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Brutious Burlious
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Posted - 2011.02.18 17:10:00 -
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Is it just me, or would anyone else like to see a little attention to the drone deployment method? I think that a folder system with drop downs for deployment could be improved.
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Amkzul
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Posted - 2011.02.18 17:15:00 -
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Ok, how? You want to critic the UI but you did not offer any ideas for improvement. Think like a game designer when you make suggestions like this and realize just saying "it could use improvement" does not help.
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Brutious Burlious
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Posted - 2011.02.18 17:17:00 -
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Edited by: Brutious Burlious on 18/02/2011 17:20:15 My suggestion would be a grouping mode, similar to how weapons/mods are grouped. Hot key actions to those groups to recall, engage, etc.....
Oh and also allow a right click function on the group that lists commands(engage, recall, etc.). That way you don't have to use hot keys.
Also, you could set predetermined groups of drones, say if your in a Domi or something, that would be ready to launch. I just think it would be easier or rather more user friendly than the current method
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr Omni Industrial Coalition Crooked Cross
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Posted - 2011.02.18 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Brutious Burlious Edited by: Brutious Burlious on 18/02/2011 17:20:15 My suggestion would be a grouping mode, similar to how weapons/mods are grouped. Hot key actions to those groups to recall, engage, etc.....
Oh and also allow a right click function on the group that lists commands(engage, recall, etc.). That way you don't have to use hot keys.
Also, you could set predetermined groups of drones, say if your in a Domi or something, that would be ready to launch. I just think it would be easier or rather more user friendly than the current method
The drop down menu already does this. You can group them and treat the groups independantly. Each group has it's own drop down options.
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Cyberman Mastermind
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Posted - 2011.02.18 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ingvar Angst The drop down menu already does this. You can group them and treat the groups independantly. Each group has it's own drop down options.
Too bad you can't mix'n'match, though. Try to add a webber drone to a bunch of damage drones... |
Ingvar Angst
Amarr Omni Industrial Coalition Crooked Cross
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Posted - 2011.02.18 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Cyberman Mastermind
Originally by: Ingvar Angst The drop down menu already does this. You can group them and treat the groups independantly. Each group has it's own drop down options.
Too bad you can't mix'n'match, though. Try to add a webber drone to a bunch of damage drones...
I've accidentally had mining drones mixed with combat drones. Tell that group to mine repeatedly and off the mining drones go while the combat drones look at you like you grew a third head.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2011.02.18 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Amkzul Ok, how? You want to critic the UI but you did not offer any ideas for improvement. Think like a game designer when you make suggestions like this and realize just saying "it could use improvement" does not help.
Well even simple buttons to do basic task instead of the dropdown menu would speed things up a bit. Yes there are shortcuts, but sometimes you have better uses for your keyboard hand, so actual drone command buttons for the in-space group on the inteface would be nice.
Also make it so, that it doesn't collapse the drone group menus every time I launch drones, happens when playing on 2 accounts, so I don't have to waste time fighting the UI. I'm perfectly capable of collapsing them on my own, if I see the need for it. The UI doesn't need to have a feature where it opens or closes them on it's own anyway.
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Archbeholder
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Posted - 2011.02.18 17:32:00 -
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1.Drone UI should remember the settings, cba every time to expand "drones in space" tab manually. 2.There should be a hotkey for launching drones.
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Mystic5hadow
Koku Uchu Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.18 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Archbeholder 1.Drone UI should remember the settings, cba every time to expand "drones in space" tab manually. 2.There should be a hotkey for launching drones.
This. Exactly this. If they had these two things, it'd be perfect for me.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2011.02.18 17:55:00 -
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Drones should be launched / launched + ordered to engage / recalled with UI buttons - not having to click through a nested folder tree.
Having customizable UI buttons that we could assign to wings of drones would be awesome. Ideally, the action of launching drones and ordering them to engage, should be down to one click or button-press - not the 8 or so currently required.
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JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.02.18 18:05:00 -
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I'm a little confused as to what you are asking for.
You can already make custom groups for your drones which automatically creates a new folder in the drone UI named after whatever you named that group. THEN add drones to that custom group and control them via a right click menu on the custom group folder itself.
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Brutious Burlious
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Posted - 2011.02.18 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Brutious Burlious on 18/02/2011 18:14:59 I guess what i'm trying to say is that i'd like to see buttons that can be customized to set groups of drones. These beautiful buttons would also have hotkey links for drone commands.
Click the button once, drones deploy. Click the button again, drones return.
I suppose naturally there would have to be restrictions on what types of drones could be grouped, depending on their function.
Right click the button(s) and you get a more detailed command list, similar to what we see now.
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Tarasina
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Posted - 2011.02.18 19:36:00 -
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Edited by: Tarasina on 18/02/2011 19:38:16
Originally by: Mystic5hadow
Originally by: Archbeholder 1.Drone UI should remember the settings, cba every time to expand "drones in space" tab manually. 2.There should be a hotkey for launching drones.
This. Exactly this. If they had these two things, it'd be perfect for me.
Theres one thing you might have not considered when launching drones. Which drones should be launched? In-case you have a dronebay that has place for more than 5 drones. The top ones? Sometimes that is not desired. What you could do (CCP) is number the groups. 1,2 etc and a hotkey to launch each dronegroup. Ctrl+Shift+1 for group 1 etc.
I don't know about buttons for engaging etc since we have hotkeys but it would NICE to see if drones are in Passive/Aggressive mode without going to drone settings.
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JC Anderson
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.02.18 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Tarasina Edited by: Tarasina on 18/02/2011 19:38:16
Originally by: Mystic5hadow
Originally by: Archbeholder 1.Drone UI should remember the settings, cba every time to expand "drones in space" tab manually. 2.There should be a hotkey for launching drones.
This. Exactly this. If they had these two things, it'd be perfect for me.
Theres one thing you might have not considered when launching drones. Which drones should be launched? In-case you have a dronebay that has place for more than 5 drones. The top ones? Sometimes that is not desired. What you could do (CCP) is number the groups. 1,2 etc and a hotkey to launch each dronegroup. Ctrl+Shift+1 for group 1 etc.
I don't know about buttons for engaging etc since we have hotkeys but it would NICE to see if drones are in Passive/Aggressive mode without going to drone settings.
Yeah, thats the way I deploy the drones usually. Especially in a curse, or any other drone boat.
I create a custom group for light drones, medium drones, ecm, etc etc and add them to those groups. Then control each group with the folder corresponding to each. I do agree however that added functionality to hot key select each custom group would be pretty cool.
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Baneken
Gallente The New Knighthood
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Posted - 2011.02.18 20:37:00 -
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Your current way of launching drones is:
1. put preferred drones to group 2. find a target 3. select a drone group from a pull down menu and select launch drones and select engage target to have your drones to attack. 4. keep hammering engage target to have your drones to actually stay in target.
We could have: 1. button to select active drone group 1, 2 etc. 2. click engage and drones auto launch from bay and attack target and might even stay on the damn target. 3. you could make all command as "drone command buttons" and would only need to select your drone group to command.
For wishful thinking to add after incarna (since hell has already frozen twice when Finland won icehockey world championships and came first in eurovision song contest): 1. ability to see damaged drones in drone bay 2. to be able to name you drones (we used to have this long time ago) 3. a working drone AI which isn't broken after each patch.
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Parnasas
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Posted - 2011.02.18 20:59:00 -
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They should make the drone window more like the fleet window. Instead of having the broadcast buttons, it would have buttons for launching, recovering, engaging, etc.
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syphurous
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.02.18 22:36:00 -
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The just need launch, engage and return buttons on he folder title itself, instead of having to right click on it.
Also, drones should automatically group into type and / or size, allowing you to move them to custom groupings after this. So if you have some Hobs, some Hammers, and some Ogre, they automatically drop into folders named that way. Most people will read this thinking it's part of my post, when its actually my sig :P
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Ashlar Maidstone
Amarr ASAD Spaces Insdustries The Chamber of Commerce
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Posted - 2011.02.18 23:05:00 -
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When I warp in to a mission site, I like to able when on launch have my drones set to aggressive without having to reset the settings every time I engage a target. That to me would be a big plus, set to aggressive already to go and let them do their thing without having to waste precious seconds setting them to the desired setting.
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syphurous
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.02.18 23:07:00 -
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Dear CCP, I can give you my bank account number to pay me for my work, or I can send you my CV, and we can talk about the possibility of me working for you :)
Most people will read this thinking it's part of my post, when its actually my sig :P
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syphurous
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.02.18 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ashlar Maidstone When I warp in to a mission site, I like to able when on launch have my drones set to aggressive without having to reset the settings every time I engage a target. That to me would be a big plus, set to aggressive already to go and let them do their thing without having to waste precious seconds setting them to the desired setting.
They stay to what you set, the highlight ring doesn't. FYI. Most people will read this thinking it's part of my post, when its actually my sig :P
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Kirynn
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Posted - 2011.02.18 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Baneken Your current way of launching drones is:
1. put preferred drones to group 2. find a target 3. select a drone group from a pull down menu and select launch drones and select engage target to have your drones to attack. 4. keep hammering engage target to have your drones to actually stay in target.
We could have: 1. button to select active drone group 1, 2 etc. 2. click engage and drones auto launch from bay and attack target and might even stay on the damn target. 3. you could make all command as "drone command buttons" and would only need to select your drone group to command.
For wishful thinking to add after incarna (since hell has already frozen twice when Finland won icehockey world championships and came first in eurovision song contest): 1. ability to see damaged drones in drone bay 2. to be able to name you drones (we used to have this long time ago) 3. a working drone AI which isn't broken after each patch.
Oh god please make it so!
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Everinsearch
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Posted - 2011.02.18 23:22:00 -
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Pre-Incursion there were drone launch keys you could bind. I had them bound.
Can we get the drone launch and recall keys back please. As for grouping, you highlight what you want to launch. It stays highlighted until you dock.
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Mutnin
Amarr Mutineers
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Posted - 2011.02.18 23:34:00 -
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Edited by: Mutnin on 18/02/2011 23:37:00
TBH, all we need is a button system, that could be nested to each group in the current folder drop down system.
example:
** Warriors ** Hammerheads ** 2 ECM-300
You should then be able to just press the first button to launch the drones then press the second button for attack what ever target you have selected then hit the 1st button again to recall the drones. This would at least save from having to go with the right click method from the drop down.
although syphurous' little image looks pretty nice.
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San Severina
Minmatar One Point 0
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Posted - 2011.02.18 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Archbeholder 1.Drone UI should remember the settings, cba every time to expand "drones in space" tab manually. 2.There should be a hotkey for launching drones.
+1
I find the drones in space tab very very annoying, especially when you consider how simple it would be to make it more effective. Not a big job for the programmers at all & I have seen many posts here calling for this change. A hotkey to launch would be a bigger job but again would be well worth the effort from a playability perspective. __________________________________________________
No sympathy for the Devil! Always remember that....
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San Severina
Minmatar One Point 0
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Posted - 2011.02.18 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: Everinsearch Pre-Incursion there were drone launch keys you could bind. I had them bound.
Can we get the drone launch and recall keys back please. As for grouping, you highlight what you want to launch. It stays highlighted until you dock.
You can *hotkey* return to drone bay. __________________________________________________
No sympathy for the Devil! Always remember that....
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Lain Umi
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Posted - 2011.02.19 01:19:00 -
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Originally by: Amkzul Ok, how? You want to critic the UI but you did not offer any ideas for improvement. Think like a game designer when you make suggestions like this and realize just saying "it could use improvement" does not help.
you moron, it's not our job to give them ideas. only feedback. stop trolling.
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Noxides
APEX ARDENT COALITION Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.02.19 01:31:00 -
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I dont see any problems with the drone window tbh. All i do is: - Lock Target, while its locking right click the folder of the type of drones I want and click launch. - press Alt+1 - watch the pew pew - Press Alt+2 - Repeat when I find someone else.
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Lord Ravenknight
Amarr ASAD Spaces Insdustries The Chamber of Commerce
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Posted - 2011.02.19 10:00:00 -
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I am fine with the way it is overall. I would just like a way to quickly launch drones. There already it is a shortcut to recall them to bay and one to make them attack target. But you can't launch with a shortcut. Maybe have default drone groups we can arrange in the drop down menu and then have shortcuts to launch each group.
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.19 10:51:00 -
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Moved from 'EVE General Discussion'.
Spitfire Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online |
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Tysliss
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Posted - 2011.02.19 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: syphurous Dear CCP, I can give you my bank account number to pay me for my work, or I can send you my CV, and we can talk about the possibility of me working for you :)
This.
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