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Amaroq Dricaldari
Amarr Universal Deathdealing Militia Fusion Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.16 18:05:00 -
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Every Hard Drive has a buffer. And most Hard Drives for At-Home PC use only have a few hundred megabytes in their buffer. But as it turns out, a buffer is just RAM built into the Hard Drive, so if you are willing to take aprt your hard drive, then replace the current buffer with 2x 2GB Sticks of RAM (I recommend LapTop Ram as it takes up less physical space). That is sure to increase your Hard Drive's speed when viewing large files or running programs with alot of huge files. For example: EVE Online, WoW, Half-Life 2, etc. -- As an Amarr Defector, I chose to become a Mercenary and Industrialist. I also have one goal in mind: Create a new age of peace and prosperity for all four empires. |
Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2011.02.16 18:40:00 -
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Care to link the instructions? Also I'm fairly sure hard drives don't use normal desktop or laptop memory sticks.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Amaroq Dricaldari
Amarr Universal Deathdealing Militia Fusion Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.16 18:55:00 -
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Well, I do know that the Hard Drive's buffer uses RAM, but I don't know exactly what type it uses. But if I checked now, I would have to kill my PC. -- As an Amarr Defector, I chose to become a Mercenary and Industrialist. I also have one goal in mind: Create a new age of peace and prosperity for all four empires. |
Cpt Placeholder
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Posted - 2011.02.16 19:03:00 -
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Err... are you serious? Don't believe everything you're told.
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Amaroq Dricaldari
Amarr Universal Deathdealing Militia Fusion Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.16 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Placeholder Err... are you serious? Don't believe everything you're told.
Good. I don't believe you. Alright, shoot him out the airlock. -- As an Amarr Defector, I chose to become a Mercenary and Industrialist. I also have one goal in mind: Create a new age of peace and prosperity for all four empires. |
Sader Rykane
Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.02.16 19:09:00 -
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Hard drive... memory sticks... what?
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REiiGN15
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.02.16 19:16:00 -
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Link how to do it or it isn't possible. ================================================= What is right is not always popular, and what is popular is not always right. |
Amaroq Dricaldari
Amarr Universal Deathdealing Militia Fusion Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.16 19:19:00 -
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Read it more carefully. And there is a difference between RAM and Memory Sticks.
RAM: Random Access Memory. Stores data on a short term basis and cannot store it without being fed with power. When you turn off your computer, it clears your RAM. The more RAM you have, the faster your computer.
Memory Stick: Consists of Flash Memory for Long Term Storage. Does not make your computer faster, but allows you to store data for long periods of time.
Buffer: The Buffer inside a Hard Drive is faster than the Hard Drive itself, and consists of RAM. However, most Hard Drives only have a few megabytes of RAM in their buffer. -- As an Amarr Defector, I chose to become a Mercenary and Industrialist. I also have one goal in mind: Create a new age of peace and prosperity for all four empires. |
Major Failsauce
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.02.16 19:40:00 -
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0/10
Trolldar went off the scale!
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2011.02.16 19:42:00 -
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Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 16/02/2011 19:42:36
Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari Read it more carefully. And there is a difference between RAM and Memory Sticks.
RAM: Random Access Memory. Stores data on a short term basis and cannot store it without being fed with power. When you turn off your computer, it clears your RAM. The more RAM you have, the faster your computer.
Memory Stick: Consists of Flash Memory for Long Term Storage. Does not make your computer faster, but allows you to store data for long periods of time.
Buffer: The Buffer inside a Hard Drive is faster than the Hard Drive itself, and consists of RAM. However, most Hard Drives only have a few megabytes of RAM in their buffer.
Here is the typical hard drive circuit board. Its always on the outside of the case and is always made with surface mount chips. Care to show how you install a stick of ram?
Originally by: Major Failsauce 0/10
Trolldar went off the scale!
Yes we know but its amusing to get them to keep the troll alive.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Amaroq Dricaldari
Amarr Universal Deathdealing Militia Fusion Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.16 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 16/02/2011 19:42:36 [Here is the typical hard drive circuit board. Its always on the outside of the case and is always made with surface mount chips. Care to show how you install a stick of ram?
Originally by: Major Failsauce 0/10
Trolldar went off the scale!
Yes we know but its amusing to get them to keep the troll alive.
I didn't mean to start trolling. I didn't even notice until you blurted it out. As for installing RAM, all you need is to make some physical modifications to the Hard Drive, and make sure that you have a Soldering Iron ready. -- As an Amarr Defector, I chose to become a Mercenary and Industrialist. I also have one goal in mind: Create a new age of peace and prosperity for all four empires. |
Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2011.02.16 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 16/02/2011 19:42:36 [Here is the typical hard drive circuit board. Its always on the outside of the case and is always made with surface mount chips. Care to show how you install a stick of ram?
Originally by: Major Failsauce 0/10
Trolldar went off the scale!
Yes we know but its amusing to get them to keep the troll alive.
I didn't mean to start trolling. I didn't even notice until you blurted it out. As for installing RAM, all you need is to make some physical modifications to the Hard Drive, and make sure that you have a Soldering Iron ready.
Care to link or explain in detail those instructions? I'm sure many a computer nerd would be interested.
Otherwise you can purchase a seperate controller card that had additional buffer memory for faster access. But adding it to the hard drive itself is not even something that shows up in a google search.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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CharmingButIrrational
Roswell Project Victimz
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Posted - 2011.02.16 19:52:00 -
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lol
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Amaroq Dricaldari
Amarr Universal Deathdealing Militia Fusion Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.16 20:07:00 -
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About that Circuit Board: Which part is the buffer? -- As an Amarr Defector, I chose to become a Mercenary and Industrialist. I also have one goal in mind: Create a new age of peace and prosperity for all four empires. |
Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2011.02.16 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari About that Circuit Board: Which part is the buffer?
One of those square chips mounted to the surface.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Lady Skank
Ban Evasion inc
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Posted - 2011.02.16 20:27:00 -
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I did what the OP said and now my ú39.99 hard drive is as fast as bleeding edge HD! OP is awesome just do what he says and solder as RAM chip to your HD and see the awesomeness for your self!
OP is well good! |
Cairn Bolete
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Posted - 2011.02.16 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari About that Circuit Board: Which part is the buffer?
This has to be a joke because no ordinary person suggests to other people that taking apart a hard drive to make modifications to it is a good idea, especially when said person has no idea what he's talking about. |
Vogue
Short Bus Pole Dancers
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Posted - 2011.02.16 20:30:00 -
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Soldering with surface mount technology requires a lot of skill and more than your average soldering iron. |
Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2011.02.16 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: Cairn Bolete
Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari About that Circuit Board: Which part is the buffer?
This has to be a joke because no ordinary person suggests to other people that taking apart a hard drive to make modifications to it is a good idea, especially when said person has no idea what he's talking about.
Its no joke.
Its a troll.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Cairn Bolete
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Posted - 2011.02.16 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Its no joke.
Its a troll.
Tomato tomato.
Wait.. that doesn't really work when written.
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2011.02.16 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Cairn Bolete
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Its no joke.
Its a troll.
Tomato tomato.
Wait.. that doesn't really work when written.
You say tomato I say tomahto.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.02.16 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 16/02/2011 19:42:36
Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari Read it more carefully. And there is a difference between RAM and Memory Sticks.
RAM: Random Access Memory. Stores data on a short term basis and cannot store it without being fed with power. When you turn off your computer, it clears your RAM. The more RAM you have, the faster your computer.
Memory Stick: Consists of Flash Memory for Long Term Storage. Does not make your computer faster, but allows you to store data for long periods of time.
Buffer: The Buffer inside a Hard Drive is faster than the Hard Drive itself, and consists of RAM. However, most Hard Drives only have a few megabytes of RAM in their buffer.
Here is the typical hard drive circuit board. Its always on the outside of the case and is always made with surface mount chips. Care to show how you install a stick of ram?
Originally by: Major Failsauce 0/10
Trolldar went off the scale!
Yes we know but its amusing to get them to keep the troll alive.
Do like the Minmatar, duct tape. - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
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Grimpak
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.02.16 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari About that Circuit Board: Which part is the buffer?
One of those square chips mounted to the surface.
in that pic's case, I'm seeing this chip with the phillips logo to the right of the CMOS chip (the one inside the plastic encasing). so perhaps that one? ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
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Taedrin
Gallente The Green Cross Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.02.16 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari Read it more carefully. And there is a difference between RAM and Memory Sticks.
RAM: Random Access Memory. Stores data on a short term basis and cannot store it without being fed with power. When you turn off your computer, it clears your RAM. The more RAM you have, the faster your computer.
Memory Stick: Consists of Flash Memory for Long Term Storage. Does not make your computer faster, but allows you to store data for long periods of time.
Buffer: The Buffer inside a Hard Drive is faster than the Hard Drive itself, and consists of RAM. However, most Hard Drives only have a few megabytes of RAM in their buffer.
*le sigh*. First of all: Increasing the size of your hard drive buffer does not increase the speed of the hard drive. The buffer only exists as temporary storage so that the hard drive can operate asynchronously with the operating system. It is only "scratch space" for the hard drive and operating system to use so that they do not have to be continuously synchronized with each other. Increasing the size of this scratch space beyond a specific point does not increase the speed of operation (around 32MB IIRC). Furthermore, increasing the size of the buffer can DEGRADE performance on hard drives with lower throughput, as the buffer needs to be flushed once it fills. This process will take longer and produce higher latencies on disks with larger buffers over disks with smaller buffers.
Second: RAM means Random Access Memory. It says NOTHING about how the memory is stored, and does not require it to only store data on a short term basis. It merely means that data can be accessed randomly, instead of being required to access it sequentially (as in a magnetic hard drive or magnetic tape drive). RAM is generally broken down into two types: SRAM and DRAM. SRAM is Static, meaning that it does not need to be continually refreshed (but do need power to retain data, as data is stored as an electric charge which oscillates between 2 NOR or NAND gates).
Some technologies of RAM are non-volatile, meaning that they retain their data even after power loss. Examples of non-volatile RAM include: EPROM, EEPROM, Flash memory, Core memory, Magnetoresistive RAM, FeRAM, and many others.
ALSO: How in the hell are you going to match the pinouts on your DDR RAM sticks to the embedded memory chip stuck to the hard drive? Are pinouts even compatibile at all, or will it require a customized memory controller in order to properly manage the DDR RAM sticks? (RAM sticks are generally synchronized to the system clock - which the hard drive is not even connected to!).
I call shenanigans unless the OP posts THOROUGH documentation on how this is done. ----------
Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2011.02.16 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Originally by: Amaroq Dricaldari About that Circuit Board: Which part is the buffer?
One of those square chips mounted to the surface.
in that pic's case, I'm seeing this chip with the phillips logo to the right of the CMOS chip (the one inside the plastic encasing). so perhaps that one?
Nope. Thats the controller chip for the motor. The buffer is one above the adaptec chip.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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CCP Adida
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.16 21:50:00 -
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Locking as giving instructions on how to disassemble your computer parts isn't really wise. If you are not familiar with the inner workings of the computer DON'T TOUCH them. Leave it to the professionals.
Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online
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