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Isbariya
The Dancer. A Point In Space
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Posted - 2012.08.24 11:25:00 -
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Dear CCP, do you have any news regarding the promised shield buffer implant set ? For those who don't know what I'm talking about, they wanted to implement a counterpart to the slave implant set which gives a bonus to armor hit points.
I'd like to see them implemented as it would even the gap between shield supers and armor supers and a lot of other shield ships, too. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.24 11:41:00 -
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I want a set too, would make a rattlesnake even more op!
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Mandos2k
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.24 11:48:00 -
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Who cares for shield buffer implants? I want active armor implants! Give me my armor Crystals! |
TheBreadMuncher
Boxxed Up Industries EPIC Alliance
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Posted - 2012.08.24 11:52:00 -
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You can have your shield buffer when they make armor tanking as good as shield tanking. "We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming. |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
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Posted - 2012.08.24 11:54:00 -
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I need to get some for my noctis. I usually don't fit a tank on it, so some shield slaves would make up for that. I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |
Cede Forster
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Posted - 2012.08.26 07:55:00 -
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TheBreadMuncher wrote:You can have your shield buffer when they make armor tanking as good as shield tanking.
if you think armor tanking is inferior, why use it? |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.26 08:26:00 -
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There is absolutely no need to homogenize tanking any further. "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Isbariya
The Dancer. A Point In Space
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Posted - 2012.08.26 09:49:00 -
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it's not homogenizing the tanking methods, it's simply even the support options. If you say it's too powerful to have such a buff to shields then maybe the slave set should be deleted as it would be just as powerful. For those who would cry out that shield tanks have the crystal set, well i have no problem with a similar set for armor, as long as it wont affect capital modules like the original crystal set, or let both affect capitals.
But I'm still waiting for a response from CCP |
illirdor
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2012.08.26 11:33:00 -
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the thing about shield slaves would be that it not only give more shield buffer but it also boost shield regen so it would be almost like slave and crystal in a nice little package...
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Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.26 15:18:00 -
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TheBreadMuncher wrote:You can have your shield buffer when they make armor tanking as good as shield tanking.
Hmmm CCP is going to get in a time machine and give us shield buffer implants a long time ago, that's what you're saying? Because armor tanking is just fine. In low-sec there are way more armor tanked boats than shield tanked boats. That wouldn't be the case if armor tanking was as bad as you would like people to believe. |
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TheBreadMuncher
Boxxed Up Industries EPIC Alliance
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Posted - 2012.08.26 17:07:00 -
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Cede Forster wrote: if you think armor tanking is inferior, why use it?
Because I Armor Tanked before it was cool. If I have a good armor tanking skillset, I'm going to get ships that armor tanked to a decent level of competence before I switch to shield tanking. Doesn't mean I don't think it's inferior. Next time, don't try to be clever. "We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming. |
Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.08.26 17:30:00 -
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I would rather a shield version of an ENAM (Passive across the board resists) module before a shield slave version.
The current drawback to shield tanking is the necessity for cap. Passive tanking with armor is what makes it superior as there is no drawback.
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Garreth Vlox
Blackened Skies The Unthinkables
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Posted - 2012.08.26 19:16:00 -
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Isbariya wrote:it's not homogenizing the tanking methods, it's simply even the support options. If you say it's too powerful to have such a buff to shields then maybe the slave set should be deleted as it would be just as powerful. For those who would cry out that shield tanks have the crystal set, well i have no problem with a similar set for armor, as long as it wont affect capital modules like the original crystal set, or let both affect capitals.
But I'm still waiting for a response from CCP
LOL shields have a huge advantage when kiting and range dictating in an engagement because the tank on an armor ships slows it down. You can have your implants when they add a cap booster fueled armor rep to the game. |
Skorpynekomimi
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Posted - 2012.08.26 19:43:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:I would rather a shield version of an ENAM (Passive across the board resists) module before a shield slave version.
The current drawback to shield tanking is the necessity for cap. Passive tanking with armor is what makes it superior as there is no drawback.
And that's what differentiates it from shield tanking! Isn't game balance wonderful?
Because if shield and armour were identical, everyone would just use whatever took up slots they didn't want to put stuff in, or whatever the logi nearby was set up for. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2012.08.26 19:58:00 -
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This is kind of a non issue for me as I am pretty good at getting my combat pilots podded pretty regularly. They generally have no implants at all.
Now if I was in, say, Neg 10 for example and just sat on a gate all day in a pimp Mach that I will never lose (let alone get podded) since I only fight haulers, it might be different. But I'm not, so I don't actually see the need to buy expensive implants that will only last a day or so.
Mr Epeen There is no excuse beyond fatalistic self-indulgence and sheer laziness for doing nothing --á Iain Banks |
Dr Nefarius
Volatile Instability Fusion.
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Posted - 2012.08.26 20:21:00 -
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A shield buffer implant with similar stats to the slave set would make passive shield tanks insane. Still, just add a penalty to shield recharge time equal to the % increase in shield HP, and it would be a nice addition imo. |
Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2012.08.26 20:44:00 -
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Shield tanking already has massive benefits over armor tanking.
True it's more cap intensive but at the same time, the hitpoints come at the start of the cycle, the cycles are way faster and for quickfire engagements its a far more effective and stable method of defence.
In the end, shield and armor tanking are designed to be different from the ground up. They're designed to offer solutions to two different play styles and two different mentalities when it comes to PvP.
Creating a set of implants like this just blurs the line between shield and armor tanking, and is pointless.
Verone CEO & Executor Veto Corp WWW.VETO-CORP.COM |
NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
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Posted - 2012.08.26 22:40:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:I would rather a shield version of an ENAM (Passive across the board resists) module before a shield slave version.
The current drawback to shield tanking is the necessity for cap. Passive tanking with armor is what makes it superior as there is no drawback. THey are called adaptive invuln 2s with maxed out shield compensation. And they are nice, but I prefer to turn them on and get some significantly more tank. |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
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Posted - 2012.08.26 23:12:00 -
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Chribba wrote:I want a set too, would make a rattlesnake even more op!
Wasn't there once a time when there was no stacking penalties and the scorpion line of bs were op'ed? Can't imagine what the forums looked like then. Still, some new shield imps would be nice none the less. |
Isbariya
The Dancer. A Point In Space
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Posted - 2012.08.30 21:52:00 -
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and still no word from CCP ... |
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Lili Lu
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Posted - 2012.08.30 21:58:00 -
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No word probably because you have it wrong. They were not promised. Link your alleged promise. |
Kingston Black
Hostile. PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
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Posted - 2012.08.30 22:08:00 -
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There is no word on them because everyone in CCP can see the issues with them. |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.08.30 22:10:00 -
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Lili Lu wrote:No word probably because you have it wrong. They were not promised. Link your alleged promise. Last I heard of these implants they were proposed by CCP as one of like 8 different possible solutions CCP was considering looking into to help with Super Balance before the last round of it.
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ALCYONE
The Logs Show Nothing
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Posted - 2012.08.30 22:31:00 -
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'Because armor tanking is just fine. In low-sec there are way more armor tanked boats than shield tanked boats. That wouldn't be the case if armor tanking was as bad as you would like people to believe.' Lucy Ferr
I think the reason you pvp in armor tanking mostly is so you can use your lows for Buff/Dmg mods and you Mids for Web/Scram.. ....NO ? |
Lili Lu
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Posted - 2012.08.30 23:13:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Lili Lu wrote:No word probably because you have it wrong. They were not promised. Link your alleged promise. Last I heard of these implants they were proposed by CCP as one of like 8 different possible solutions CCP was considering looking into to help with Super Balance before the last round of it. Ah, yes there was a dev post in one of those threads responding to complaints about slaves working on supers, and listing the proposed solutions players had posted in the thread. To have put shield slaves on such a list and say they are looking into it is far from a CCP promise to introduce shield salves.
A much better solution is to just make the crystal and slave sets inoperable on capital sized ships. Then as far as subcaps go it is easy to see how shield slaves would be incredibly stupid, because drakes need no buff. |
Effect One
Selective Hearing Nearly Feared
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Posted - 2012.08.31 17:45:00 -
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Erm, isn't passive shield tanking OP enough...? |
Isbariya
The Dancer. A Point In Space
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Posted - 2012.09.06 16:40:00 -
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and a bump ;-P |
Kari Juptris
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.09.06 16:51:00 -
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Lili Lu wrote:Alara IonStorm wrote:Lili Lu wrote:No word probably because you have it wrong. They were not promised. Link your alleged promise. Last I heard of these implants they were proposed by CCP as one of like 8 different possible solutions CCP was considering looking into to help with Super Balance before the last round of it. Ah, yes there was a dev post in one of those threads responding to complaints about slaves working on supers, and listing the proposed solutions players had posted in the thread. To have put shield slaves on such a list and say they are looking into it is far from a CCP promise to introduce shield salves. A much better solution is to just make the crystal and slave sets inoperable on capital sized ships. Then as far as subcaps go it is easy to see how shield slaves would be incredibly stupid, because drakes need no buff.
Armor Capital master race. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
705
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Posted - 2012.09.06 16:52:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Lili Lu wrote:No word probably because you have it wrong. They were not promised. Link your alleged promise. Last I heard of these implants they were proposed by CCP as one of like 8 different possible solutions CCP was considering looking into to help with Super Balance before the last round of it.
Actually capital shield ships don't need passive buffer implants, they need better capacitors, cap recharge rates because lol Minmatar and Calamari because of this only. The ships are the problem, not the lack of implants. brb |
MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
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Posted - 2012.09.08 05:46:00 -
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rodyas wrote:I need to get some for my noctis. I usually don't fit a tank on it, so some shield slaves would make up for that. I too would like some slaves implanted into a shield just to watch them flare up for a moment. |
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