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McRoll
Minmatar The Legion of Darkness
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Posted - 2011.02.05 13:15:00 -
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How does it work exactly? I'm not quite sure if I got the description right: Do you launch one in a system and it shows you the types of signatures it contents, like 1 gravi and 2 radar? If so, does it also indicate at which planet which signature is or only the number and type of signature?
Would you say it's worth it to spend 13 days of training for astrometrics V? I do explore quite often but never came around to skill it, but I feel like bringing my explo skills up to date now.
There is also the hacking skill: in the description stands "increase of data retrieval per level". Does it work like salvaging where the skill only increases the probability to retrieve salvage per cycle or does it really increases the probability that there is someting in the can?
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NoNah
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Posted - 2011.02.05 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: McRoll How does it work exactly? I'm not quite sure if I got the description right: Do you launch one in a system and it shows you the types of signatures it contents, like 1 gravi and 2 radar? If so, does it also indicate at which planet which signature is or only the number and type of signature?
Would you say it's worth it to spend 13 days of training for astrometrics V? I do explore quite often but never came around to skill it, but I feel like bringing my explo skills up to date now.
There is also the hacking skill: in the description stands "increase of data retrieval per level". Does it work like salvaging where the skill only increases the probability to retrieve salvage per cycle or does it really increases the probability that there is someting in the can?
It used to do that, it no longer does. Nowadays it's just like a core probe, but with twice the max range. It's good for finding anomalies and might occasionally save you some time probing exploration sites, but honestly... it's not very useful. Parrots, commence!
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Boltorano
Fourth Circle Total Comfort
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Posted - 2011.02.05 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: NoNah
It used to do that, it no longer does. Nowadays it's just like a core probe, but with twice the max range. It's good for finding anomalies and might occasionally save you some time probing exploration sites, but honestly... it's not very useful.
More like 4x the max range. DSPs also don't experience signal strength drop as a signature gets farther from the probe nearly as quickly as the other probe types, so you can use them to filter signatures by their base signal strength.
In w-space, I can drop 1 x DSP at 256AU range and with one scan immediately identify which signatures is our static exit, as well as which signatures are potentially incoming wormholes. Well worth training for in my opnion.
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McRoll
Minmatar The Legion of Darkness
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Posted - 2011.02.05 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Boltorano
More like 4x the max range. DSPs also don't experience signal strength drop as a signature gets farther from the probe nearly as quickly as the other probe types, so you can use them to filter signatures by their base signal strength.
In w-space, I can drop 1 x DSP at 256AU range and with one scan immediately identify which signatures is our static exit, as well as which signatures are potentially incoming wormholes. Well worth training for in my opnion.
How does it look like? Is it a big bubble on which you can see the signature types? Like an "unknown" at planet 1 and a "gravimetric" on planet 2, kinda like that?
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NoNah
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Posted - 2011.02.05 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Boltorano
More like 4x the max range. DSPs also don't experience signal strength drop as a signature gets farther from the probe nearly as quickly as the other probe types, so you can use them to filter signatures by their base signal strength.
In w-space, I can drop 1 x DSP at 256AU range and with one scan immediately identify which signatures is our static exit, as well as which signatures are potentially incoming wormholes. Well worth training for in my opnion.
Technically 8x the max range. ;)
I'm very interested how you recognize the static exit with a single dsp though. Do they have a special id or something such? Parrots, commence!
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2011.02.05 15:58:00 -
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Each site has a base strength. Because of the low strength and long range of the deep space probes, when you scan the result you get is very close to the base strength of the site in question, with very little variation due to range. After a lot of scanning and record-keeping, you eventually come to realize that when you get a signature of strength XXX on the initial scan, it can only be one of Y sites. If I remember correctly, the base strengths of wormholes only shares with other wormholes. ______________________________________________________ Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? |
XXSketchxx
Gallente Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.05 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Gavin DeVries Each site has a base strength. Because of the low strength and long range of the deep space probes, when you scan the result you get is very close to the base strength of the site in question, with very little variation due to range. After a lot of scanning and record-keeping, you eventually come to realize that when you get a signature of strength XXX on the initial scan, it can only be one of Y sites. If I remember correctly, the base strengths of wormholes only shares with other wormholes.
This is on the right track but not quite true.
Additionally, wormholes do not only share strength with wormholes. In fact, in high sec, High sec -> C3 (X702) share strength with DED 4/10 and Watchs. Very convenient for tengu pilots
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2011.02.05 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: McRoll How does it look like? Is it a big bubble on which you can see the signature types? Like an "unknown" at planet 1 and a "gravimetric" on planet 2, kinda like that?
The results from a DSP are exactly the same format as the results from any probe: you get a signature ID, e.g.: "FNC-531", a signal strength "0.32%" and a distance (which doesn't matter). The nice thing with the DSP is that it's signal strength is very low to start with so you'll get consistent results across the entire 256AU range. -- [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel] |
Boltorano
Fourth Circle Total Comfort
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Posted - 2011.02.05 23:59:00 -
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Edited by: Boltorano on 05/02/2011 23:59:59
Originally by: NoNah
Technically 8x the max range. ;)
I'm very interested how you recognize the static exit with a single dsp though. Do they have a special id or something such?
Our static is a M267, which has a lower base signal strength than even the best LADAR sites and RADAR/magnetometric sites. With my skills it shows up as 0.10% or 0.11% on a 256AU scan, everything else is 0.12% or higher.
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McRoll
Minmatar The Legion of Darkness
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Posted - 2011.02.06 00:52:00 -
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Hmm, is there some list around, which signal strength belongs to which signature types? If yes, I would skill astro V but if I have to remember all that I might as well take s while longer to scan, I won't remember that anyway :(
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2011.02.06 01:52:00 -
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I think you'll need to make your own, because the actual results will vary with the modified strength of the probe. Covert Ops 4 or 5? 2x T1 gravity capacitor rigs, 1x T2, or none? Using an astrometrics frigate instead of a covert ops, or perhaps a recon ship? Virtue implants? PPH- implant? Astrometric Rangefinding skill level? ______________________________________________________ Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? |
Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2011.02.06 05:13:00 -
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There's a spreadsheet put together by xxSketchxx in the thread "Exploration - click here to unravel the mystery" which will help you identify signatures based on signal strength. -- [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel] |
McRoll
Minmatar The Legion of Darkness
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Posted - 2011.02.06 12:02:00 -
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Awesome, that will make me train astro V good sir.
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