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Tom Gerard
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Posted - 2011.02.11 18:44:00 -
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Edited by: Tom Gerard on 11/02/2011 18:45:22
Many, many, many, many people list warp disruption fields (or "bubbles" as military experts call them) as the primary reason for not leaving high-security space.
Tom Gerard asks "Is this fair?"
Is it fair to restrict innocent high-sec citizens into small overcrowded high-security system?
The answer is 'YES' according to some null-security experts, 'High-Sec players are the trash of EVE and really should go back to playing warcraft'. Asking around Curse, Providence, and Syndicate similar answers were given. Various other responses which seemed off topic included "I miss CVA" and "Join my fleet".
Back to the relative safety of Jita, I asked around and recieved a surpsing response "Yes" several folks who were 'protecting' the undock point of Jita 4-4 replied "without arrogant 0.0 alliances stupid newbie alts wouldn't undock jita with overloaded tech 1 haulers". Asking around in Dodixie resulted in answers ranging from male anatomy, to my age sex and location.
So it seems from a random sampling of people, Warp Disruption Bubbles are an asset to both of EVE's high-sec and null-sec communities.
this is Tom Gerard signing off.
............................................ Blinding them with brilliance or baffling them with bull****. |
Syn Callibri
Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2011.02.11 18:47:00 -
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Posting in ANOTHER Tom Gerard thread.
[21EL] Commander Tac-Ops / [21EL] I.S.C. |
Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2011.02.11 18:48:00 -
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THANK YOU for posting a genuinely fresh and interesting thread on this subject.
Originally by: Tom Gerard
this is Tom Gerard signing off.
For good?
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2011.02.11 18:51:00 -
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Tom's theme music. Just put it in the background while reading the OP to get yourself in the proper mood.
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sinamrali
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Posted - 2011.02.11 18:52:00 -
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I had my first encounter with these devices when I exited a worm hole deep inside 0.0, about 40+ jumps from base. First time in 0.0, first time encountering a wtfbubble. Rest assured, I made it out ok employing some on-the-fly tactics to counter said devices. If this noob can do it, they don't need to go.
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Temporal Mechanics
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Posted - 2011.02.11 18:54:00 -
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No they should NOT be removed...
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TuHellen Back
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Posted - 2011.02.11 19:00:00 -
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Edited by: TuHellen Back on 11/02/2011 19:01:23 New players who want to accumulate something in Eve have absolutely no reason to venture into lowsec. The minerals in there are supposed to be better for mining if they haven't already been stripped by the Corp Bots. The rats are supposed to pay higher bounties but once you run out of ammo then you face a long treck back to highsec to buy more with no chance to defend yourself against PvP'ers if it comes down to attrition. Why even bother to think about lowsec if you are not in a corp that has a base in there? It's not like there is anything at the other side or in the middle to get to. Lowsec is taken, spoken for, occupied and has been for years so for me it doesn't even exist and I feel that is the attitude of many new eve players. Eve needs another system expansion to create a new goldrush and allow younger players to get out there into unnoccupied space. It's very stale at the moment. I'm not happy with a the sandbox Idea. I'm from Australia and I want a beach.
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.02.11 19:03:00 -
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I hope they boost Drakes real soon.
Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive. |
Captain Megadeath
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Posted - 2011.02.11 19:10:00 -
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Poasting in a Ger Tomard thread.....
Simple answer to this simple problem......
Use a Tengu.
Or other such T3 with Interdiction Nullifier.
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails my name actually is short for catherine
Yeah, Katie Door perhaps...... lol
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Ingvar Angst
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Posted - 2011.02.11 19:14:00 -
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I'd say yes, remove them. I don't have a valid reason why, but the tears it would generate would be amazing!
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.02.11 19:20:00 -
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I think CCP needs to give us a counter. Maybe a new T2 or T3 transport that can fly past bubbles and warp disruptors.
I don't mind doing some hauling in that ship in low or no sec. --------- The making of the new Jenny Spitfire |
Brannoncyll
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Posted - 2011.02.11 19:25:00 -
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The only problem with bubbles IMO is due to the lack of entry points to null sec. If there were more ways to leave high sec then bubble gankers would have to employ their bubbles tactically rather than just sitting on the low-null gate all day. This would then allow people to enter and leave high sec easily providing they use their brain.
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captain skinback
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Posted - 2011.02.11 19:33:00 -
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drag bubbles suck their ****ing annoying. the other deployable bubbles are cool though, so are the interdict bubbles.
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2011.02.11 19:36:00 -
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Low sec bubbles are annoying aren't they.
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Mithrasith
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Posted - 2011.02.11 19:46:00 -
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M0ar Bubbl3s Ar3 N33d3d!!!!
Seriously though, the already made low sec to null sec gates larger for the n00b crowd, so that a single dictor really cant cover it anymore. You need multiples to snag ships, so they made it easy already.
Its only when you are floating through the wilderness of 0.0 that it becomes easier to snag someone with a bubble, and even then there are quick and easy ways around it.
Therefore, I submit that Tom should be moved back to doing in-station weather reports, and not these epic feature stories.
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I Love Boobies
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Posted - 2011.02.11 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Sig Sour Low sec bubbles are annoying aren't they.
I see what you did there...
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Kendon Riddick
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Posted - 2011.02.11 20:35:00 -
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Tom only posts so we post in his threads, thus all are piontless.
yey im in a tom thread.
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mkmin
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Posted - 2011.02.11 20:40:00 -
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1) no 2) trolls should be removed from the game. 3) trolls should be removed from the gene pool, just to be sure 4) this thread is now about cheese. I could really go for some gorgonzola about now. Maybe an eggplant gorgonzola lasagna. Yum.
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Aloe Cloveris
The Greater Goon
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Posted - 2011.02.11 20:45:00 -
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Perch bookmarks should be a bannable exploit. Warp to zero was implemented for a reason.
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captain foivos
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Posted - 2011.02.11 20:51:00 -
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Many, many, many, many people list Tom Gerards (or "trolls" as military experts call them) as the primary reason for not reading the forums.
captain foivos asks "Is this fair?"
Is it fair to restrict innocent posters into reading much better moderated forums?
The answer is 'YES' according to some null-security experts, 'Trolls are the trash of EVE and really should go back to playing warcraft'. Asking around Curse, Providence, and Syndicate similar answers were given. Various other responses which seemed off topic included "I post on Kugu" and "Join my fleet".
Back in the relative danger of Jita, I asked around and recieved a surprising response "Yes" several folks who were 'protecting' the undock point of Jita 4-4 replied "without arrogant 0.0 alliances stupid newbie alts wouldn't undock jita with overloaded tech 1 haulers". Asking around in Dodixie resulted in answers ranging from male anatomy, to my age sex and location.
So it seems from a random sampling of people, trolls are not an asset to both of EVE's high-sec and null-sec communities.
this is captain foivos signing on. -- Need a break from EVE? |
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Spurty
Caldari V0LTA
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Posted - 2011.02.11 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: captain foivos this is captain foivos signing on.
You sir, rock (Good name play too :0 )
Hoppit!
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Sealiah
Minmatar Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Care Factor
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Posted - 2011.02.11 22:22:00 -
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Please move to F&I where this thread will be properly trolled.
Besides that, no content, please lock.
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Tom Gerard
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Posted - 2011.02.11 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Sealiah Please move to F&I where this thread will be properly trolled.
Besides that, no content, please lock.
Unfounded allegations of trolling are unfounded.
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Kim Jong Lau
Gallente Hysteria Nexus
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Posted - 2011.02.11 23:10:00 -
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Did you guys even read the OP, wheres the trolling?
It is a shame to see the eve community gang up on another player because of his out of the box thinking.
Saying that bubbles should remain, keep up the great work Tom, CCP need you! - 0.0 will be all MINE! |
Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2011.02.11 23:20:00 -
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1. Select controversial game mechanic/topic
2. Make thread
3. Deny trolling
This is Professor Tarantula, signing out.
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Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc
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Posted - 2011.02.11 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tom Gerard
Is it fair to restrict innocent high-sec citizens into small overcrowded high-security system?
Only the guilty high-sec citizens are restricted. The innocent leave for null-sec and cease to be high-sec citizens.
But on a serious note (and yes, I am aware this is a Tom Gerard thread), in the past I've lived in null-sec for years and bubbles are not a problem. Granted they do what they are intended for but with a bit of imagination they are just another obstacle to overcome.
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Awesome Possum
Gallente Isk Relocation Services
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Posted - 2011.02.11 23:30:00 -
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i wasn't aware bubbles worked in lowsec no matter what you did, kids that don't enter low/null now still wouldn't enter it.
however, one thing i think should be changed is bubbles only keeping you from warping out. someone warping in shouldn't be affected. would give a neat change to how they're used. ♥
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Bryg Philomena
Don't Taze Me Bro
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Posted - 2011.02.12 01:28:00 -
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Bubbles need an expiration to be honest. I remember one system in 0.0 in particular. 10-15 large bubbles anchored all over the gate. You had to fly over 200km to get out of the cluster****. Several ravens ratted and macroed in there all the time. It was screwed up. Plus the small pull bubbles on a handful of gates. I like the idea of bubbles, but they shouldn't last forever.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Am I reading this correctly? You claim you have a bug that undresses female avatars???
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Parah Salin McCain
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Posted - 2011.02.12 01:29:00 -
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I realise I am just feeding your sad, troll insecurities, and satisfying your desire to feel popular and get responses to your **** threads, but man, you're not funny, not even a remotely decent troll. You're an idiot. Your threads are boring. Keep try, knobhead.
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Durnin Stormbrow
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Posted - 2011.02.12 02:52:00 -
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Myself, I think binary effects with no counter are generaly a bad idea. Anything you can fit a ship to do, should have a counter fitting. ECM/ECCM. Damp/SeBo. AB/WEB. MWD/Scram. NosNeut/Capboost. TD/TComp. Point/Stab.
Bubbles, cloak, infinate point and unprobable fits have been in Eve long enough that much of the game revolves around the fact that they exist. Removing them at this point would likely cause more problems than it fixes. That said, I do beleive that any effect without a direct counter will lead to gameplay problems.
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