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Lord Arakkis
Vestige of Vehemence Dragon Swarm Dynasty
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Posted - 2012.08.25 03:18:00 -
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Id like to get a thread going for people to post what they would like out of a ship and how it can be done. For example, if I want a frigate that can kite from 100km effectively, people with good knowledge on how to do this (if its possible) post a fit for that design. If you can, please give fit info, skills needed and if necessary alternatives should the proposed fit not be possible.
Im hoping this is a good way for people to test out possible fits and get knowledge from experienced players. PVP or PVE, mining, probe scanning..pretty much whatever you need for the task at hand.
So, can someone give me a Brutix fit that I can have a seriously solid tank for missions without surrendering to much cap stability? Your still a child in the eyes of the universe |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
196
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Posted - 2012.08.25 03:43:00 -
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Lord Arakkis wrote:Id like to get a thread going for people to post what they would like out of a ship and how it can be done. For example, if I want a frigate that can kite from 100km effectively, people with good knowledge on how to do this (if its possible) post a fit for that design. If you can, please give fit info, skills needed and if necessary alternatives should the proposed fit not be possible.
Im hoping this is a good way for people to test out possible fits and get knowledge from experienced players. PVP or PVE, mining, probe scanning..pretty much whatever you need for the task at hand.
So, can someone give me a Brutix fit that I can have a seriously solid tank for missions without surrendering to much cap stability?
You want the missions and complexes forum, this is the forum for pvp. |
Equus
Royal Order of Security Specialists Late Night Alliance
50
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Posted - 2012.08.25 05:06:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=251 |
Jack Miton
Bite Me inc Elysian Empire
513
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Posted - 2012.08.25 05:45:00 -
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what is, battleclinic? |
Dan Carter Murray
99
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Posted - 2012.08.25 08:04:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/c6xGi.jpg |
Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
337
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Posted - 2012.08.25 11:50:00 -
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chatgris wrote:Lord Arakkis wrote:Id like to get a thread going for people to post what they would like out of a ship and how it can be done. For example, if I want a frigate that can kite from 100km effectively, people with good knowledge on how to do this (if its possible) post a fit for that design. If you can, please give fit info, skills needed and if necessary alternatives should the proposed fit not be possible.
Im hoping this is a good way for people to test out possible fits and get knowledge from experienced players. PVP or PVE, mining, probe scanning..pretty much whatever you need for the task at hand.
So, can someone give me a Brutix fit that I can have a seriously solid tank for missions without surrendering to much cap stability? You want the missions and complexes forum, this is the forum for pvp.
Ships and modules is more the "fit" forum i think. Would be cool if Lork Arakkis could just figure out how to use google though, instead of making a thread every time he wants to do anything.
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Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1706
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Posted - 2012.08.25 18:27:00 -
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Lord Arakkis wrote:For example, if I want a frigate that can kite from 100km effectively haha.
hahahaha.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA !!!! *points and laughs*
.... *cough* ...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111oneoneone
*coughcough*
sorry 'bout that. XD
Could give you my 50km thrasher fitting ... or my 13k EHP thrasher fitting ... or my ...
... but no.
edit: Oh and sorry for being rude but i really dislike people who can't think for themselves. They shouldn't be supported. That's not to mistake with people who want to LEARN how to think for themselves, which you aren't, because you asked for specific fits. Yes, there's a huge difference you probably don't even know of.
Anyhow ... have fun. :) Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Kuehnelt
Devoid Privateering
253
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Posted - 2012.08.25 19:06:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Lord Arakkis wrote:For example, if I want a frigate that can kite from 100km effectively haha. hahahaha. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA !!!! *points and laughs*
[New Crucifier, effwective 100km kwiting]
Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script
Drone Link Augmentor I Drone Link Augmentor I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I Small Processor Overclocking Unit I Small Ionic Field Projector I
Warrior II x4 [25m3 space left]]
100km drone control range, 100km targeting range, 100km TD optimal, 100dps, 100% awesome.
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OK, OK. Say in a FW plex, you could set drones to assist someone at the warp-in before the enemy arrives. |
Jack Miton
Bite Me inc Elysian Empire
515
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Posted - 2012.08.25 19:21:00 -
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harpy can also snipe to 100km quite well. |
Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1708
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Posted - 2012.08.25 22:31:00 -
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Kuehnelt wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Lord Arakkis wrote:For example, if I want a frigate that can kite from 100km effectively haha. hahahaha. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA !!!! *points and laughs* [New Crucifier, effwective 100km kwiting] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script Drone Link Augmentor I Drone Link Augmentor I Small Processor Overclocking Unit I Small Processor Overclocking Unit I Small Ionic Field Projector I Warrior II x4 [25m3 space left]] 100km drone control range, 100km targeting range, 100km TD optimal, 100dps, 100% awesome. ... OK, OK. Say in a FW plex, you could set drones to assist someone at the warp-in before the enemy arrives.
I wasn't even thinking of drones, but as you didn't mention a type of weapon ... i give you that. :) Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
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Lord Arakkis
Vestige of Vehemence Dragon Swarm Dynasty
40
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Posted - 2012.08.25 22:35:00 -
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Thanks to those pointing out the wrong forum, ill look for a mod to move.
As to the little immature children who probably still live with mommy...get girlfriends. They tend to eliminate the need for passive aggressive dbagness lol Your still a child in the eyes of the universe |
Lord Arakkis
Vestige of Vehemence Dragon Swarm Dynasty
40
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Posted - 2012.08.25 22:37:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Lord Arakkis wrote:For example, if I want a frigate that can kite from 100km effectively haha. hahahaha. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA !!!! *points and laughs* .... *cough* ... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111oneoneone *coughcough* sorry 'bout that. XD Could give you my 50km thrasher fitting ... or my 13k EHP thrasher fitting ... or my ... ... but no. edit: Oh and sorry for being rude but i really dislike people who can't think for themselves. They shouldn't be supported. That's not to mistake with people who want to LEARN how to think for themselves, which you aren't, because you asked for specific fits. Yes, there's a huge difference you probably don't even know of. Anyhow ... have fun. :)
Please re read the starting post. A person with even the slightest common sense can see that this forum was made for the benefit of everyone, not just myself. And you shouldnt apologize for being what you unavoidably are.
Your still a child in the eyes of the universe |
Lexmana
708
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Posted - 2012.08.26 10:11:00 -
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Kuehnelt wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Lord Arakkis wrote:For example, if I want a frigate that can kite from 100km effectively haha. hahahaha. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA !!!! *points and laughs* [New Crucifier, effwective 100km kwiting] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script Drone Link Augmentor I Drone Link Augmentor I Small Processor Overclocking Unit I Small Processor Overclocking Unit I Small Ionic Field Projector I Warrior II x4 [25m3 space left]] 100km drone control range, 100km targeting range, 100km TD optimal, 100dps, 100% awesome. ... OK, OK. Say in a FW plex, you could set drones to assist someone at the warp-in before the enemy arrives. [Purifier, 120km]
Ballistic Control System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Ballistic Control System II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Gistii B-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot]
Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II
433dps @ 120km, 617dps @ 75km. 2130m/s. Cap stable.
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Lord Arakkis
Vestige of Vehemence Dragon Swarm Dynasty
44
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Posted - 2012.08.26 22:14:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Kuehnelt wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Lord Arakkis wrote:For example, if I want a frigate that can kite from 100km effectively haha. hahahaha. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA !!!! *points and laughs* [New Crucifier, effwective 100km kwiting] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script Drone Link Augmentor I Drone Link Augmentor I Small Processor Overclocking Unit I Small Processor Overclocking Unit I Small Ionic Field Projector I Warrior II x4 [25m3 space left]] 100km drone control range, 100km targeting range, 100km TD optimal, 100dps, 100% awesome. ... OK, OK. Say in a FW plex, you could set drones to assist someone at the warp-in before the enemy arrives. I wasn't even thinking of drones, but as you didn't mention a type of weapon ... i give you that. :) [Purifier, 120km] Ballistic Control System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Ballistic Control System II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Gistii B-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo [Empty High slot] [Empty High slot] Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II 433dps @ 120km, 617dps @ 75km. 2130m/s. Cap stable.
im training some skills that should help me get a similar fit
Your still a child in the eyes of the universe |
Immortis Zenz
Onyx Moon Industries
0
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Posted - 2012.08.27 17:15:00 -
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Lord Arakkis wrote:Id like to get a thread going for people to post what they would like out of a ship and how it can be done. For example, if I want a frigate that can kite from 100km effectively, people with good knowledge on how to do this (if its possible) post a fit for that design. If you can, please give fit info, skills needed and if necessary alternatives should the proposed fit not be possible.
Im hoping this is a good way for people to test out possible fits and get knowledge from experienced players. PVP or PVE, mining, probe scanning..pretty much whatever you need for the task at hand.
So, can someone give me a Brutix fit that I can have a seriously solid tank for missions without surrendering to much cap stability?
Hey Arakkis,
Typically the community tends to respond poorly to those that don't show some effort to build a ship on their own first. I recommend that you get a tool like EFT or EVEHQ and start putting ship fits together there. If you feel that you are missing something or can't get it right then you can bring it to this forum for discussion. Personally, I like to see that you have at least made the attempt at something, even if its a terrible fit that you bring here (Be prepared for flame war as this is a public forum). If you are looking for general fits then I suggest that you look at Battleclinic.com as an option.
Zenz |
Lord Arakkis
Vestige of Vehemence Dragon Swarm Dynasty
45
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Posted - 2012.08.29 22:34:00 -
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Immortis Zenz wrote:Lord Arakkis wrote:Id like to get a thread going for people to post what they would like out of a ship and how it can be done. For example, if I want a frigate that can kite from 100km effectively, people with good knowledge on how to do this (if its possible) post a fit for that design. If you can, please give fit info, skills needed and if necessary alternatives should the proposed fit not be possible.
Im hoping this is a good way for people to test out possible fits and get knowledge from experienced players. PVP or PVE, mining, probe scanning..pretty much whatever you need for the task at hand.
So, can someone give me a Brutix fit that I can have a seriously solid tank for missions without surrendering to much cap stability? Hey Arakkis, Typically the community tends to respond poorly to those that don't show some effort to build a ship on their own first. I recommend that you get a tool like EFT or EVEHQ and start putting ship fits together there. If you feel that you are missing something or can't get it right then you can bring it to this forum for discussion. Personally, I like to see that you have at least made the attempt at something, even if its a terrible fit that you bring here (Be prepared for flame war as this is a public forum). If you are looking for general fits then I suggest that you look at Battleclinic.com as an option. Zenz
I would somewhat understand that thought process if this was with the intent on looking for a fit for myself. It was not. This was an attempt at a community thread that anyone could come in and get some insight on. Not just myself. So, for people to respond in the way that a middle school adolescent would isnt needed. And Im known to be one of the less serious people from my group of player friends, so when I say that its mildly disgusting the level of immaturity some people show, even moree so in this day an age than ever, says a lot.
What is the state of things when a person tries to be of help to others and the children who want some attention they are probably missing elsewhere chime in for that purpose or the even more immature purposes of chiding someone? To that I say, act their age, not their ***** size. Your still a child in the eyes of the universe |
Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1717
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Posted - 2012.08.29 22:50:00 -
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Impressive. I stand corrected. :) Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1717
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Posted - 2012.08.29 22:52:00 -
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To the OP:
You should consider that you're not *actually* (aka: in the long run) helping people by giving them fittings to use.
Give a man a fish and he has food for a day, teach him how to fish and he has food for the rest of his life. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Lord Arakkis
Vestige of Vehemence Dragon Swarm Dynasty
45
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Posted - 2012.08.29 22:56:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:To the OP:
You should consider that you're not *actually* (aka: in the long run) helping people by giving them fittings to use.
Give a man a fish and he has food for a day, teach him how to fish and he has food for the rest of his life.
Maybe, maybe not. That is a bit of excessive thought. Just because they find a fit doesnt meant that they cant learn from it and adapt it to other areas they may be working towards fit wise. Your still a child in the eyes of the universe |
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
128
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Posted - 2012.08.29 23:43:00 -
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Thread moved from Warfare & Tactics to Ships & Modules - ISD Type40. ISD Type40 Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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mxzf
Blackened Skies
2074
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Posted - 2012.08.30 00:47:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:To the OP:
You should consider that you're not *actually* (aka: in the long run) helping people by giving them fittings to use.
Give a man a fish and he has food for a day, teach him how to fish and he has food for the rest of his life.
This. If anything, randomly handing out fits without teaching what they're for and why they work hurts people. Not only does it not teach them to think for themselves, it teaches them not to think for themselves. |
Lord Arakkis
Vestige of Vehemence Dragon Swarm Dynasty
45
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Posted - 2012.08.30 01:07:00 -
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ill think ill just form the opinion from what I see here that people would rather be passive aggressive children than actually contribute things of use. So, to those that have attempted to contribute, i thank you. Your still a child in the eyes of the universe |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
627
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Posted - 2012.08.30 04:59:00 -
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mxzf wrote:Solstice Project wrote:To the OP:
You should consider that you're not *actually* (aka: in the long run) helping people by giving them fittings to use.
Give a man a fish and he has food for a day, teach him how to fish and he has food for the rest of his life. This. If anything, randomly handing out fits without teaching what they're for and why they work hurts people. Not only does it not teach them to think for themselves, it teaches them not to think for themselves.
Yes and no. As you might notice, I randomly throw out fits with impunity. Sometimes I include the logic behind them, sometimes I leave that to the reader to decipher. I don't mind answering questions that ask for a fit with an actual fit provided the parameters aren't absurd (and sometimes even when they are, but then the fits usually match that; see the Loki thread). Part of the reason for that is that an actual fit can engender specific questions and critiques (rather than the rather general parameters that usually serve to kick off such a thread). This can help get at a deeper understanding of the logic veterans take for granted.
Honestly, I'm agnostic on the question in general. However, this thread in particular was a train wreck from the get-go and I've been intentionally leaving it alone. The level of ignorance on display in the OP plus the general attitude of subsequent follow-ups (see above ) have drained any usefulness out of this attempt. Maybe next time.... |
Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1718
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Posted - 2012.08.30 05:41:00 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:The level of ignorance on display in the OP plus the general attitude of subsequent follow-ups (see above ) have drained any usefulness out of this attempt. Maybe next time....
Yeah he failed and we built up on that. I'd say we did it right, although i feel questionable myself now. ^^ Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Songbird
59
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Posted - 2012.08.30 12:03:00 -
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Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, take away a man's fish and he'll catch another one for you to take tomorrow. (author unknown - seen in some signature ) |
Maeltstome
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Intrepid Crossing
59
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Posted - 2012.08.30 14:40:00 -
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mxzf wrote:Solstice Project wrote:To the OP:
You should consider that you're not *actually* (aka: in the long run) helping people by giving them fittings to use.
Give a man a fish and he has food for a day, teach him how to fish and he has food for the rest of his life. This. If anything, randomly handing out fits without teaching what they're for and why they work hurts people. Not only does it not teach them to think for themselves, it teaches them not to think for themselves.
Wrong.
Seeing correct fits leads to udnerstand why they are correct then adjusting accordingly. My first rupture was a missile boat because i hung around with too many caldari. seeing some working fits made me go "hmm... maybe i should work out WHY those fits are better" |
Lord Arakkis
Vestige of Vehemence Dragon Swarm Dynasty
45
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Posted - 2012.08.30 18:15:00 -
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Maeltstome wrote:mxzf wrote:Solstice Project wrote:To the OP:
You should consider that you're not *actually* (aka: in the long run) helping people by giving them fittings to use.
Give a man a fish and he has food for a day, teach him how to fish and he has food for the rest of his life. This. If anything, randomly handing out fits without teaching what they're for and why they work hurts people. Not only does it not teach them to think for themselves, it teaches them not to think for themselves. Wrong. Seeing correct fits leads to udnerstand why they are correct then adjusting accordingly. My first rupture was a missile boat because i hung around with too many caldari. seeing some working fits made me go "hmm... maybe i should work out WHY those fits are better"
my point made as simple as it could be. Apologies if people thought I was ignorant, but i felt it was hard for people not to see this and react in a way to just perpetuate passive aggressiveness. Your still a child in the eyes of the universe |
mxzf
Blackened Skies
2076
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Posted - 2012.08.30 20:19:00 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:mxzf wrote:Solstice Project wrote:To the OP:
You should consider that you're not *actually* (aka: in the long run) helping people by giving them fittings to use.
Give a man a fish and he has food for a day, teach him how to fish and he has food for the rest of his life. This. If anything, randomly handing out fits without teaching what they're for and why they work hurts people. Not only does it not teach them to think for themselves, it teaches them not to think for themselves. Yes and no. As you might notice, I randomly throw out fits with impunity. Sometimes I include the logic behind them, sometimes I leave that to the reader to decipher. I don't mind answering questions that ask for a fit with an actual fit provided the parameters aren't absurd (and sometimes even when they are, but then the fits usually match that; see the Loki thread). Part of the reason for that is that an actual fit can engender specific questions and critiques (rather than the rather general parameters that usually serve to kick off such a thread). This can help get at a deeper understanding of the logic veterans take for granted. Honestly, I'm agnostic on the question in general. However, this thread in particular was a train wreck from the get-go and I've been intentionally leaving it alone. The level of ignorance on display in the OP plus the general attitude of subsequent follow-ups (see above ) have drained any usefulness out of this attempt. Maybe next time....
I do agree with you completely. Posting pre-made fits for people is definitely a great teaching tool. I was just pointing out that a thread full of fits with no context or explanation of why the fit is that way, simply there for copy-pasting into peoples hangers, does nothing to teach people. |
Maeltstome
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Intrepid Crossing
60
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Posted - 2012.08.31 08:43:00 -
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A while back i started a few random thread for cheaper ships (frigates and t1 cruisers) that had 'cookie-cutter' fits as part of the OP. This was aimed at newer player. People then posted a few fits of their own. I may start doing this again as i think it's easier to navigate shorter, specific threads than to pick through 20 pages for a ship you like to fly... |
Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
1119
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Posted - 2012.08.31 08:50:00 -
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OP,
I think you had a good idea, not sure why this got trolled down
Ship/type-specific fitting threads would be awesome, and reduce the amount of repeat questions.
Fits should be accompanied with reasoning behind them, and I'd maybe suggest moving PVE stuff to the PVE forum. Seeing all those CCCs and crap rechargers on innocent spaceships is detrimental to sanity and general well-being of EVE players.
Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman |
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