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Glando Nikal
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Posted - 2011.03.10 10:54:00 -
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My issue is with people who scan down my mission site and start salvaging my wrecks while i'm still running the mission. My proposal is that salvaging a wreck should be the same as looting a wreck. if someone doesn't want them they can be abandoned. if they do want them it gives them a chance to keep them.
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Korg Leaf
Time Bandits. Waterboard
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Posted - 2011.03.10 11:08:00 -
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Yeh why not, and then when all the missioners like you shoot the ninja salvager and they come back and pop your expensive mission ship can you not come and ask for it to be changed back.
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XXSketchxx
Gallente Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2011.03.10 12:11:00 -
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Why are you assuming the wrecks are yours?
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar Self Preservation Society the 2nd Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2011.03.10 13:51:00 -
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Not this again.
CCP has stated time and time again that salvaging works exactly the way they intended it to work. They aren't stealing your salvage, because it's not yours until you turn on a salvager and suck it up into your hold.
Frankly, what they need to do to stop all this crap is separate the loot can from the wreck - make all wrecks immediately blue, and the loot cans are owned. --Vel
Originally by: Blacksquirrel
This is EVE. PVE can happen anywhere at anytime. Be prepared.
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Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari draketrain Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.03.10 17:24:00 -
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Disable ownership for anything unanchored in space.
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mkmin
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Posted - 2011.03.10 18:53:00 -
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I would really love if it returned to the way it was, where it was harder to be probed down if you were inside a mission complex. Now any douche in a T1 frig can probe out a mission runner and make more isk than if he'd found an actual complex.
Salvage thieves are an annoying hassle. It's too easy to do. But I don't think giving aggression rights for salvaging is a good idea.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.03.10 22:27:00 -
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Per CCP Mitnal: Originally by: CCP Mitnal "Our policy on this is extremely clear... Salvaging is a mini-profession within EVE and does not constitute stealing."
Per GM Faolchu : Originally by: GM Faolchu Salvaging other peoples wrecks.... This is an intended game mechanic and is in no way an exploit. People salvaging your missions npcs or the player you just blew up are doing nothing wrong. The players are salvaging what is effectively floating rubbish in space and Concord places no value on this wreckage. Eve is a harsh place you won't always have everything go your way, its a do or die world and people do what they can to get along. If salvaging some wreckage gets them a few more ISK someone will do it, it doesn't matter who just blew it up.
Per Senior GM Ytterbium : Originally by: GM Ytterbium Players are still completely free to salvage other pilot wrecks at will ... and doing so is not considered as an exploit.
Per CCP Prism X : Originally by: CCP Prism X Why is stealing salvage OK? It's not. It shouldn't even be possible to move an item from your cargo-hold / hanger to another persons cargo-hold / hanger without opening a trade window. Before the salvage enters those containers it is not considered your stuff by the server code. Hence it's not stealing.
Per CCP Incognito : Originally by: CCP Incognito Had a chat with some designers this evening. Ninja salvaging is intended game play. It was always intended that the wrecks are public, the loot is private. They do not see it as a problem if others salvage your wrecks.
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Malcanis
Alcohlics Anonymous Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.10 22:41:00 -
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Edited by: Malcanis on 10/03/2011 22:42:03 As per my new policy, I support this proposal, as well as the hilarity that will result.
EDIT: And by hilarity, I mean the wrecks of foolish mission-runner ships.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
De'Veldrin
Minmatar Self Preservation Society the 2nd Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2011.03.11 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis Edited by: Malcanis on 10/03/2011 22:42:03 As per my new policy, I support this proposal, as well as the hilarity that will result.
EDIT: And by hilarity, I mean the wrecks of foolish mission-runner ships.
What's the new policy, Mal? I might be interested in subscribing to it too, if it's amusing enough. --Vel
Originally by: Blacksquirrel
This is EVE. PVE can happen anywhere at anytime. Be prepared.
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XXSketchxx
Gallente Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2011.03.11 03:23:00 -
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Originally by: De'Veldrin
Originally by: Malcanis Edited by: Malcanis on 10/03/2011 22:42:03 As per my new policy, I support this proposal, as well as the hilarity that will result.
EDIT: And by hilarity, I mean the wrecks of foolish mission-runner ships.
What's the new policy, Mal? I might be interested in subscribing to it too, if it's amusing enough.
I'm assuming to support the proposal that salvaging flags you to the "owner" and thus resulting in an aggression timer. Loot steal baiting meet salvage steal baiting. Killmails to follow.
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Selinate
Amarr Red Water Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.03.11 04:47:00 -
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never understood baiting in high sec.......
I'm going to try it today in a mining system, ty.
Also, I've ninja salvaged before. The funniest part? seems like 75% of the time, instead of hitting a player, I'd hit a bot in a mission. They didn't particularly care if I thieved from them
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Centri Sixx
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Posted - 2011.03.11 06:12:00 -
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What hilarity? Mission runner shoots you, your salvage boat escapes, they dock up and bring their own PvP ship out and gank the hell out of you because you think all mission runners are carebears. Or they dock up, come out in a cheap frig, let you nail them kill rights, and hunt you down when you are salvaging or transporting goods.
Yes, please change it.
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Korg Leaf
Time Bandits. Waterboard
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Posted - 2011.03.11 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: Centri Sixx What hilarity? Mission runner shoots you, your salvage boat escapes, they dock up and bring their own PvP ship out and gank the hell out of you because you think all mission runners are carebears. Or they dock up, come out in a cheap frig, let you nail them kill rights, and hunt you down when you are salvaging or transporting goods.
Yes, please change it.
There wouldnt be any kill rights if they shoot you, only if he ganks you.
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wolf419
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Posted - 2011.03.11 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: mkmin I would really love if it returned to the way it was, where it was harder to be probed down if you were inside a mission complex. Now any douche in a T1 frig can probe out a mission runner and make more isk than if he'd found an actual complex.
Salvage thieves are an annoying hassle. It's too easy to do. But I don't think giving aggression rights for salvaging is a good idea.
well said makes no sence to give them another way to bait people only thing to do is make it harder to scan them down i myself and pretty good at scanning but i dont mess with missioners i would rather hit a complex and get much better salvage and loot if any thing ccp should give more incentive to run complexes in highsec as of now they are far and few between for any decent ones in the years that i have been playing i have been scaning for about 2 mabe 3 months and only scanned down 1 decent complexso i say lets increase the sawn rate of them or give corps a and alliances a low or nullsec system off highsec of there own to work with free from invasion oh wait cant do that pvp wine fest there x960.jpg |
Malcanis
Caldari Alcohlics Anonymous Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.11 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: De'Veldrin
Originally by: Malcanis Edited by: Malcanis on 10/03/2011 22:42:03 As per my new policy, I support this proposal, as well as the hilarity that will result.
EDIT: And by hilarity, I mean the wrecks of foolish mission-runner ships.
What's the new policy, Mal? I might be interested in subscribing to it too, if it's amusing enough.
Give them what they ask for and then laugh cruelly as they regret it forever.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
De'Veldrin
Self Preservation Society the 2nd Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2011.03.11 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: De'Veldrin
Originally by: Malcanis Edited by: Malcanis on 10/03/2011 22:42:03 As per my new policy, I support this proposal, as well as the hilarity that will result.
EDIT: And by hilarity, I mean the wrecks of foolish mission-runner ships.
What's the new policy, Mal? I might be interested in subscribing to it too, if it's amusing enough.
Give them what they ask for and then laugh cruelly as they regret it forever.
I'm down with that. --Vel
Originally by: Blacksquirrel
This is EVE. PVE can happen anywhere at anytime. Be prepared.
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Korg Leaf
Time Bandits. Waterboard
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Posted - 2011.03.11 14:53:00 -
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Forgot to support before
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