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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2011.02.25 22:36:00 -
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for me to fly: curse - because it dies that day, everytime, often without any kills haulers - because i just hate non combat ships
to fight: drake - its extremly boring in every way dramiels - PITA, too many escape with low armor/hull which angers me T3s - either 'cheap' fit bait or pimped and tough as a nut, or cloaky and cowards.
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Gibbo5771
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Posted - 2011.02.26 13:06:00 -
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dramiel, for the fact every idiot that flies it thinks hes invicible
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Christine Peeveepeeski
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Posted - 2011.02.27 12:08:00 -
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The Dramiel, hands down hate it. Why? No soul, yeah its good at what it does and it should be rightly feared but I feel like a cookie cutter pilot as soon as I get in it.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.02.27 16:16:00 -
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All those t1 ships that are still beat down by the tier system. Dramiel, for taking the fun out of frig fights. |
Turin Agalder
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Posted - 2011.02.27 21:57:00 -
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Even though im stuck with it for a while, the drake. I feel like im following the crowd whenever i use it even though I used to use it back when I was a noob before the whole 'Drake hype'. That was back when everyone thought the drake was bad for some reason and said it needed a buff.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.02.28 12:01:00 -
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There's a lot of strange thoughts being posted here, most of which seem to apply to the individual pilots than the ships in general. - Burst: Its stats are extremely bad, but I did actually manage to solo an arty Thrasher in one once. The surprise factor in so many ships leads to many, many pilots overestimating themselves and losing the fight. - Bellicose: It's painter range helps a lot in Alpha gangs and it can be fit to be a fairly good frigate killer. Put 4 ec-600s in the drone bay and a good pilot could kill a few cruisers as well. - Scythe Fleet Issue: Like the Caracal, not much good against cruisers, but nasty against frigates. Fast enough to keep away from most non-Minnie cruiser hulls as well. - The ENI: Can't honestly see any value in this ship over a Rupture apart from better cap and speed which becomes a bit redundant if the Rupture has neuts or HMLs. It's price, like most tier 1 navy ships, is simply too high. - Stabber: Fit it and fly it like a big fighter (it's almost as fast as a Vaga). Bad against cruisers, good against frigates. - Omen: Ask Adolf Ehrnrooth about Omens. Classical armour fit is very bad due to PG and CPU issues, but nano kiting fit is excellent as is the gank no prop coercer type fit. - Typhoon: Needs very high skills to work well, but if you have them, it's an amazingly versatile ship that can deal great damage. - Osprey Navy: No, I can't really see the value in this one either, apart from being a good frigate killer, but the Caracal can do it better for much less isk. Could possibly put a TD in the mids and kite turret cruisers.
The really bad ships in eve are in general the mining frigates and cruisers, the t1 versions of the interceptors, apart from possibly the Atron, the Ewar frigates apart from the Sentinel. Blasters have problems on cruiser and larger.
Mostly, however, all ships have something that's useful.
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Aquana Abyss
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Posted - 2011.02.28 13:06:00 -
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Megathron and Hyperion.
With maxed out fitting skills and Gallente BS 5, I'm still left thinking these ships are just crap because you cant even fit Neuron Blasters and any reasonable tank. If you do fit neutron blasters, you wont hit anyway coz their tracking/range is ****.
Why does anyone ever fly any tier 2 and 3 BS except for Amarr or Minmatar?
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Elisa Vilerum
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Posted - 2011.03.07 14:34:00 -
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fleet tempest is not good enough any other race fleet variant will be better than tier 3 BS.
but fleet pest just isn't good as mael and cost 3x more and cant deliver, and due to price is just wasting isk for pvp u just fit isk difference on mael and voila pwn boat right there to choose to most pvp situations
make me sad
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Dracoliche
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Posted - 2011.03.07 18:56:00 -
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Breacher
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Diesel47
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Posted - 2011.03.07 20:11:00 -
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Edited by: Diesel47 on 07/03/2011 20:11:46
Originally by: Bomberlocks The really bad ships in eve are in general the mining frigates and cruisers
Yeah basically, besides the osprey. That thing is wonderful.
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Tim Hibbins
Tim and Sasha Savings and Loans
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Posted - 2011.03.07 21:16:00 -
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Myrmidon, will never forgive ccp for nerfing it's bandwidth to hell.
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Justyce Gazer
Endless Destruction Imperial 0rder
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Posted - 2011.03.08 04:23:00 -
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I just went thru this thread and couldn't believe what I saw....or more to the point, what I didn't see.
Can anyone truly say, that now the Noctis has been released, that every single friggen T1 destroyer hasn't become irrelevant?
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Soldarius
Caldari Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.03.08 05:30:00 -
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Cormorant is absolutely beastly in level 1/2 missions. So no, its not useless.
Originally by: CCP Shadow ...I cannot guarantee (my) sobriety or decency.
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Revii Lagoon
The Foreign Legion Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2011.03.08 08:03:00 -
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Sacrilege, basically its an over priced drake, same tank, nearly same speed, less dps, smaller sig radius.
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Lost Greybeard
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Posted - 2011.03.08 08:32:00 -
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Originally by: Justyce Gazer I just went thru this thread and couldn't believe what I saw....or more to the point, what I didn't see.
Can anyone truly say, that now the Noctis has been released, that every single friggen T1 destroyer hasn't become irrelevant?
Depends how cheap you are, they're great for running L2s when you don't have the money on hand for a cruiser. Some of the L3s, too. ---
If you outlaw tautologies, only outlaws will have tautologies. ~Anonymous |
Jamaican Herbsman
I Love You Mary Jane
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Posted - 2011.03.08 10:36:00 -
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Personally, I hate Hurricane, Drake, Dramiel and Cynabal. They all are good ships, but EVERYONE flies them, so boring. Lowsec every second (solo) pirate flies a hurricane and the few (noob) ratters I catch on rare occations are mostly flying drakes. In 0.0 the gangs I encounter are usually filled with Dramiels and Cynabals.
That said, I understand some of them if not all are fotm and I understand that people want the best bang for their buck, but I wouldn't mind wider variety of ships around. Moar balance.
Oh yeah, I hate the useless ships as well, most of them already mentioned in this thread
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Aloe Cloveris
The Greater Goon
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Posted - 2011.03.08 10:37:00 -
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Drake. Encountering them is tiresome (but rewarding when they pop because I genuinely ****ing hate them) and the few times I've flown one I found pvping in a Drake is eerily similar to mining but not as exciting. |
Yurij Sobeit
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Posted - 2011.03.09 13:10:00 -
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Niddoghur and Hel. Cool looking as hell but so sub-par.
For non-caps, any ship slower than 1k m/s. Boring. Also all Amarr ships.
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Yabba Addict
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Posted - 2011.03.09 20:33:00 -
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Not a miner or anything, but still suprised the procuror hasn't come up yet, the only ship i know that is produced purely as the base of the T2 hull
I don't want to be human! I want to see gamma rays! I want to hear X-rays! I want to smell dark matter! Do you see the absurdity of what I am? I'm a machine! And I can know much more. |
Dorian Tormak
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Posted - 2011.03.09 21:08:00 -
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Hookbill. It's so dumb for it's price. I've beaten at least ten hookbills in my T1 frigs (merlin, rifter, Incursus). It's a 60 million ISK RunAway mobile.
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Aglais
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.03.11 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: Radcjk Most of the t1 Caldari gunboats. Moa, Specifically.
You probably put rails on it.
Nlaster Moas (and actually all the Caldari gunboats) perform quite well with blasters; the added range is quite useful, honestly more useful in my opinion than a damage bonus thanks to Blaster's such horrid ranges.
I'd have to say my least favorite ship is Drake.
So common as to be annoying, it's a steel pancake, and they're almost so easy to fly it borders on "Why bother?" territory.
I'm not saying the Drake is a bad ship, I just don't like flying it. At all. I'd take Bloa over Drake any day in a fleet.
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Dynast
Osirians Of Eve Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.11 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists All those t1 ships that are still beat down by the tier system. Dramiel, for taking the fun out of frig fights.
Seconded. Dramiel ruined solo frig roaming for me.
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Songbird
Gallente T.I.E. Inc.
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Posted - 2011.03.12 15:25:00 -
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Yet another vote for ENI. FFS - the normal exequror is a better ship. WTF?
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HiRider
Colonial Fleet Services Independent Faction
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Posted - 2011.03.13 04:55:00 -
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I would say any ship fitted by an idiot. I've been in a small fleet, flying a blaster Ferox, and out damaged battle ships. Now what does that say about the Ferox? that it can out damage a ship that was not fitted properly for damage output. Also it can out damage lasers. :P . |
Shaemell Buttleson
Euphoria Released Merciless.
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Posted - 2011.03.13 12:43:00 -
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My least favorite ship is the one that gets a point on me on all my lossmails.
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Celeste Chevalier
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.03.13 22:11:00 -
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Moa.
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