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IceBergSlim
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Posted - 2011.02.07 16:23:00 -
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I'm buying a new desktop PC and want to be able to run two accounts at the same time on separate screens. I've heard this is called 'dual boxing'? Yeah?
Basically I need to know the requirements for the spec' necessary to do so. Anyone help?
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Ayieka
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Posted - 2011.02.07 16:26:00 -
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Well youre gonna want a quad core.
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Matalino
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Posted - 2011.02.07 16:27:00 -
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Almost anything that can run Eve can dual box. You don't need to over think it.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2011.02.07 16:28:00 -
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Your average priced video card these days will be more than capable of doing that. Don't need any high end specs.
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James Tiberius Kirk
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Posted - 2011.02.07 16:30:00 -
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Edited by: James Tiberius Kirk on 07/02/2011 16:30:39 Get a 6 core CPU. With the recent price slash, its great value. Get 4GB Ram at least as you're going to run 2 clients, for graphics card, you can settle for an old one, like 4830 or something.
Edit: An AMD 6 core, not that Intel overpriced ****.
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Ayieka
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Posted - 2011.02.07 16:32:00 -
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I hear 6-cores act up a lot, though. And like what that guy said, 4 is already more than enough.
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.02.07 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: Verone on 07/02/2011 16:36:26
Originally by: Ayieka I hear 6-cores act up a lot, though. And like what that guy said, 4 is already more than enough.
Running an Intel i7 980x here. Never had a single issue since building my machine with it, November 15 last year.
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IceBergSlim
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Posted - 2011.02.07 16:36:00 -
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Really? Superb. I thought I'd need something really expensive. Thanks for the replies. Much appreciated. |
Swynet
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Posted - 2011.02.07 16:38:00 -
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Basicly I would say to you: build it your self
Reasons: Choice of hardware, final price, opti performance over "packs" for 2/3 years +if you can get actual top stuff Cont: You need to know a few things about what is compatible and what is not OS: Win Pro version
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IceBergSlim
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Posted - 2011.02.07 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Swynet Basicly I would say to you: build it your self
Reasons: Choice of hardware, final price, opti performance over "packs" for 2/3 years +if you can get actual top stuff Cont: You need to know a few things about what is compatible and what is not OS: Win Pro version
I agree Swynet. Only hic-cup is I have about as much technological know-how as a whelk. |
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IceBergSlim
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Posted - 2011.02.07 17:01:00 -
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While I'm leeching information from you all, is there any specific cabling I'd need to do what I need to do? I'm aiming to be able to move the mouse 'over' from one monitor to the next activating each character automatically as I switch to & fro? |
Anslo
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.02.07 17:03:00 -
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I recently bought and built a new rig for dual-boxing eve at the highest graphics settings possible. My specs.
Tri-core 3.6 GhZ amd 1x 250gb hard drive 4 fanned case (not really needed but safety first for overheating) Gigabyte ma77ot-UD3 motherboard. Radeon 5770 PCI express 1gb gddrs graphics card 4gb ripjaw ram
I run eve full screen and full graphics ar around 80 fps. I heard others have done way better but hey...
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Ayieka
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Posted - 2011.02.07 17:11:00 -
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Yeah eve may be a pretty game, but its hardly demanding.
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RaTTuS
BIG Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2011.02.07 17:14:00 -
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if you are going for a new machine then win7 64bit 8GB RAM quad core NVidia GFX [YMMV but don't go for bleeding edge]
if you already have a 32bit OS [i.e. XP] go for 4GB [ok you cannot use it all but pfft]
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Swynet
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Posted - 2011.02.07 17:15:00 -
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Edited by: Swynet on 07/02/2011 17:16:06
Originally by: IceBergSlim
Originally by: Swynet Basicly I would say to you: build it your self
Reasons: Choice of hardware, final price, opti performance over "packs" for 2/3 years +if you can get actual top stuff Cont: You need to know a few things about what is compatible and what is not OS: Win Pro version
I agree Swynet. Only hic-cup is I have about as much technological know-how as a whelk.
Well for the comp side of the whole thing let's do it simple:
MB: Asus Pross: Intel Mem: Kingston last tech 4Gb or + Power: 800w + HD: Seagate (never had a single crash with those over 15years) GC: nVidia would be my advice with 2 med+ value stuff crossfire tech instead of high end stuff single (better 2 end stuff crossfire tech OC)- ATi build excellent stuff but their drivers are so poor so bad that you'll have more problems than with any nVidia low price if you don't have some software knowlege. nVidia is THE value you must not take away
This should be enough to take over 3years with 0 problem but you really need some friends advice and spend a few hours learning from them what to do, wy and most important, how does it works.
Software like Windows "x" or "y" is a tremendous progress over the years that only helps you making everything work + or - properly and use your favorite programs the easyest and intuative way possible, but your hardware IS with no doubt possible the main factor that you must be aware of.
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Richard Christy
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Posted - 2011.02.07 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Matalino Edited by: Matalino on 07/02/2011 16:35:04 Almost anything that can run Eve can dual box. You don't need to over think it. Originally by: Ayieka Well youre gonna want a quad core.
2Ghz dual-core is overkill for dual box Eve..
2GHz dual-core is overkill? Try buying a new CPU nowadays lamer than that.
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Jessie42
Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.07 17:18:00 -
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Eve will run on a ****ing toaster oven, any CPU from the past couple of years will be fine.
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ZenSun
Total Mayhem. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.02.07 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: ZenSun on 07/02/2011 17:23:12
First of all you do not need a great rig, or 8gb of ram for that matter...
If you want value for money go for AMD and Radeon stuff;
Asus am3 board (make sure it can run up to 1600mhz ram) Dual core will be good enough, its not a very taxing game. 2x2gb geil black dragon 1600mhz dual channel ram - ú40 (I got this myself, great ram and very nice price) Radeon 4000 series will suffice, I got a 4890HD Everything else can be pretty standard, you want to get a corsair or ocz stealth power supply, about 550+
You can pick up xp pretty cheap, otherwise go for 64-bit windows 7, I think you can push 4gb of ram with a current 32bit (probably 3gig)
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rodensteiner
Amarr Awesome Jacket Society
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Posted - 2011.02.07 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: IceBergSlim While I'm leeching information from you all, is there any specific cabling I'd need to do what I need to do? I'm aiming to be able to move the mouse 'over' from one monitor to the next activating each character automatically as I switch to & fro?
Just yesterday I hooked up a second monitor to my computer (my graphics card has two outlets)
From what I can tell, the only way you can achieve what you want to do is by running EVE in "windowed" mode. I haven't tried it with two clients as I only have one account, but I was running EVE windowed on one monitor, and something in a web browser on the other. Mouse moves from one screen to the other, it's pretty spiffy.
(I, too, am computer stupid)
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sableye
principle of motion
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Posted - 2011.02.07 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ayieka I hear 6-cores act up a lot, though. And like what that guy said, 4 is already more than enough.
I got a 6 core AMD Phenom II 1090T overclcoked to 4gz and I never had any issues woth anything I have had to run yet although I've heard of thinsg not running properly on 6 cores even stuff I use all time like xfire but I;ve had no issues but if you do ever get any issues you can tell the program to only run on as many cores as you like anyway.
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Yblarbo Janks
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.02.07 19:51:00 -
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If you have the money, dual box with 3 screens.
Get a Video card with Eyefinity capability. Dual box on two of the screens, and have third for Ventrilo, EveMaps, Redtube, whatever.
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Marconus Orion
Global Criminal Countdown
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Posted - 2011.02.07 19:56:00 -
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This is a nice setup for the casual eve player. Just imagine what the hard core players have... sheesh!
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Siriani Blue
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Posted - 2011.02.07 20:08:00 -
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What the above said, eve isn't demanding so don't feel as though you should have a top end cpu or gfx card.
AMD have some great processors out at the mo, or an Intel I5 should be more than sufficient and any mid range gfx card will keep you happy for 2 accounts.
I'm running an I7 930 with Radeon 5770 and that will fairly happily run 5 or 6 accounts across 2 monitors for when I feel the urge to satisfy the bear in me
Now all I need to do is justify to myself getting one of the Dell 27" uber monitors for 2560 x 1440 goodness in an eyefinity setup
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Hauling Hal
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Posted - 2011.02.07 20:36:00 -
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I was quite happily running 3 accounts on a dual-core 2.0 GHz CPU with 4 GB RAM and an AMD 4850.
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Shintai
Gallente Arx Io Orbital Factories Arx Io
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Posted - 2011.02.07 20:42:00 -
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Edited by: Shintai on 07/02/2011 20:44:23 Buying AMD after summer 2006 when Core 2 came. Is like buying a P4 before instead of a K8.
AMD=Slow, powerhungry, outdated tech.
Maybe this changes when AMDs new CPU architecture comes in summertime. But again, thats a maybe.
Cept in netbooks. Their new CPU hits those Atom based ones hard.
Edit: And get nVidia grahics. Unless you like having issues. --------------------------------------
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Zyx Shewma
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Posted - 2011.02.07 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Shintai Edited by: Shintai on 07/02/2011 20:44:23 Buying AMD after summer 2006 when Core 2 came. Is like buying a P4 before instead of a K8.
AMD=Slow, powerhungry, outdated tech.
Maybe this changes when AMDs new CPU architecture comes in summertime. But again, thats a maybe.
Cept in netbooks. Their new CPU hits those Atom based ones hard.
Edit: And get nVidia grahics. Unless you like having issues.
false. besides the top end i7, AMD is the better choice. And AFTER you've taken price:performance into account, there is absolutely zero reason to buy Intel right now unless you LOVE completely wasting your money. Seriously, you'd get better use out of hitting the ATM and using it for toilet paper, than buying Intel over AMD.
I agree about the statement on nvidia, though.
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I Love Boobies
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Posted - 2011.02.07 21:31:00 -
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Slim... building computers is rather easy. Just Google it, or even check out YouTube. There are tutorials there. It is much simpler than you think. It's all basically just making sure you have everything plugged in correctly, and all that stuff is pretty much idiot proof since they usually can only go in one way.
Also, the biggest problem is actually deciding what you want in your computer, lol. There is so much stuff out there, even for mid range computers. Finally, it's better in my opinion to build your own because you have 100% control over what is going into your system, I.E. name brand and quality, not just choosing from what they offer you from those "custom" build computer sites.
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dr cisco
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Posted - 2011.02.07 21:50:00 -
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i got a GTX 465, and core i7 860. started at 2.8GHz, but i overclocked it to 3.15GHz with great ease. with hyperthreading, I got double the cores! Intel is great, always been a fan. I also suggest nvidia unless you want to run 3+ multi-monitor. with these specs i get about 60-80 FPS using all high settings, x4 AA at 2960x1050 (across 2 monitors).
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Shintai
Gallente Arx Io Orbital Factories Arx Io
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Posted - 2011.02.07 22:00:00 -
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Edited by: Shintai on 07/02/2011 22:01:24
Originally by: Zyx Shewma false. besides the top end i7, AMD is the better choice. And AFTER you've taken price:performance into account, there is absolutely zero reason to buy Intel right now unless you LOVE completely wasting your money. Seriously, you'd get better use out of hitting the ATM and using it for toilet paper, than buying Intel over AMD.
I agree about the statement on nvidia, though.
LOL, AMD is an epic fail at CPUs.
Im sure you can see the performance deltas. Game1 Game2
Not to talk about AMDs CPU being...powerhungry.
And price. Yes I am sorry. 10$ saved and then the AMD system is like 25-30% slower than an i5 760. Not to talk about those 10$ gets wasted in heat over time. My mistake ;)
In short, no reason at all to buy an AMD CPU. UNless its in a netbook.
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mkmin
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Posted - 2011.02.07 22:13:00 -
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I was running 2 clients on my old computer that the recent expansion made incompatible. I run 2 clients now on a fairly old machine and my bottleneck seems mostly to be with RAM. Seems some of the new expansion has made the client more resource intensive (for no good reason and yes I am bitter about it) and I'm feeling the results, but just about any new machine shouldn't even notice. Client-side performance is generally not a very big deal since you can adjust a lot of the effects that might hurt client-side performance.
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