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Rorriana
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Posted - 2011.02.14 14:52:00 -
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Greetings,
I am in the midst of setting up passive/nearly passive income for myself, and i had a few questions concerning these 2 areas.
R&D: What sort of income per month can I expected from 5x level 4 R&D agents from Lai Dai? An approximation is fine, I know varying fields can change it. Assuming relevant science and negotiation skill both at 4.
PI: Assuming I have 5 planets possible(all PI skills at 4) and I intend to setup mostly unattended (1 or 2 week cycles most of the time), is it possible to set up 4 planets each producing T1 components, and then a single planet which I cna import to which can build those into T2 and then T3?
Thank in advance for your replies.
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Chelone
Outside The Asylum
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Posted - 2011.02.14 15:42:00 -
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Figure maybe 8 datacores / day for 5 agents. At 300k / core that's 2.4M / day per R&D character. Not that much but it's totally passive.
I dunno what kind of extraction WEEK-long cycles could give you on PI but it's gotta not be too great. You'll also probably end up filling up your spaceport before then. All my planets produce P1 and P2 with only one type of extractor which does not change. I pre-load them with whichever P1 they aren't generating. At this point I only have to physically go there like once a week, when the spaceport is filled with P2 + P1.
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Greg Huff
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Posted - 2011.02.14 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Rorriana R&D: What sort of income per month can I expected from 5x level 4 R&D agents from Lai Dai? An approximation is fine, I know varying fields can change it. Assuming relevant science and negotiation skill both at 4.
If you're datacores average 200k isk then you're looking at around 30mil. Figure on 1 datacore per day per agent, but you should draw just a bit more than that.
Originally by: Rorriana PI: Assuming I have 5 planets possible(all PI skills at 4) and I intend to setup mostly unattended (1 or 2 week cycles most of the time), is it possible to set up 4 planets each producing T1 components, and then a single planet which I cna import to which can build those into T2 and then T3?
Absolutely, that's the generally recommended method.
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Rorriana
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Posted - 2011.02.14 16:01:00 -
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Thank you both for the information.
Is there other significant methods of passive income I am missing?
I'm already deciding on whether or not it is worth picking up some blueprints to research to fully utilize my research slots as well. I am not an industrialist so I'm not using those slots anyways, but not 100% certain it is worth the effort. I reckon I could research up a set of ammo or drone BPOs and put them up at 5% over NPC price for some random income as well.
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Hockston Axe
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.02.14 16:19:00 -
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Might I suggest the always useful agent locator, agentÆs fields, the market or eve central and an always useful calculator. To give you an idea of real RP with all skills at lvl 4 I get 171.52 RP/day with Panakiya in graviton physics and 84.48 RP/day with Kokanogi in molecular eng.
If you want top quality agents in your faction 2-some I suggest doing Carthum Conglomerate for your other 3 agents. TheyÆve got a ton of stations and agents and 7 (2 low-sec) storyline agents, 2 in the same system, so itÆs not too tough to raise standings with them.
As for PI extraction depends on where you are and if anybody else is there too. The longer the cycle the less youÆll get, but depletion should be less of a problem. As for income lets use robotics since theyÆre an easy example. You need 2 basics running 24/7 of each p1 flavor to run one robotics line 24/7. That makes 3 robotics an hour, 2160/30 days at 50k a unit thatÆs 108M/month. At lvl 4 you could have 4 lines going on your production planet, if your extraction locations can keep up, especially with the long cycle.
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Rorriana
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Posted - 2011.02.14 16:29:00 -
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If an R&D agent has research in the following fields:
Caldari Starship Engineering Electromagnetic Physics Electronic Engineering Graviton Physics Rocket Science
If I request research in the field of say, Electronic Engineering, what will increase my datacore production? Am correct in saying only my level of the skills 'Negotiation' and 'Electronic Engineering'(which has to be at 4 to use a level 4 agent anyways).
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Zircalla
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Posted - 2011.02.14 16:31:00 -
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Quote: which has to be at 4 to use a level 4 agent anyways
Incorrect.
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Hockston Axe
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.02.14 16:36:00 -
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http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Research_agent
The RP that you will accumulate are based on only three factors: your field-specific skill level, base quality of the agent, and the agent level.
RP/day = Field multiplier * (1 + (AQ + 5*N)/100) * (SS + AL)^2
AQ = Agent Quality N = character's Negotiation skill level SS = character's specialist science field level (eg "Quantum Physics") AL = Agent Level
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Rorriana
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Posted - 2011.02.14 16:37:00 -
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Edited by: Rorriana on 14/02/2011 16:43:32 EDIT: I answered my own question.
Thank you everyone for your help, I can now evaluate my training queue and priorities properly. Still always on the lookout for more income if there are any suggestions :P
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HillAnt
Amarr Power and Friendship and Heroism
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Posted - 2011.02.14 19:18:00 -
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in regards to longer cycle time... with extraction the difference between a 1 day cycle and a 2 day cycle from extractors is 3% after 24 hours. What I mean is... during the first 24 hours a 2 day cycle extracts about as much as a 24 hour cycle. The advantage of using a 2 day cycle over a 1 day cycle is that you can just leave it on and still be extracting resources and you can reboot it and get a decent yield again. Disadvantage is also that if you do stop the program after 1 day and restart it again, you will probably deplete your hotspot a bit quicker.
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Drake Krain
Caldari Space Nerds of Fortune
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Posted - 2011.02.15 01:33:00 -
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R&D agents are nice for nearly passive income but the skills and standings required take awhile.
my 2 cents on R&D agents.
as for PI well I just started it but if I did my math right it should be relatively profitable as long as PI prices don't fall too much further
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Robbie Robot
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Posted - 2011.02.15 04:00:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Krain R&D agents are nice for nearly passive income but the skills and standings required take awhile.
my 2 cents on R&D agents.
as for PI well I just started it but if I did my math right it should be relatively profitable as long as PI prices don't fall too much further
I did my calculations when I first started PI. Due to depletion, my numbers were too high. I guess I need to read up on depletion to avoid it in the future. <this end up> |
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