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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2011.02.11 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Neamus
Originally by: Pretty kitty I killed people in the army for money in reality. I now kill people in eve for free.
Sometimes we are drawn to the things we love no matter what.
So your great love in life is ending other peoples lives? I can understand enjoying playing a game about it, but I'm not sure I could murder someone irl and enjoy it. They would have to have really wound me up before hand.
Were you like that before you joined the army, or did you just develop a taste for it after a few kills?
Most active armys tend to attract the personality type that doesn't have moral issues with blowing stuff up which incidentally kills or horribly mulilates people in the process of defending whatever policies they believe in. From this pool of people there are bound to be certain types that find pleasure in killing his enemy. Good. Hire more of them to get them off the streets I say.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Moghydin
Independent Political Analysts
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Posted - 2011.02.11 17:34:00 -
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Communism is great, but only on paper. When applied to real ppl it fails horribly spawning worst and bloodiest dictatorships the world ever known. There's not a single example of successful communist country or government (if we exclude hunter-gatherer tribes that still live like their forefathers lived at the stone age). The essence of communism - contribute as much as you can, be rewarded as much as you like. Obviously there's no money and private property because everything is available for everyone for free. But ppl by nature are greedy, egoistic power hungry bastards (well, slightly exaggerating). Some ppl will try to take as much as they can without contributing anything. Besides that, every system that is based on good will or wisdom of the ruling elite will turn into monstrosity when you apply corruption to it. that's why monarchies, dictatorships and theocracies fail badly. The only system that manages to function relatively well is something that has restraints and counterweights to limit the corruption and natural greed. That system is capitalism and western democracy. Of course it can not be built in every society, there's a lot of pre-conditions for that, but it's not the place to discuss it at length.
Bottom line is - doesn't matter how you dislike western capitalism and democracy it is still the best thing that works in reality in those societies that are lucky enough to have necessary conditions for that.
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Ehranavaar
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Posted - 2011.02.11 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Yiffi
Originally by: egegergergsdgedgege What's bad or evil about communism? Obviously you have never read Marx.
http://www.digitalsurvivors.com/archives/communistbodycount.php
the fact that a bunch of goons called themselves communists doesn't make the for real communists. it you want a for real communist body count try adding up all the people killed by say hutterites in the last century.
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stoicfaux
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.02.11 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ehranavaar it you want a for real communist body count try adding up all the people killed by say hutterites in the last century.
Bah, pacifists. Pacifism only works if someone else is willing to defend you.
----- "Are you a sociopathic paranoid schizophrenic with accounting skills? We have the game for you! -- Eve, the game of Alts, Economics, Machiavelli, and PvP"
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Almori
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Posted - 2011.02.11 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Question Time
Originally by: Slade Trillgon WOOOOOOW someone is really misguided or trollishly vague in their political theory
Also, there are records of numerous tribal societies where systems very close to Communism worked extremely well
Slade
Okay, i will admit, I don't know of these tribes, but im familiar with small islands in the pacific, a lot of those are nearly communist, everyopne fishes, everyone helps out, does there bit, thats by choice, and loyalty to their family.. this is obvious
should have been in the addendum, when he realised, "ive just writted a load of bull****, do do it ffs, cos it a ****ing stupid idea i mad eup.. i was also paid loads of money, and im ****ing rich now.. and u know wat.. u aint having a ****ing dime"
karl marx, hypocrit
You think Marx was rich? You do know he needed money from his friend Engels to survive, yes? You do know his wife needed to beg money so their children would not die from hunger, yes? Also, your knowledge on communism is mediocre at best.
Marx has lived a poor man's life for a very long time (although he was wealthier than most the rest of the time). You obviously don't know the man, nor his writings. Please stop writing nonsense about things you know nothing about (this includes communism). Thank you.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2011.02.11 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Question Time Communism is an order, that's unnatural
Quite the opposite, actually. It's the only way large groups of creatures exist in large numbers.
You could say humans living in groups but still only caring about themselves is what's unnatural.
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Camios
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2011.02.11 20:47:00 -
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This topic can be quite interesting, but people use to think about politics as they think about football.
I'll quote egeregersts ecc, the word "Communism", red flags and stars were used in the 20th century just as flags, "support USSR and fight USA because we are on the weak's and worker's side". But they were lying. "Communism" was not a lie, the liars were those who proclaimed themselves communist. I have nothing to say to those who are counting bodies. They are just forgetting something too big to be serious.
That said, in EVE the problem is trust, and communism without trust is impossible.
P.S.: This thread should be locked.
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CCP Adida
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.11 21:58:00 -
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Locked as thread is directed toward a political discussion which is not allowed on the forums.
Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online
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