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Maddox Yung
Rising Ashes Inc. Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.03.19 18:58:00 -
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This is a request for all shipyards, weapons and ship designers, to attempt to create improved variations of existing Tier 3 battleships, Hyperion, Mealstrom, Abbaddon and Rokh.
These magnificent monsters have been the prime example of military engineering since they were first seen and i personally think they need an upgrade. Tech two or Navy variations of these beautiful beasts, could well end up being the prime goals of many capsuleers, and replace the Drake as the staple warship choice.
I move for a vote concerning this decision.
Tech 2 Tier 3 battleships, yes or no? ***********************
A Warrior Of The Collective
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Yazus Kor
Kotharat Logistics
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Posted - 2011.03.19 23:33:00 -
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Good God, stop posting.
"Beware, you who seek first and final principles, for you are trampling the garden of an angry God and he awaits you just beyond the last theorem." |
Veronique Devereaux
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Posted - 2011.03.20 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: Yazus Kor Good God, stop posting.
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Maddox Yung
Rising Ashes Inc. Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.03.20 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: Yazus Kor Good God, stop posting.
do i know you?
no.
i dont give a bakers **** who you are. i asked a simple question and let it be heard the the intelligent people around here, i didnt say anything to you.
shut it or go ***** on someone else. if you wanna emo scream at someone, go **** on that ***** Niraia. she deserves it. ***********************
A Warrior Of The Collective
We Are The Machine |
Dodge Abasi
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Posted - 2011.03.20 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Yazus Kor Good God, stop posting.
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Nikita Alterana
Risen Angels
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Posted - 2011.03.20 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Yazus Kor Good God, stop posting.
Nikita's Graphic Arts Studio
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Kazzzi
Amarr Heathen Legion Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2011.03.20 02:33:00 -
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It would require an almost impossibly immense engineering venture, but I believe most of the cluster, myself included, would favor the availability of those four ships refit with advanced systems developed from moon resources.
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2011.03.20 05:44:00 -
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Originally by: Maddox Yung <An inflammatory remark towards the rather funny and awesome Comrade Niraia>
I find it funny you try to reach out "the intelligent people around here" and yet cannot express yourself in anything more civil and intelligent than vulgarity. Please try again.
But at any rate
I agree with the call for tech-two variants of the more advanced battleships. A tech-two Abaddon would truly be monstrous.
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Alica Wildfire
Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency Section 42
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Posted - 2011.03.20 12:42:00 -
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A tech 2 Abbadon as an ungankable mining vessel would be something the market would demand. Put a lot of mining circuits on it, advanced armor and cargo room and that'll be fine. -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
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Niraia
Zaratha Zarati Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2011.03.20 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: Yazus Kor Good God, stop posting.
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Akrasjel Lanate
Gallente Naquatech Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.03.20 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Yazus Kor Good God, stop posting.
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival Naraka.
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Posted - 2011.03.20 13:34:00 -
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Perhaps the better idea than to post here would be to contact the people in charge directly, as it is unlikely they see this request.
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2011.03.20 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Alica Wildfire A tech 2 Abbadon as an ungankable mining vessel would be something the market would demand. Put a lot of mining circuits on it, advanced armor and cargo room and that'll be fine.
As someone who mines, I think that'd be pretty cool. But then, what stops one from simply fitting a normal Abaddon for mining? Granted the lack of cargo space isn't appealing for such a task, but then you could use the technique known as "jetcan mining".
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Alica Wildfire
Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency Section 42
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Posted - 2011.03.20 17:42:00 -
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Yeah this vessel would outdate jetcan mining. Of cause you could also make a t2 "roadblock" Abbadon. A vessel that is insanely slow, has insane tank, can be anchored like a capital vessel in siege mode and is almost instantly out of capacitor for that but has no damage. Waitą it's already fulfilling this specification.
We better aim for the mining battleship. It could have external joints where you can clip jetcans on. And of cause it should have some loudspeakers to all sides where it plays the corals that make me so sick everytime I'm so unlucky to dock on Amarrian stations. To the greatness of the Empire. -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2011.03.20 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Alica Wildfire Edited by: Alica Wildfire on 20/03/2011 18:01:47 Yeah this vessel would outdate jetcan mining. Of cause you could also make a t2 "roadblock" Abbadon. A vessel that is insanely slow, has insane tank, can be anchored like a capital vessel in siege mode and is almost instantly out of capacitor for that and the pilot starts whining about cap and is going on the nerves of the logistic pilots but has no damage. Waitą it's already fulfilling this specification.
We better aim for the mining battleship. It could have external joints where you can clip jetcans on. And of cause it should have some loudspeakers to all sides where it plays the corals that make me so sick everytime I'm so unlucky to dock on Amarrian stations. To the greatness of the Empire.
Alica whistles the well known Matari tune "Pink is the colour of the Carebears ship in the morning when they mine - in the morning when they mine! That's the time - that's the time, we gank the bestą"
Pfft, I don't know about all that mess. The Abaddon is a great combat juggernaut, but a mining variant would have to be uniquely different. The standard Abaddon's armor is great, but a bit more speed is needed in order to get within range of the asteroids to mine them. This would require more power and flops of computational ability, which would likely restrict a "mining Abaddon" from fitting anything other than strip-mining lasers; regular turrets would likely be impossible to fit.
Personally, since I live (and thus mine in) lowsec, I like faster mining ships. The Scythe comes to mind.
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Ugleb
Minmatar Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2011.03.20 22:56:00 -
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Edited by: Ugleb on 20/03/2011 23:01:51
Originally by: Maddox Yung Tech two or Navy variations of these beautiful beasts, could well end up being the prime goals of many capsuleers, and replace the Drake as the staple warship choice.
I'm fascinated by the notion that a battleship class costing easily hundreds of millions would supplant the popularity of a Battlecruiser costing around a mere thirty million.
'Marauder' class Battleships remain a relative rarity and are seldom used in Capsuleer engagements, while the 'Black Ops' class fulfils a niche support role. Why should a larger and thus even more expensive class find such popularity?
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ion496
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Posted - 2011.03.21 02:15:00 -
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Originally by: Yazus Kor Good God, stop posting.
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Benjamin Shepherd
Caldari Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2011.03.21 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: Yazus Kor Good God, stop posting.
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Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.03.21 05:19:00 -
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Sub-capital. Fighter. Carrier.
I get shivers just thinking about a fleet of those...
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Alica Wildfire
Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency Section 42
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Posted - 2011.03.21 08:40:00 -
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Edited by: Alica Wildfire on 21/03/2011 08:43:35 I do not know what is worrying me most. That people really take my sarcastic proposal to make a T2 mining battleship for real or that no Amarr is offended when I call their ships big fat chunks of armor in space that do not move, whine for cap and do no damage.
There are some Amarr at least that do not whine for cap, which I want to say to rescue their honor. And even if I find lasers more something entertaining than dangerous there have been the one or other loss to them. You should not stand still and wait until they track you. That's for sure.
Mining t2 battleship. Yay!
We have a Black Ops role, which is something like a mini-Titan. We have a Marauder, which does insane damage and helps to carebear the wrecks and which has so lousy sensors that a frigate can compete and is therefor not good for real battle.
There are capitals for the next class of drones and weapons.
We do not need another logistic ship, which role is taken by logistics well enough. We do not need command ships because we have it already. The role of subcapital fighter bomber carriers just outclass the role of drone carriers that we have and is just outdating the ships there are.
To build battleships like this will cost New Eden a lot of ISK and a huge percentage of overall income. If there are no good ideas we drop it or come back to the mining Abaddon battleship, which I find, now that I take a second look on the idea, intriguing.
A ship that is a flying insult to the Empire and that is causing cancer by even thinking about it. Let's seriously work on that. -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
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Lucius Vindictus
Amarr East Khanid Trading
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Posted - 2011.03.21 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: Alica Wildfire Edited by: Alica Wildfire on 21/03/2011 08:43:35 I do not know what is worrying me most. That people really take my sarcastic proposal to make a T2 mining battleship for real or that no Amarr is offended when I call their ships big fat chunks of armor in space that do not move, whine for cap and do no damage.
Well, Alica... We have been making fun of your ships for so long now that it wouldn't be fair if we didn't grant you a good laugh at your own imaginary ship.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.03.21 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Yazus Kor Good God, stop posting.
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Yoshitaka Moromuo
Distant Light Galactic Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2011.03.21 14:37:00 -
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Edited by: Yo****aka Moromuo on 21/03/2011 14:37:18 This is not the appropriate venue for this discussion. So, to reuse an already overused phrase: "Good God, stop posting!"
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Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.03.21 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Lucius Vindictus
Originally by: Alica Wildfire
no Amarr is offended when I call their ships big fat chunks of armor in space that do not move, whine for cap and do no damage.
Flying bricks. Have you ever been hit by a flying brick?
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Leopold Caine
Amarr Stillwater Corporation
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Posted - 2011.03.21 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Maddox Yung
Tech 2 Tier 3 battleships, yes or no?
No.
Originally by: Alica Wildfire I do not know what is worrying me most. That people really take my sarcastic proposal to make a T2 mining battleship for real or that no Amarr is offended when I call their ships big fat chunks of armor in space that do not move, whine for cap and do no damage.
I'd be worried about people not taking you seriously, but then again, it's kind of too late for that now.
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Ava Starfire
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2011.03.21 23:57:00 -
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What?
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2011.03.22 02:15:00 -
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It was a decent conversation while it lasted.
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Maddox Yung
Rising Ashes Inc. Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.03.22 04:58:00 -
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Originally by: Rek Jaiga It was a decent conversation while it lasted.
what?
what conversation? there was no conversaton here.
the only thing i heard in this posts was "Good God, Stop Posting."
the only thing i saw here was rudeness, abrasion and an excuse to **** me off. Look, i dont give a mothers **** what you people think. Youre Elitists. Im a noob. Im not gonna bother trying to fit into your world, since obviously im not welcome.
Goodbye, and have fun in hell. ***********************
A Warrior Of The Collective
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Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.03.22 05:08:00 -
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Originally by: Maddox Yung
Goodbye, and have fun in hell.
I escaped Providence years ago. (Just kidding CVA...)
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