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Lilianna Star
SAZI Enterprises The Aslyum
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Posted - 2012.08.24 17:50:00 -
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All I can think of was the Falcon, the Rifter and Megathron.
Are there any others?
Not talking about any that are OP right now, just ones that were majorly OP until they got nerfed. |
Kuehnelt
Devoid Privateering
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Posted - 2012.08.24 17:54:00 -
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If you poke me while I'm fast asleep, I'll jerk awake shouting something about Dramiels. |
Lilianna Star
SAZI Enterprises The Aslyum
80
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Posted - 2012.08.24 17:55:00 -
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Kuehnelt wrote:If you poke me while I'm fast asleep, I'll jerk awake shouting something about Dramiels.
Dramiel! Perfect, what was overpowered about them?
Please tell me it was their speed. |
vyshnegradsky
MNU Operations Luna Sanguinem
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Posted - 2012.08.24 17:58:00 -
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Titans while they still had the AoE Doomsdays |
Joshua Samson
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.24 18:08:00 -
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Lilianna Star wrote:All I can think of was the Falcon...
Not much has changed on that front.
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Kuehnelt
Devoid Privateering
249
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Posted - 2012.08.24 18:15:00 -
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Lilianna Star wrote:Dramiel! Perfect, what was overpowered about them?
Please tell me it was their speed.
Well... looking back, it was mainly their ability to prevent me from making defensive use of the directional scanner. That was probably a hidden bonus that got removed with the nerf. I did think there was nothing I could possibly fly (since I only flew laser frigs) that could deal with a Dramiel. But these days? Or in Winter, when the rest of the T1 frigs are removed from the gutter? I'd make a go with a neuting Vengeance or Malediction or ASB Crucifier.
Oh, but then: "if it looks like you can kill them then they can just run away, that's not faaaaaaair."
Sorry, but it got nerfed before I knew anything about this game, and since it's barely flown anymore, I haven't looked at it since. |
Noisrevbus
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Posted - 2012.08.24 18:15:00 -
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Prior to various stacking rebalances there have been many, some notable old ones (prior to 2008) include:
Laser BS with stacked damage mods (eg., blap-Geddons).
Missile BS with stacked propulsion mods (eg., Cavalry ravens).
Drone BS with stacked mass mods (eg., nano-Phoons and nano-Domis during the nano era).
Today, the imbalance in ships tend to revolve around new ships (Tier 3 BC), XL-blap and ASB.
Things like Falcons, Drakes and SC hitpoints are only really imbalanced per relation (of numbers). |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2012.08.24 18:24:00 -
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Nos Domis. Snaked, polycarbed Crows. |
Mutant Caldari
Percussive Diplomacy PERCUSSIVE PIZZA TIME DIPLOMACY
14
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Posted - 2012.08.24 18:27:00 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:Nos Domis. Snaked, polycarbed Crows. <3 @ NOS Domis, NOS Vexors, NOS Myrms. Those Crows though.... 35km/s Crows were so annoying. |
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
202
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Posted - 2012.08.24 18:38:00 -
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Gangs of kestrels chucking cruise missiles at you while going 30km/s
Torp raven before missile fix, could instapop a webbed frigate. Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |
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Yabba Addict
Red Shift Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.08.24 19:19:00 -
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Supercaps maybe? The ability to take down a pos singlehanded, combined with ewar immunity, remote ecm burst and able to fit enough tank to logoffski and wait out the aggro timer multiplied by New Edens increasingly over rich community seemed pretty OP at the time. Still is now i think of it, even after changes have been made |
Gabrielle Lamb
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.24 19:24:00 -
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Vagabonds (nano age) and Cavalry Ravens xD (C A V A L R Y R A V E N S!!!!!) |
Veryez
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.24 20:34:00 -
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Pffft kids....
Dual MWD torp ravens
1400 Arti-tempests before the revelations HP buffs
Torp stabbed Ravens before the WCS nerf
ECM/NOS Domi's before the ECM/NOS nerf
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Ezra Tair
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
97
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Posted - 2012.08.24 21:00:00 -
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Nano Curse before nano nerf. |
Buzzmong
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.24 21:16:00 -
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In terms of raw firepower vs cost, gotta be an old Gankageddon.
7x Mega Pulse with multfreq + 1x or 2x old 90% web + distruptor + 8x Heatsinks.
Well over 2k DPS. |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
1994
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Posted - 2012.08.24 23:20:00 -
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Remote AOE Doomsdays seemed pretty OP at the time. Back when having a couple Titans in your alliance was a MAJOR DEAL.
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Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.24 23:59:00 -
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Eos. Blasters x7 + T2 Ogres x5 = "OMG WTF it's so OP!!!1111!!onetyone!!" in the eyes of many. It wasn't over-powered, especially not in light of how poor information warfare links were and still are, in the overall scheme of things, but compared to other fleet command ships it was. That was enough to get its own b****fest crying for it to be nerfed.
Personally, I really despise this nerf because the eos was a lot more fun to do L4s in than the astarte. |
Hrett
Justified Chaos
170
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Posted - 2012.08.25 00:04:00 -
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Drake shall soon join this list! I'm probably typing on an iPad, which means the auto-correct is silly and fixing typos is a pain. I ain't fixing them. |
Zyella Stormborn
Alpha Strategy In Umbra Mortis
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Posted - 2012.08.25 03:57:00 -
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Can't help it... even with lag, I miss some of those old drone swarms. 3 Domis sitting out there like big potatoes, while 30 drones swarmed some poor sap. Brought a tear to my eye. ;) |
Paikis
Lycosa Syndicate Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2012.08.25 04:09:00 -
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Hrett wrote:Drake shall soon join this list!
Trololololol
I nominate: The Angels ships. All of them. |
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Nicaragua
SkREW CREW Local Down
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Posted - 2012.08.25 06:35:00 -
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Thorax back when it could field 5 heavy drones making it the best T1 cruiser blasterboat and drone boat. |
Sigras
Conglomo IMPERIAL LEGI0N
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Posted - 2012.08.25 09:08:00 -
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I know it's been said, but the calvary raven, back when torpedos were long ranged slow missiles, and you could get the raven going about as fast as the missiles, you could get a cloud of missiles to hit the target all at once . . . good times . . .
But lets see . . . the Dominix before the NOS nerf? that was pretty OP
The nano typhoon before the speed nerf
the titan when it could AOE DD through a cyno! |
Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
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Posted - 2012.08.25 11:21:00 -
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pretty much anything with an extra midslot before the ecm/sensor damp nerf.
A single multi spec could pretty much keep any ship jammed about 50% of the time... and this was on ships without ecm bonuses. A couple of sensor damps and suddenly my raven only had a 20km lock range and had a 3 minute lock time on another battleship!
Also, fire and forget NOS... they used to suck down cap till your target was bone dry, even if you still had 100% cap left.
Also.. i miss my torp caracals.... And cruise missile krestrals.... and 1400 arties before guns had tracking and sig resolutions.
huginn/raipers used to be DEATH to frigs with 30+km 90% webs.
Blasterthrons before HP and tanking buffs were basically: Target, approach, F1-F7, receive kill mail.
crows that could go 10km/s with a tech 2 fit and have zero tracking issues due to missiles.
Phoons with 4 nos 4 torps 5 heavy drones and 10-15km/s.
anything with 2-3 warp-core stabs before they nerfed your targeting range and resolution (used to they had no penalties at all). Before the HP buffs a geddon with 8 stabbs could warp into a group of 5 or 6 players gank a cruiser or two then leave because they didn't have enough points to pin it down.
I also miss cloak + MWD = insta warp. |
Hoshi
Paxton Industries Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2012.08.25 13:53:00 -
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Nicaragua wrote:Thorax back when it could field 5 heavy drones making it the best T1 cruiser blasterboat and drone boat. 8 heavy drones to be correct, which would be equal to 4 heavy today (the drone change cut every ships drone bay in half but doubled the hp and dps on all drones, the exception was the Thorax which got its drone bay cut to 1/4). "Memories are meant to fade. They're designed that way for a reason." |
Idicious Lightbane
Angry Mustellid Iron Oxide.
24
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Posted - 2012.08.25 15:51:00 -
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Last Wolf wrote: I also miss cloak + MWD = insta warp.
Unless something changed very recently it still is.
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
439
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Posted - 2012.08.25 16:05:00 -
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some of the more broken ships from the past in no particular order:
any ship with dual MWD and torps range clustering 1400 arty 'pests before tracking Pretty much anything with dual mwd lol nanophoons with pre nerf nos cruise kessys gank geddons (8 heatsinks) first gen falcon kite rifter/breacher with light missiles
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
532
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Posted - 2012.08.26 01:28:00 -
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I had a Viator that could warp out with 9 points on him. "This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro" |
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War DarkSide.
755
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Posted - 2012.08.26 01:31:00 -
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Titan's jump-portal is by far the most OP thing ever hitting TQ and - guess what? - it's still here untouched. 14 |
Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.26 01:43:00 -
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Hoshi wrote:Nicaragua wrote:Thorax back when it could field 5 heavy drones making it the best T1 cruiser blasterboat and drone boat. 8 heavy drones to be correct, which would be equal to 4 heavy today (the drone change cut every ships drone bay in half but doubled the hp and dps on all drones, the exception was the Thorax which got its drone bay cut to 1/4).
He might have been referring to the period when you could "cycle" drones through your drone bay to get extra drones in "static" positions. I.e. you're at a gate camp and flying an ishkur with 5 T2 ogres out because you popped out one or two yourself, and then someone in a dominix tossed out 3 more, warped off, and you scooped them up into your drone bay to redeploy up to the hard limit of 5 drones.
Basically at that point as long as it didn't need to warp around, or didn't care about losing drones if it did warp, any ship with at least 25mb drone bay could field 5 T2 heavies providing enough "donor" ships/drones in the vicinity. |
Lilianna Star
SAZI Enterprises The Aslyum
80
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Posted - 2012.08.26 03:59:00 -
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Fon Revedhort wrote:Titan's jump-portal is by far the most OP thing ever hitting TQ and - guess what? - it's still here untouched.
The reason I specified that I wanted OP vehicles that are nerfed as of now is because balance is a touchy subject and I didn't want this to devolve into a balance discussion.
This is how it always goes in my experience:
Step 1: "This is OP"
Step 2: "No it's not, learn to play."
Step 3: "Yes it is, here's why it is bad for the game."
Step 4: "You're a carebear newbie."
Step 5: "No I'm not, I'm a vet from beta day and I own sovereignty. This is overpowered."
Then go back to step 2 and repeat as necessary. |
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