - 2011.02.02 20:39:00 -
[5]
Originally by: Benjamin Shepherd Mr. Airaken, a correction: It is not the Assembly that is growing, it is a breakaway from the Assembly as a separate entity.
A correction that is not entirely necessary. More like a clarification for those who need it. Just as a parent gives birth to a child, the assembly gave birth to this congress. While they stand alone, they can never be truly separate. Hence the dynamic entity.
While the assembly and the congress have two entirely different roles, they will always be related in this regard. While I wholeheartedly support both the assembly and congress, I believe that claiming they are totally unrelated is deceptive.
|
Codo Yagari
Yulai Guard 1st Fleet Yulai Federation
|
Posted - 2011.02.04 11:40:00 -
[6]
Greetings.
A curious question. What is the NEA's stance on conducting an NBSI and pirate-like policy? Will entities such as these that harbinger hostile intent towards the neutral capsuleer of New Eden be permitted membership?
Grateful for further info.
regards
Codo Yagari Yulai Federation Executor NRDS Coalition Ambassador ___________________
Yulai Guard Forum |
Benjamin Shepherd
Caldari Intaki Liberation Front
|
Posted - 2011.02.04 12:04:00 -
[7]
Edited by: Benjamin Shepherd on 04/02/2011 12:04:29 Mr. Yagari,
The procedures and potential risks that may occur whilst the Congress is operating are being worked on with several capsuleers, both affiliated and non-affiliated with the group. Due to the importance of every detail, it will not commence until February 15th. Check this thread and our main IGS thread for updates.
|
Kimochi Rendar
Veto.
|
Posted - 2011.02.04 13:19:00 -
[8]
I thought you'd dropped this proposal... So you're going to go ahead with it anyway?
The Thoughts of an Outlaw |
Benjamin Shepherd
Caldari Intaki Liberation Front
|
Posted - 2011.02.04 13:56:00 -
[9]
Originally by: Kimochi Rendar I thought you'd dropped this proposal... So you're going to go ahead with it anyway?
Chairman Graelyn reiterated that any vote proposed to the Council must conclude, without interference. And since the vote passed, the transition period is beginning.
|
Silas Vitalia
Khanid Provincial Vanguard Black Inquisition
|
Posted - 2011.02.04 16:41:00 -
[10]
Originally by: Codo Yagari Greetings. What is the NEA's stance on conducting an NBSI and pirate-like policy? Will entities such as these that harbinger hostile intent towards the neutral capsuleer of New Eden be permitted membership
"Pirate-like" policy is completely subjective, and also quite irrelevant to the NEA. All members are welcome, especially those with hostile intent. That is entirely the point. If we all had our own viewpoints pushed on the other members while in the assembly then it wouldn't be much of a pan-galactic meeting spot now would it? I'd say roughly half of the assembly is generally KOS to the other half at any given time of the day.
Silas Vitalia CEO Khanid Provincial Vanguard Open for Recruitment!
|
|
Lyn Farel
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
|
Posted - 2011.02.04 16:47:00 -
[11]
Ms Rhiannon of Electus Matari raised a good point, and I wonder the same :
- With the congress in place, it is described as to act in agreements between entities. If say, 2 entities are willing to sign an agreement, does that mean the whole congress have to vote on this agreement ? Which makes no sense. What will exactly do the congress concerning agreements ?
My own question would be more about :
- If an agreement/treaty has to be proposed to all the congress/NEA members (say for example a NAP agreement in specific circumstances), does that mean everyone can sign it or not ? Or does that mean everyone has to sign it once it passed the vote, and if a member does not sign, he can be kicked out of the congress ? In the first case, if we start to have several agreements, each signed by several entities but not all, it will quickly get very messy and hard to keep track on. In the second case, kicking members that did not sign in the first place such a global treaty sounds a little... rude/extreme.
How would that work exactly ? |
Benjamin Shepherd
Caldari Intaki Liberation Front
|
Posted - 2011.02.04 22:34:00 -
[12]
Edited by: Benjamin Shepherd on 04/02/2011 22:34:34 There will be two types of agreements: Member-specific agreements, where at least two corporations or alliances agree to a mutually agreed document, and Congressional agreements, when a proposal is agreed upon by 2/3rds of the Congress. This is the reason why diversity and differing opinions is key; member parties should not expect to have agreement on everything presented.
As I have stated, everything is being refined and worked on in order to present a stable entity on the 15th.
|
Jyotmimana Karana
Intaki Pure
|
Posted - 2011.02.05 15:16:00 -
[13]
So how does one go about getting a seat on this congress? Or are all the only representatives of the Intaki bloc going to come from your allies in the ILF?
|
Codo Yagari
Yulai Guard 1st Fleet Yulai Federation
|
Posted - 2011.02.07 15:37:00 -
[14]
Originally by: Silas Vitalia
Originally by: Codo Yagari Greetings. What is the NEA's stance on conducting an NBSI and pirate-like policy? Will entities such as these that harbinger hostile intent towards the neutral capsuleer of New Eden be permitted membership
"Pirate-like" policy is completely subjective, and also quite irrelevant to the NEA. All members are welcome, especially those with hostile intent. That is entirely the point. If we all had our own viewpoints pushed on the other members while in the assembly then it wouldn't be much of a pan-galactic meeting spot now would it? I'd say roughly half of the assembly is generally KOS to the other half at any given time of the day.
Pirate like policy is completely subjective? Now that's a new one.
All members are welcome, especially those with hostile intent? What does that mean. Is this a general convention for people who wish to induce harm upon others?
I thougt that the purpose of this convent was to increase cooperation and make New Eden a better place. Surely you must understand that this will not work if you have no interest in ceasing hostile intentions? |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
|
Posted - 2011.02.07 16:52:00 -
[15]
What do you see as the main concrete benefits (aside from a vague "opportunities for co-operation, trade, etc", please) for an organization that joins this effort?
-- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today. |
Silas Vitalia
Khanid Provincial Vanguard
|
Posted - 2011.02.07 17:31:00 -
[16]
Originally by: Codo Yagari
Pirate like policy is completely subjective? Now that's a new one.
No.
Originally by: Codo Yagari
All members are welcome, especially those with hostile intent? What does that mean. Is this a general convention for people who wish to induce harm upon others?
The assembly has been successful thus far because it has been strictly neutral to all members, even those who "wish to induce harm." It provides opportunity for debate and communication between friends and rivals alike, with no distinctions. That means even pathetic peaceniks like yourself are welcome to be members and be civil within it's halls.
Originally by: Codo Yagari
I thougt that the purpose of this convent was to increase cooperation and make New Eden a better place. Surely you must understand that this will not work if you have no interest in ceasing hostile intentions?
There are a million different viewpoints as to what would constitute "making New Eden a better place." Inside the assembly we make attempts to be civil regarding these differences. Out here, however, your prattling only elicits derision.
Silas Vitalia CEO Khanid Provincial Vanguard Open for Recruitment!
|
Codo Yagari
Yulai Guard 1st Fleet Yulai Federation
|
Posted - 2011.02.08 11:00:00 -
[17]
Originally by: Silas Vitalia
Originally by: Codo Yagari
Pirate like policy is completely subjective? Now that's a new one.
No.
It is to me.
Originally by: Silas Vitalia The assembly has been successful thus far because it has been strictly neutral to all members, even those who "wish to induce harm." It provides opportunity for debate and communication between friends and rivals alike, with no distinctions. That means even pathetic peaceniks like yourself are welcome to be members and be civil within it's halls.
Curious: Since I am a "pathetic peacenik", am I to understand you yourself have no interest in peace whatsoever?
Originally by: Silas Vitalia There are a million different viewpoints as to what would constitute "making New Eden a better place."
Maybe. But the ceasing of the murdering of the innocent, conducted by pirates and NBSI groups surely must be one of them?
Originally by: Silas Vitalia Inside the assembly we make attempts to be civil regarding these differences. Out here, however, your prattling only elicits derision.
Well, despite your apparent aversive stance and insults, I am going to make attempts to remain civil even if I am not inside the assembly.
You seem to have a strong aversion towards peace? Or is your obvious disdain of a more focused nature directed towards me personally? ___________________
Yulai Guard Forum |
Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
|
Posted - 2011.02.08 11:06:00 -
[18]
Edited by: Rodj Blake on 08/02/2011 11:05:51 I broadly agree with Codo here.
PIE won't be getting involved in this precisely because we refuse to enter into dialogue with criminals.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
|
John Revenent
Caldari Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
|
Posted - 2011.02.08 11:19:00 -
[19]
It is your choice if you wish to involve yourself with the NEA as a whole, but it will always act as a neutral area for peaceful, organized, and progressive debates.
From a personal perspective you will be missing out on some rather informative gatherings, and possible trade partners.. after all, information and who you know is worth its fair share in New Eden.
|
Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
|
Posted - 2011.02.08 14:01:00 -
[20]
Originally by: John Revenent It is your choice if you wish to involve yourself with the NEA as a whole, but it will always act as a neutral area for peaceful, organized, and progressive debates.
From a personal perspective you will be missing out on some rather informative gatherings, and possible trade partners.. after all, information and who you know is worth its fair share in New Eden.
If I want to discuss things or reach agreement with reputable people, I don't need third party involvement to facilitate it.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
|
|
Milo Caman
Gallente Anshar Incorporated
|
Posted - 2011.02.08 14:47:00 -
[21]
Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon What do you see as the main concrete benefits (aside from a vague "opportunities for co-operation, trade, etc", please) for an organization that joins this effort?
I too, would like to see an answer to this question. For the record, being allowed to kiss the feet the ILF and their Ishukone allies does not count. ---
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1] :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |