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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2011.03.09 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: verybad Girl i mean bloddy hell spening roughly 7k bucks on eve isk wtf is wrong with you man
I imagine there are many irl well to do or rich players who wouldn't blink an eye at spending 2~7k on a game. Not saying its right or fair but it certainly explains why its so popular given that isk is the only real thing you have to grind for in the game to do the things you want.
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Patient 2428190 WoD = A terrible, cliche , unoriginal Pen and Paper game created for teenage nerds about vampires and werewolves.
Not quite.
àmaybe you just had a bad ST.
Quote: Innovation and vampires go together as well as fire and paper.
Surprising how well the two were combined in WoD then.
Nerd rage best rage imho.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.09 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Nerd rage best rage imho.
I suppose that is a good explanation for why he's so negative about it. Bad GMs/STs/DMs/whatevers can bring out that rage like few other things.
Which is why I prefer computer based rpg games be them turn based or real time over the traditional pnp. I thought I had died and gone to rpg heaven when the first gold box dnd games came out for the c64. Oh the glorious adventures my trusty party of six daring adventurers had plus you could let your friends play by passing the controller. No more dice rolls and charts and overbearing gm's! \o/
*waxes nostalgic*
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.09 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu I thought I had died and gone to rpg heaven when the first gold box dnd games came out for the c64. Oh the glorious adventures my trusty party of six daring adventurers had plus you could let your friends play by passing the controller. No more dice rolls and charts and overbearing gm's! \o/
*waxes nostalgic*
Pff. Wasteland > all, especially some silly D&D.
Yes there were many wonderful rpg games besides dnd. I just used it as an example as it was one of the first computer based translations that was better than the pnp equivalent. Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Janis Ezra Edited by: Janis Ezra on 09/03/2011 15:24:35
Originally by: Callum545 in case you all missed it
KiaDuplex 2995.94Ç KiaDuplex 1877.66Ç
I hate people like this Please CCP do something
Icarantus has the highscore! I mailed him this link. He said its not true and he wrote a petition
Cheater in denying guilt non-shocker.
Well not saying he is innocent but all we really have for proof is some fansite with heavy bias posting a list that anyone could makeup. And even if its an actual db crack nothing stopping some hated rivals to be included on the list just to get back at them. Given the highly political nature of the game that could be damaging enough to get a person kicked and put on permanent kos even without ccp lifting a finger about it.
Wheels within wheels within wheels.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2011.03.09 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis No-one's saying that anyone should be banned on the unsupported word of EveNews-24. However, the origin of this list, combined with the other information they gathered and presented to CCP would seem to make a good starting point for investigation.
If and when this occurs, it may well be that friend Icarantus has a few multi-billion ISK transfers from disposable ISK-mules to explain to the GMs.
If the GMs find said explainations unconvincing, then I presume you would agree that he should be appropriately penalised.
If Icarantus wants to take pre-emptive action to clear his name, then the well-known option of posting his full API is of course always open to him
Yes because he has nothing to hide he should feel perfectly fine to invite a full public scrutiny of his personal records. Since you also have nothing to hide why don't you post yours? So let ccp investigate and if he is guilty they will either ban him or nuke his wallet. Both of those effectively screw him over without going for the raging mob option.
Hrmmm, I swear I am hearing the sound of jackboots from somewhere.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2011.03.09 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis And seriously, did you just godwin this thread about MMO RMTing?
I tell you what, I'll make you a deal;
If he posts his full API in this thread and keeps that API active for 24 hours after he posts it, then I'll post mine for both my accounts.
Alternatively, we can both supply them to a mutually agreed trusted third party for RMT audit. But I'd prefer the public option, keeping things nice and transparent.
You can ask anyone in this game who knows me - I don't scam, I don't cheat, and I always keep my word.
How's that for a deal?
Still a bad deal. For all we know that alt that claimed to have mailed him the link to the thread and forwarded his reply is just another faceless troll looking to drum up some action. This is how you let the jackboots in by falling for unsupported accusations that are not backed up with solid proof. But hey he is an accused jew isk buyer after all so he must be guilty by default.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.10 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: dexington
The Copyright and Rights in Databases Regulations 1997
Before you go on saying the database was provided to CCP, you missed the GM correspondence that was posted in this thread, and removed, where a GM told the hacker they could not accept the database as it was obtained through illegal methods.
Actually the way the gm responces went it was pretty clever. At first the gm was like wow nice find send us the goods and we will reward you if it seems legit. Then after getting the goods there is a followup reply about whoops sorry guys this was illegally accuired so no rewards and we can't ermm 'officially' use it but thanks anyways.
Some clever monkeys over there it seems.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.10 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: knobber Jobbler ccp in theory could also easily shut down that isk seller. its been done by other publishers on multiple occasions.
You could in theory kill an entire ant colony squashing them one by one too. Might take a while though. CCP's efforts are best applied by punishing the buyers and figuring out ways to make the game less isk grindy so people feel less need to have to buy isk to compete.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2011.03.10 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: LHA Tarawa
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu figuring out ways to make the game less isk grindy so people feel less need to have to buy isk to compete.
You mean... like.... PLEX!
No. I mean like make the grind for isk fun and enjoyable and not the snore fest it currently is. Hire a couple of dedicated mission designers to crank out new missions each month and start an episodic epic mission arc that comes in installments every other month or such that has an ever evolving plotline that can be used to mirror current game events. Make pve fun and interesting again so you don't mind grinding for isk. Then most people won't feel the need to run bots or find some illegal isk seller with a good exchange rate to make the non pve parts of the game doable.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.10 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: LHA Tarawa
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu I mean like make the grind for isk fun and enjoyable and not the snore fest it currently is.
I'm sure the PVPers would disagree that more PVE content is what EVE needs.
I'm sure the pvpers who fund their pvp with pve would say you are wrong.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2011.03.10 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis Using this list will make the Russian Mafia enemies of CCP.
Of the ones you listed this is the only one that could concievably be construed as an effective threat. Whats that you say? The server farm in london was firebombed by some masked thugs who promptly dissapeared never to be seen again?
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.10 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: Rykuss Who needs reality television with threads like this?
What makes this far better than 'reality' tv is that the tears here are real.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.10 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound
Originally by: Linda Flamewalker
Originally by: Whitehound
Originally by: Malcanis ...
Your name is on this list.
I am sure you can point it out to us then.
I got it from an anonymous source:
Linda Flamewalker, $550 Malcanis, $750
pwnt
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2011.03.11 04:46:00 -
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All this thread needs now are some fist pumps and spray on tan to achieve epic status.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2011.03.11 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: Zhim''Fufu on 11/03/2011 16:48:16
Hrmmm, this is interesting. So far the rage seems to be directed at people who spend large amounts of cash to get isk so they can simply log in and do as they wish which infuriates the 'legit' players who have to grind for their isk and feel like they can't compete against the people who buy isk. Evenews24 is doing all it can to flame that rage it seems.
But on the page with the iskbank story..
Almost makes me wonder if they are going all out on this story to quell any competition for selling isk. And yes selling gtc is the same as selling isk. You just have to go through a few more steps to convert it is all.
So how about publishing your gtc purchaser list then evenews24 so we can see how much rl money players are spending on gtc to convert to isk.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.11 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Angst IronShard Iskies buyers and sellers should be banned out the game.
Include plex sellers and buyers too. I mean is there any real practical difference between the supercap blob that hotdropped you which was funded with illegaly bought isk vs legally bought isk?
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.11 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Originally by: Angst IronShard Iskies buyers and sellers should be banned out the game.
Include plex sellers and buyers too. I mean is there any real practical difference between the supercap blob that hotdropped you which was funded with illegaly bought isk vs legally bought isk?
There is, on the RMT side of things, many of those companies will readily sell your credit card number or use it themselves for nefarious purposes. On the legit side of things, it enables players to avoid paying the subscription fees if they have the ability to generate large amounts of isk on their own. While some people that fund their playtime with isk use bots, a lot of them don't.
Oh I totally realise that. I'm just amused at the outrage when this is legally done on a daily basis with plex is all. I mean I didn't realise so many people cared so deeply about ccp's profitability that they would get all upset when some outside company gets the money for the isk instead of ccp.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.11 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: dexington The fact the evenews24 released the list the way they did, probably only made it easier for the botters to start moving their assets, maybe even before CCP had time to decide how they where going to handle the situation. It would be funny if Riverini have been so eager to expose the list, it's likely he did'nt want to pass up the opportunity for evenews24 to get it's 5 seconds of fame, that all it results in a couple of bans and alot of warnings, while most of the people supplying and running iskbank just starts a new site and continue their business.
Yup. Which is why direct legal action against rmt operations are futile at best and always a total waste of money. As soon as the isk seller site gets a wiff of impending legal action they just close the corp and make a new one under a new name and move to a new low rent hole in the wall and setup shop. Sure ccp could maybe eventually track them down and get them into court but I shudder to think of the legal expences involved especially as its a multinational operation. Meanwhile the hundred other sites are merrily selling isk left and right. No, the best way is to find the buyers and nuke their wallet(no bans needed as a nuked wallet is bad enough) then track the sales and nullify the isk in the offending sellers accounts and give them the permaban. Which is what this list could have done if evenews had simply worked with ccp instead of going for the ratings.
But now the prey is aware and taking measures to keep ccp from catching them so gg evenews24.
Stick to publishing botting name lists and you will do well but leave the heavy thinking stuff to the people who have the actual ability to use the information as you are not helping at all with this particular story.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.11 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: riverini +10 to you sir!
That banner is up for sale for 2.5 bil per month, so far the referral thingy isn't nearly as good as the pamphlet said. , Luckly I got a pretty decent RL job and can afford the hosting costs comfortably or you thought what ever is gotten from GTC is for personal use? remember this site has 2 partners ^__^
Also u conveniently left out the fact that we don't personally sell GTCs (there is an hilarious post in kugu foreplay about that), still I loved ur conjectures.
I have no idea how profitable your gtc sales are and would not believe your claims if you said you were getting rich or losing your arse on the deal as I trust you about as much as any other random eve player with an agenda. I was just amused by it being on the same page as the story.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.11 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: dexington
The fact the evenews24 released the list the way they did, probably only made it easier for the botters to start moving their assets, maybe even before CCP had time to decide how they where going to handle the situation.
Doesn't matter if people running bots or doing RMT move their assets around. Even though "the logs show nothing", all that stuff would be a futile attempt since they can, and will, track down everything a suspect account has done, regardless if they open 1 new account to shift stuff to or 10. There is a little trail that can be followed regardless of what the player does.
Yes but ccp can't do a thing past banning the accounts if the isk sellers were warned the hammer is about to drop and ran a fire sale at deeply discounted prices to sell off the remaining isk before ccp could fully investigate.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.11 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: LHA Tarawa
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Originally by: Angst IronShard Iskies buyers and sellers should be banned out the game.
Include plex sellers and buyers too. I mean is there any real practical difference between the supercap blob that hotdropped you which was funded with illegaly bought isk vs legally bought isk?
One funded the company that develops and operates the game via a mechanism that lets thousands of people play for free(on someone elses dime), and the other funded a criminal enterprise and encourages the development of other distasteful things like botters.
I am aware of that. I personally don't have any issues with plex for isk sales as it does open the game up in a positive way for more players especialy time constrained ones who have the sp and personal skill to contribute to a corp but little time to grind for isk to get the stuff he needs to contribute.
But thats not what the rage is about on this subject.
It's about 'zomg someone spent 7k usd on isk and now my game is ruined because I feel I can't compete'. Utter horseshiat of course but internats spaceships is serious buisiness after all.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.11 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Barakkus They may be able to do something, but it would be difficult depending on the country of origin. http://www.trademarkandcopyrightlawblog.com/uploads/file/Bizzard%20Order_on_Trial.pdf
Blizzard is so rich they could sue the pope because they claim he looks like some random npc just for the publicity and lulz. CCP is not nearly that rich.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.11 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Mister Grumpy Buying a PLEX is allowed. RMT is not allowed. If you RMT you are a cheater.
In what way? As far as 'fair' gameplay is concerned there is no difference between legally and illegally purchased isk. The only fault is that you bought it illegally which is a problem for ccp and not the average player.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.11 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Mister Grumpy learn to read
Nice dodge. Now care to answer the question?
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.11 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Mister Grumpy I believe the answer is in the first sentence of my post. The rules of the game are in the EULA. If you break it, you are a cheater. You may not like it, but you agreed to those terms when you started the account.
Is this plain enough for you to understand?
Cheating implies gaining an unfair advantage over others. So again care to explain how illegally purchased isk gives a player an unfair advantage over one who buys it legally? If you cannot do this then your first sentence is false.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.11 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Mister Grumpy
Originally by: Whitehound Edited by: Whitehound on 11/03/2011 19:48:29
Originally by: Mister Grumpy learn to read
The topic is about a large list of player names, who did not run bots, but may have bought ISKs from people who do. So while your way of seeing a problem is plain and simple are you looking at the wrong problem.
No, this topic is that a list of possible cheaters has been released. You are trying to confuse the issue every way you can, but you are making yourself look suspicious and foolish. Cheaters need to be expelled from the game. Period.
It is not our place to decide if these people are guilty or not. That is CCP's job. But bottom line, if they are cheaters, they should be gone immediately and finally. Not for a day, not for 3 days, but for good. It is not a grey area or a complicated issue. Cheaters should NOT be allowed in the game.
I have nothing else to say on this topic.
So you can't explain it eh? Again, nice dodge.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.11 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: Mister Grumpy
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Originally by: Mister Grumpy I believe the answer is in the first sentence of my post. The rules of the game are in the EULA. If you break it, you are a cheater. You may not like it, but you agreed to those terms when you started the account.
Is this plain enough for you to understand?
Cheating implies gaining an unfair advantage over others. So again care to explain how illegally purchased isk gives a player an unfair advantage over one who buys it legally? If you cannot do this then your first sentence is false.
Because buying isk from a RMT is against the rules we all agreed to when we started playing this game. Again, please, I beg you, read the rules.
I don't care if this was plain enough or not, because I am done posting in this thread.
I never said buying illegal isk shouldn't be punished. I have stated several times that nuking their wallets is the best method for discouraging future transgressions whilst keeping a potentially valuable player in the game. To call it cheating however is just plain incorrect. So tell me this. If breaking the eula is universally cheating then are the guys who rip the graphics and sounds to put in a different game cheating you the eve player? Thats also breaking the eula.
I really want to hear this one.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.11 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: captain foivos Zhim, you're a terrible troll. Trying to redefine what cheating is doesn't work when, lo and behold--
I post the dictionary definition of cheating.
And you are a terrible backup alt troll.
Originally by: Online Dictionary
ûverb (used without object) 4. to practice fraud or deceit: She cheats without regrets. 5. to violate rules or regulations: He cheats at cards.
:oops: Pertaining to 4. To practice fraud or deceit is to gain an unfair advantage over others be it scamming them out of money or abusing power gained from said fraudulent activities. Buying isk be it illegal or legal does not satisfy that condition as its still isk and has no special added value from being purchased illegally.
Pertaining to 5. The whole reason you don't want rules and regulations broken is to protect something. In the case of isk its protecting ccp's profits and not the players gaming enviroment.
:oops:
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Posted - 2011.03.11 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: captain foivos
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu To call it cheating however is just plain incorrect.
Get the **** out, sir.
So I'll pose the same question to you as to mister grumpy. How is isk that is bought illegally giving a player an unfair advantage over a player who bought it legally? If Incarantus had dropped 7k on gtc would he be a cheater then? Seems the stuff it buys is exactly the same so I'm simply not making the connection.
But please enlighten me.
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Posted - 2011.03.11 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Barakkus Unfortunately Zhim's definition is also acceptable.
Unfortunately?
Hey I'm all for ccp punishing them for putting rl monies into the bot farmers hands but no matter what its still not cheating.
Originally by: Torlin Valric I assume you get more isk for your money when buying at a site who sells isk compared to buying gtc. If that is true then you get an unfair advantage over those who play by the rules and buy only gtc.
I would call that cheating
Thats a good point but you don't get very much more isk from the rmters than you do from converting a gtc unless you buy in bulk. So about the only way to really make that difference stand out is to drop some major money on it to get the mass purchase effect. For the vast majority of buyers on that list they bought less than $100 in isk so that would hardly convey any tangable benefit over plex isk.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.12 05:24:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Thats a good point but you don't get very much more isk from the rmters than you do from converting a gtc unless you buy in bulk. So about the only way to really make that difference stand out is to drop some major money on it to get the mass purchase effect. For the vast majority of buyers on that list they bought less than $100 in isk so that would hardly convey any tangable benefit over plex isk.
Ah, so cheating is okay so long as you only cheat a little bit?
Got it.
No, I said that the difference between the average plex isk purchase and the average rmt isk purchase is about the same so anyone trying to say that zomg you get an unfair advantage by purchasing rmt isk is just splitting hairs. But go ahead and spin it any way you wish as its all pretty much irrelevant because ccp has the final say on any potential punishment. Now to be fair if you dropped some major rl monies on rmt isk you can easily get double or more than you get from plex but again that is only relevant to a tiny portion of the ones on that list.
Let the witchhunt continue though as it seems to be the gd totm.(topic of the moment)
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.12 07:00:00 -
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Originally by: Alty McExpendable You really don't get it, do you.
P.S. keep posting the B.S.
wtf does that have to do with anything in this thread?
Here let me state it in clear terms with no amusing but irrelevant youtube antics thrown in.
The ship that you bought with rmt isk that you used to blow up some other players ship is no different than the ship you bought with plex isk that you used to blow up some other players ship. Both ships were purchased with rl monies. Both ships have exactly the same stats. Both ships could care less if you bought them with rmt isk or plex isk or mission grinding isk or trade isk or any form of isk.
Period.
You can split hairs all day long but its simply not true.
Now yet again is it right that people buy rmt isk? Of course not for many many many valid reasons. But cheating is not one of them.
I gleefully await the next suicide post.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.14 00:13:00 -
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This thread is the best thing to happen to the gd in ages. So much hilarity.
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Posted - 2011.03.14 04:55:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona Which begs the question, why isn't CCP suing iskbank?
Because its extremely hard to sue a couple of guys with laptops that bounce from low rent hole in the wall to low rent hole in the wall playing rl corp hopping to avoid the warde..err legal charges.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.14 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ingvar Angst So that's one dealt with for sure. If you're on the list then you ARE bolloxed.
Why do I get the feeling more lists are going to turn up now. Lists that may or may not actually be legit.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.14 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Othran
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Originally by: Ingvar Angst So that's one dealt with for sure. If you're on the list then you ARE bolloxed.
Why do I get the feeling more lists are going to turn up now. Lists that may or may not actually be legit.
If they are dated and have isk amounts on them then its pretty easy to check initial validity VERY fast.
I guess Whitehound posted too much recently - hence you coming back to spread FUD Mr Alt.
Spin on. Nobody believes you or he have "altruistic" reasons for your "contributions"
If you seriously think a crapton of players are not right now trying to come up with ways to post a 'legit' list of rtm buyers so they will be harrassed ingame you are either trolling or one of the crapton of players looking to take advantage of this 'rmt rage' for their own purposes.
I leave it to our noble readers to figure out which is which.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2011.03.14 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: Whitehound
Originally by: baltec1 Interesting way to put your argument as to why everyone but you is wrong, please do go on...
More tears, please!!!
You are doing this so very wrong.
And yet people still reply. Hell we are at page 31 so far so whats that olde adage about trolls and feeding?
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.14 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1 Reasons on why sending CCP a fake list is a bad idea.
1. CCP will check and will know if you just sent a fake list
2. The person who sent the fake list would at best get a warning and at worst get a ban.
3. ANY credibility said player had before will forever be gone.
For a member of the goonies you sure don't think like one.
*ahem*
1. Vengeful botting corp sets up new rmt site and starts collecting names with all the normal identifing goodies.
2. Vengeful botting corp seeds in the names of players they don't like with made up card details and sends them a large amount of isk when they are known to be inactive for a while.
3. Vengenful botting corp 'leaks' list through a fansite who then posts it on the official forums hoping the targeted players get ingame reprisals for being dirty rmt buyers.
4. ???
5. lulz ensues.
It will happen if it hasn't already.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.14 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1 A cunning plan with just one flaw. CCP follows the isk trail back to whence it came so you might end you getting yourself banned along with the victim
It would work if you are rich and rage quitting
I'm sorry, I should have said sacrificial rmt site using throwaway botting alts. You know, they way they already operate to reduce the hit from getting caught? But what ccp does is irrelevant. It would be done to ruin a players ingame credibility as ccp will never ever ever publicly confirm or deny any action or non-action they take on any investigations they do.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.15 07:17:00 -
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Originally by: Obsidian Hawk This could be post 1000 if the forum mods delete the troll posts.
That would mean there are only 3 troll posts. I think you may have miscounted.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.15 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Horizonist /me turns on the fan to cool the atmosphere
Bah, that will just blow the stink around.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.15 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound Chances are CCP will not do anything publicly about this list.
fixed
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.15 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Avon If they are guilty they should be banned.
I'm all for those proven to have purchased isk from this site to be punished but why banning? Not to say those who dropped thousands of rl dollars shouldn't at least get a 6 month ban or even a permaban but there are hundreds and hundreds of players on that list that only bought a little isk. Seems to me those could have been players who didn't know it was illegal to buy isk as most players do not read the forums or any of the rules after they join and then found out afterwards and never bought any again. Nuke their wallets for sure and make sure they know that they shouldn't do that again or face a lenghty ban or permaban. Then there are those that probably knew it was illegal but in a moment of weakness during an especially good firesale they dropped a $20 on some isk to get that nice mission faction ship they always wanted. Dunno about you but I like to give people a second chance as we are all human after all.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Posted - 2011.03.15 20:47:00 -
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Whitehound-><-Tippia
Ladies, please.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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