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Cyaxares II	Posted - 2011.03.02 10:52:00 - [31] Originally by: Breaker77 It might take a few days to get the API data though depending how many people are trying to pull it. no.
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2011.03.02 10:55:00 - [32] Originally by: Cyaxares II Originally by: Breaker77 It might take a few days to get the API data though depending how many people are trying to pull it. no. No as in bad API data or No as is you fail to realized the cooldown timers can go from minutes to 24 hours?
Cyaxares II	Posted - 2011.03.02 11:21:00 - [33] Edited by: Cyaxares II on 02/03/2011 11:22:09 Originally by: Breaker77 Originally by: Cyaxares II Originally by: Breaker77 It might take a few days to get the API data though depending how many people are trying to pull it. no. No as in bad API data or No as is you fail to realized the cooldown timers can go from minutes to 24 hours? no as in "The EVE API is a moving target and if you want to be an auditor you better keep track of any changes". See here (or here): Quote: Most pages will now return the cached data rather than an error if you query it too soon. This applies to the assets listing (among other things).
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.03.02 11:23:00 - [34] Quote: We learned that the forum mods don't actually know the rules, and just went with whatever tosh VV posted when he reported your thread The tosh I based my posts on, was a CCP mod reply to an ingame petition. I am sorry if it does not fly with you, exactly like EvE Central Bank does. But hey, at EBANK they call themselves "a private institution", so they don't do Cosmoray transparency anyway and don't have those privacy issues anyway, right? Quote: TBH, I could really care less, but it seems that everyone else wants it done and no one is willing to do it. I know you don't spare me any criticism but I am a good guy after all. So I will give you this advice: mail me first. - Auditing & consulting When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Misty McGinnity	Posted - 2011.03.02 11:29:00 - [35] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha The tosh I based my posts on, was a CCP mod reply to an ingame petition. Screenshot of petition or GTFO.
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.03.02 11:33:00 - [36] Originally by: Misty McGinnity Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha The tosh I based my posts on, was a CCP mod reply to an ingame petition. Screenshot of petition or GTFO. It's forbidden to post petitions. EvE Mail me from your main and I'll setup things in an EULA compliant way so you can see it. - Auditing & consulting When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Femaref Armageddon Day WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2011.03.02 11:59:00 - [37] API timers count per IP and page. So there is no problem for many people to pull the same pages, as long as they access it from different ips...
Cyaxares II	Posted - 2011.03.02 12:11:00 - [38] Edited by: Cyaxares II on 02/03/2011 12:16:10 Originally by: Femaref API timers count per IP and page. So there is no problem for many people to pull the same pages, as long as they access it from different ips... I pulled cosmoray's asset and wallet data into 2-3 different applications from the same IP without using a proxy. It just returns the cached data - same way the short cache style works.
Femaref Armageddon Day WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2011.03.02 12:58:00 - [39] Originally by: Cyaxares II Edited by: Cyaxares II on 02/03/2011 12:16:10 Originally by: Femaref API timers count per IP and page. So there is no problem for many people to pull the same pages, as long as they access it from different ips... I pulled cosmoray's asset and wallet data into 2-3 different applications from the same IP without using a proxy. It just returns the cached data - same way the short cache style works. Of course it does, that's how the asset page works. If somebody else were to pull it, he would get a new version.
cosmoray Cosmoray Holdings Corp	Posted - 2011.03.02 13:36:00 - [40] Why am I blocked from Signatures? I did not or even try to scam anybody last night. Read the forum log. I did give away some spare assets that I didn't need to the first person who responded to who "who wants some free stuff". Total was about 1B in a bunch of station containers. I then did plan on having 'potentially' giving away some ISK, but the person didn't play so he lost out. 1 other person sent me 500M ISK, and it was immediately sent back. The difference between what I did and the Jita "scam" was that I would have paid out.
Cista2 Hydra Investment Fund	Posted - 2011.03.02 14:19:00 - [41] Edited by: Cista2 on 02/03/2011 14:20:04 Originally by: cosmoray Why am I blocked from Signatures? I wasn't there, so I did not block you. But targetting a specific unknown person for some "dare" game involving billions of isk, what is your motivation for this sort of game? I have to say, that is bizarre behaviour for a business person. Do you see yourself as the new Curzon Dax?
Julian Koll The Kollektive	Posted - 2011.03.02 14:45:00 - [42] Originally by: cosmoray Why am I blocked from Signatures? Cause Signatures is for teh kool kids only
cosmoray Cosmoray Holdings Corp	Posted - 2011.03.02 14:53:00 - [43] The person I was offering the deal was begging for stuff after I gave some free stuff out. So I decided to have fun. Most of the people agreed it was a fun time Shame that having fun is to be frowned upon in a computer fantasy game.
Cista2 Hydra Investment Fund	Posted - 2011.03.02 14:56:00 - [44] You are unblocked btw. Signatures doesn't normally block players. We have 4-5 people blocked - apart from RawBlood I have no idea who the others are. ----------------------- "Signatures" trade chatroom / Universal Railways
Moto Akimoto	Posted - 2011.03.02 18:36:00 - [45] Last night on the Signatures Channel was one of the most fun I've had on Eve in a long time, not because I got some free stuff from Cosmoray (Thanks again) but because the chat between Cosmoray and Commander Godsmack was hilarious. Most of us are so paranoid on Eve that when an honest deal presents itself we pass up on the opportunity. I myself was skeptical of the "free stuff" at first, joking around that it was "Free rookiee ships in bulk" until I actually got the stuff from Cosmoray. That's when I realized it was a senior player being nice to newer players. Of course Godsmack didn't want to be victim of a scam and he wrote that the rest of us were in on the "scam". At one point Godsmack wrote to Cosmoray "I'm not going to send you my ISK solely based on a template scam from Jita". At which point I almost fell out of my chair with laughter. What would you have done if you were Godsmack and didn't know any of the players on the Signatures channel? I personally would off sent the ISK and taken the risk, but then again I began getting podded the first week I started playing Eve because I would fly around null sec in a shuttle just to see what it looked like.
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2011.03.02 18:44:00 - [46] Quote: I began getting podded the first week I started playing Eve because I would fly around null sec in a shuttle just to see what it looked like I hope you'll keep your freshness and your enterprising mood for a long time. Many lost them. But it's you who are right, not them. Including going to 0.0 in your first days. Cheap and effective learning. - Auditing & consulting When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2011.03.02 22:37:00 - [47] Originally by: Cyaxares II Quote: Most pages will now return the cached data rather than an error if you query it too soon. This applies to the assets listing (among other things). edit: you might also have missed that the limits for querying old journal/transaction data have been greatly expanded recently. Interesting on the cache timers. I was aware of the limits being changed, but unless I'm missing something, I've never been able to get EWA to pull more than 1000 entries and thats with the most recent version as of January 2011. The only API changes I am excited and/or worried about is the customizable API stuff CCP is working on. Quote: But I already told Breaker77 to read up on the API a long time ago (when he was doing audits and I displayed some serious doubts rgd his competency) I'm still waiting for your code to query the wallet API for journal walking. I told you I have no clue how to do the manual calls for that. So basically I'm saying proof or STFU. As far as me quering the API, if a readily available program won't pull the data for me, I'm not able to get it.
Selene D'Celeste Caldari The D'Celeste Trading Company ISK Six	Posted - 2011.03.03 01:05:00 - [48] So did anyone find out what the news is yet? ______________________________
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2011.03.03 01:15:00 - [49] Originally by: Selene D'Celeste So did anyone find out what the news is yet? That Cosmo's account was hacked while he was gone and he's really a transsexual? Thats the best news I can make up right now as tired as I am.
Hel O'Ween Men On A Mission	Posted - 2011.03.03 10:29:00 - [50] Originally by: Breaker77 [...] but unless I'm missing something, I've never been able to get EWA to pull more than 1000 entries and thats with the most recent version as of January 2011. You definately missing at least one, if not two updates to EWA. The current version was released on Feb 17th. One of those versions changed the way how EWA walks the journal API due to the underlaying change of the API itself. As for journal walking, start your first query with http://api.eveonline.com .... ?fromID=0&rowCount=256 Keep track of the lowest refID returned in that query and use it as the value to the fromID parameter http://api.eveonline.com .... ?fromID=<lowest refID returned in previous query>&rowCount=256 Do that until you get no more pages from the API or less than 256 entries in a page. -- EVEWalletAware - an offline wallet manager
Myra2007 Millstone Industries	Posted - 2011.03.03 12:12:00 - [51] Edited by: Myra2007 on 03/03/2011 12:13:00 Just for the fun of it I tried to pull some data but failed miserably. According to a program named eve-wallet aware you have ~24m in cash and your corp has 0 assets/isk and no transaction data. It also appears that you like Condors. I take it the program isn't up to date when it comes to the API. -- Originally by: Professor Slocombe I will only buy tickets if the prize is your stuff and you leave Eve. Forever. You irritating self obsessed cretin.
RAW23	Posted - 2011.03.03 12:48:00 - [52] Originally by: Myra2007 Edited by: Myra2007 on 03/03/2011 12:13:00 Just for the fun of it I tried to pull some data but failed miserably. According to a program named eve-wallet aware you have ~24m in cash and your corp has 0 assets/isk and no transaction data. It also appears that you like Condors. I take it the program isn't up to date when it comes to the API. This confirms Ray's findings on the previous page. It looks like the data you pulled was pretty accurate. So Cosmo, what's going on? Is this a scam or are you just farming drama? I remember you said a while back that you had closed down your other accounts. Is this still your only active one?
Myra2007 Millstone Industries	Posted - 2011.03.03 13:55:00 - [53] Originally by: RAW23 This confirms Ray's findings on the previous page. It looks like the data you pulled was pretty accurate. I believe that the data the program extracted was correct. However for instance I wasn't able to find the transaction Ray has posted about in the post you mention. I can only see the purchase of a Condor and some hybrids and ammo(in the personal transactions). I believe the reason is that the transaction in question is older than a week - in other words I suspect the program I'm using does not (correctly) support the journal/transaction walking feature discussed above. As such I believe that while I may have pulled some relevant data I wasn't able to pull all available data. Going from there the program could have other bugs i.e. I can't really trust what it is showing me. In any case Ray apparently used a program with working journal walking feature as he was able to pull older (and more interesting) transaction data. If I was someone who had vested interests in cosmoray's corp I'd definitely try to query the data myself. -- Originally by: Professor Slocombe I will only buy tickets if the prize is your stuff and you leave Eve. Forever. You irritating self obsessed cretin.
Myra2007 Millstone Industries	Posted - 2011.03.03 15:11:00 - [54] Ok, this was bugging me so I did some manual querying of the xml-data via browser and had a friend look over it who knows the api pretty well. From what I can tell the holdings corp really has 0 isk and no transaction data. I don't know how long exactly such data is saved (1 week?) but it would indicate that there has been no activity for some time. The only interesting data is in the wallet journal and it's the 1.7b transfer that has been posted. As for assets: none. In hindsight I must retract my statement about eve wallet aware being buggy. I was merely looking in the wrong place due to my inexperience with the api. As for the OP and his question: as the officially unofficial dilettante auditor of MD I'd have to say you didn't pass. You're dismissed. -- Originally by: Professor Slocombe I will only buy tickets if the prize is your stuff and you leave Eve. Forever. You irritating self obsessed cretin.
Hel O'Ween Men On A Mission	Posted - 2011.03.03 15:46:00 - [55] Originally by: Myra2007 According to a program named eve-wallet aware <Google mode> "Did you mean EVEWalletAware?" </Google mode> If that's to difficult, refer to it as "EWA". -- EVEWalletAware - an offline wallet manager
Myra2007 Millstone Industries	Posted - 2011.03.03 15:50:00 - [56] Originally by: Hel O'Ween If that's to difficult, refer to it as "EWA". No, it's not too difficult. I simply don't care. -- Originally by: Professor Slocombe I will only buy tickets if the prize is your stuff and you leave Eve. Forever. You irritating self obsessed cretin.
Selene D'Celeste Caldari The D'Celeste Trading Company ISK Six	Posted - 2011.03.03 16:53:00 - [57] For clarification on a line item from yesterday, the 3.15 Billion to and 2.0 Billion from Dark Audio (an EOH banker) would indicate winning a 1.05 game and losing a 2.10 game. In case anyone was curious. ______________________________
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2011.03.03 22:30:00 - [58] Originally by: Myra2007 Edited by: Myra2007 on 03/03/2011 12:13:00 Just for the fun of it I tried to pull some data but failed miserably. According to a program named eve-wallet aware you have ~24m in cash and your corp has 0 assets/isk and no transaction data. It also appears that you like Condors. I take it the program isn't up to date when it comes to the API. I can confirm this as well. His person all journal has 32 entries. It goes back to the beginning of february and shows his last cosmobond payout. I know from my own wallet journal that I received payments from him in jan, dec, and since his cosmobond opened. He also has no assets, and his corp is empty. He only transfered ISK from cosmoray to the corp account to pay divs. That only shows up for february as well. There are NO player donations from other characters other that what selence mentioned about EoH. I have no clue where all his ISK went Since there isn't a contract API there is no way to search for private contracts. My own opinion in the following statement: I would expect his offerings to default without any ISK to pay divs on them effective now, as they are due today.
Block Ukx Forge Laboratories	Posted - 2011.03.03 22:52:00 - [59] Originally by: Breaker77 Since there isn't a contract API there is no way to search for private contracts. Yes, you can search for contracts. You'll see the contract payment and involved parties; you just can't tell the content of the contract. BSAC Stock Exchange - EVE's only real-time stock exchange
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2011.03.03 22:59:00 - [60] Originally by: Block Ukx Originally by: Breaker77 Since there isn't a contract API there is no way to search for private contracts. Yes, you can search for contracts. You'll see the contract payment and involved parties; you just can't tell the content of the contract. Well if there are no entries in the journal for contracts, then none have taken place Otherwise, yes, you are correct.

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