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Lady Skank
Ban Evasion inc
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Posted - 2011.02.12 03:17:00 -
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Originally by: Brannoncyll The only problem with bubbles IMO is due to the lack of entry points to null sec. If there were more ways to leave high sec then bubble gankers would have to employ their bubbles tactically rather than just sitting on the low-null gate all day. This would then allow people to enter and leave high sec easily providing they use their brain.
The introduction of region and to a lesser extent constellation gates made entry point camping much harder, unless the camp is 30+ ships you are almost guaranteed to get back to the gate as you spawn very close to the huge structure of the gate and can be anything up to 70km from other ships that are sitting 0m from the gate.
Besides you do use a scout instead of jumping blind into a system that might be camped in a ship that cannot get away don't you?
As for the OP nothing CCP can do to change the attitude of fearful bears that believe they would instantly get ganked the second they left 0.5 sec space, they wont even go to low sec which doesn't have bubbles so removing them wouldn't encourage those kind of players to go to nullsec.
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Tom Gerard
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Posted - 2011.02.12 05:15:00 -
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Edited by: Tom Gerard on 12/02/2011 05:16:21
Originally by: Lady Skank Ban Evasion inc
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sableye
principle of motion
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Posted - 2011.02.12 05:39:00 -
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you only care about warp bubbles when your on the wrong side anyway. I recently ran three 0.0 camps moving stuf out of 0.0 they not as invicible as yo'd imagine although I grant on jump in if you get stuck in one your dead but thats why we have a thing called intel
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Cyno Condor
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Posted - 2011.02.12 05:58:00 -
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Allow warp core stabilizers to let you jump out of a bubble.
T1 smalls have 1 point T2 Smalls have 2 points T1 mediums have 2 points T2 mediums have 4 points T1 larges have 4 points T2 larges have 8 points
Leave Dictor bubbles the same since you need to actually pay attention for them
Then make t1 warp core stabs have 1 point and t2 warp core stabs have 2 points of warp power.
There ya go! Bubbles have a counter yet remain effect against most combat ships. It would still allow haulers which gimp themselves to get through bubbles while making the people who want to haul for stuff also risk more.
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krickettt
Golden Orb Technology inc
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Posted - 2011.02.12 06:40:00 -
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You make a good point. To even it out bubbles should be allowed in lowsec and hisec.
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Nergart
Gallente GWA Corp
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Posted - 2011.02.12 06:50:00 -
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Originally by: krickettt You make a good point. To even it out bubbles should be allowed in lowsec and hisec.
you just want to bubble the perimiter gate in jita dont you?
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Boma Airaken
White Song Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2011.02.12 08:12:00 -
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I am going to catch some huge ****ing heat for this, and should probably just go ahead and cancel my CSM application immediately after posting this, but yes. With the introduction and proliferation of HIC's, anchored bubbles are just a stale annoyance and an excuse for less in your face player versus player interaction.
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Cryptkiller
Minmatar Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.02.12 08:29:00 -
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Remove warp to zero then start the discussion over.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Sigma Special Tactics Group Fleet Coordination Coalition
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Posted - 2011.02.12 08:44:00 -
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Bubbles shmubbles I've been to 0.0 numerous times and never got there using gates.
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Alxea
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Posted - 2011.02.12 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Tom Gerard Edited by: Tom Gerard on 11/02/2011 18:45:22
Many, many, many, many people list warp disruption fields (or "bubbles" as military experts call them) as the primary reason for not leaving high-security space.
Tom Gerard asks "Is this fair?"
Is it fair to restrict innocent high-sec citizens into small overcrowded high-security system?
The answer is 'YES' according to some null-security experts, 'High-Sec players are the trash of EVE and really should go back to playing warcraft'. Asking around Curse, Providence, and Syndicate similar answers were given. Various other responses which seemed off topic included "I miss CVA" and "Join my fleet".
Back to the relative safety of Jita, I asked around and recieved a surpsing response "Yes" several folks who were 'protecting' the undock point of Jita 4-4 replied "without arrogant 0.0 alliances stupid newbie alts wouldn't undock jita with overloaded tech 1 haulers". Asking around in Dodixie resulted in answers ranging from male anatomy, to my age sex and location.
So it seems from a random sampling of people, Warp Disruption Bubbles are an asset to both of EVE's high-sec and null-sec communities.
this is Tom Gerard signing off.
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.12 11:48:00 -
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Moved from General Discussion to Features & Ideas.
Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Alxea
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Posted - 2011.02.12 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Cyno Condor Allow warp core stabilizers to let you jump out of a bubble.
T1 smalls have 1 point T2 Smalls have 2 points T1 mediums have 2 points T2 mediums have 4 points T1 larges have 4 points T2 larges have 8 points
Leave Dictor bubbles the same since you need to actually pay attention for them
Then make t1 warp core stabs have 1 point and t2 warp core stabs have 2 points of warp power.
There ya go! Bubbles have a counter yet remain effect against most combat ships. It would still allow haulers which gimp themselves to get through bubbles while making the people who want to haul for stuff also risk more.
You must have never heard of T3 before then.
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Azure Blooder
Amarr A Miner Dream
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Posted - 2011.02.13 15:50:00 -
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This probably won't help at all, but why not switch highsec and null sec for a day and see what happens. Probably won't make anything different for bubbles but would make it pretty funny. lol ---------------------- Knowledge is power Power is Knowledge
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.13 17:42:00 -
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sure they're fine. CCP should make some ship dance bubbles too.... oh and bubbles that make all the ships in the area make a noise that sounds like a choo-choo train... (sic) |
taque
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Posted - 2011.03.22 11:42:00 -
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i rather would like to see a 'bubble' as an advanced technique and an invitation to actually try and play in a joint venture.
Quote: Many, many, many, many people list warp disruption fields (or "bubbles" as military experts call them) as the primary reason for not leaving high-security space.
i don't see the reason why 'many many many people' use the existence of those bubbles as a main reason to stay in high sec space.
Quote: Tom Gerard asks "Is this fair?" Is it fair to restrict innocent high-sec citizens into small overcrowded high-security system?
there are lots and lots high sec systems that have 8 locals. thats overcrowded? the routes to tradehubs like Jita are overcrowded indeed. but that does not mean they live there or are even high sec players.
Quote: The answer is 'YES' according to some null-security experts, 'High-Sec players are the trash of EVE and really should go back to playing warcraft'.
wait! define high sec players please. i know a number of players that play Eve in high sec because of their limited playtime and don't want to get stuck in a wormhole or low/null sec and prefer the safeer high sec missions f.e. what is wrong about that? are they 'the trash of Eve' ?
Quote: Asking around in Dodixie resulted in answers ranging from male anatomy, to my age sex and location.
what has this to do in relation with the question you asked? is this relevant information for you and worth to post? :p
Quote: So it seems from a random sampling of people, Warp Disruption Bubbles are an asset to both of EVE's high-sec and null-sec communities.
so....if that is the outcome...what is YOUR opinion and conclusion? i only can read here that both null-sec experts and players in Jita say 'YES'. so where the hell are those many many many players, the 'thrash of Eve'? did you have had an interview with one of those players? there must be many many..so not hard to pick one on the list lol
did they brought in any arguments? did they tell you their stories?
or is this one of your monthly random ramblings because you have to much time on hands? :)
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Josef Huffenpuff
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.03.22 11:53:00 -
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Would it not be simpler to just remove Tom Gerard from Eve ?
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2011.03.22 12:11:00 -
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no, they should not.
0.0 is only for people which are capable of handling threats properly.
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Heeraku
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Posted - 2011.03.22 12:25:00 -
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Just make a counter-bubble bomb, fitting a high module, fitting only a ship above BC.
1) Jump in. 2) Detonate the module. 3) Bubble is gone for 30 sec. 4) Warp in rest of fleet. 5) ??? 6) Bubble back online.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2011.03.22 14:10:00 -
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there is no need for a bubble nerf, tbh. They are fine as they are now.
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Jaik7
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Posted - 2011.03.22 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Nergart
Originally by: krickettt You make a good point. To even it out bubbles should be allowed in lowsec and hisec.
you just want to bubble the perimiter gate in jita dont you?
first i would do research and make sure it is not a bannable offence.
then i would watch someone else's bubble make life miserable for a bunch of freighters cause someone else anchored the bubble
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Shurikane
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Posted - 2011.03.22 14:43:00 -
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Bubbles are one of the (very, very few) ways I could actually target and shoot at somebody in nullsec within two seconds of him appearing on my overview.
They are made to blockade particular routes and draw in foes so they have to maneuver around to escape. I've spent great moments webbing rivals who dropped in, and would sorely miss the battle potential if these bubbles were taken away.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.03.22 17:01:00 -
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Removed: No. Changed: Yes.
- Reduce anchoring time to 20-25% of current. - Require external power source to make bubble deploy (can be any EM radiation (TP, R.Sebo, TD, Damp, etc)) - Increase size to prevent frigates from being able to deploy medium/large (relevant ship size or hauler to deploy basically). - Increase EHP of individual unit.
Gives them tactical purpose far beyond what we have now and makes them usable by roamers as well as home-field campers.
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Baaldor
Igneus Auctorita Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.03.22 17:50:00 -
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Edited by: Baaldor on 22/03/2011 17:51:08 Leave the bubbles alone. They are fine.
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Marchocias
Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2011.03.22 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ingvar Angst I'd say yes, remove them. I don't have a valid reason why, but the tears it would generate would be amazing!
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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2011.03.22 20:42:00 -
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Bubbles are awesome the way they are.... Lets focus on stuff that's out-of-balance or broken rather than removing one of eve's better tactical tools.
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TuRtLe HeAd
Apocalypse Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.04.27 11:30:00 -
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Aye, if its not broken don't try fixing it.
it adds another role to PvP outside of point and all shoot at the same target.
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