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Ariz Black
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Posted - 2011.03.19 19:11:00 -
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Remove level 4 agents from highsec. Levels 4 and 5 should be only 0.4 and down. Oh look, suddenly lots of people have a reason to leave carebearland.
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Chesty McJubblies
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.03.19 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ariz Black Remove level 4 agents from highsec. Levels 4 and 5 should be only 0.4 and down. Oh look, suddenly lots of people have a reason to leave carebearland Eve.
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Dorian Tormak
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Posted - 2011.03.19 19:13:00 -
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Exactly what I was thinking when I said "nerf highsec" in another forum a while ago.
No one listened I think it good idea tho
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Ariz Black
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Posted - 2011.03.19 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Chesty McJubblies
carebearland Eve.
If people leave over this, I won't miss them. They were trying to singleplayer in an MMO? This is not the kind of player EVE needs.
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Janos Saal
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Posted - 2011.03.19 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ariz Black If people leave over this, I won't miss them.
CCP will.
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rofflesausage
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Posted - 2011.03.19 19:18:00 -
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Lost count how many times this has been over...
It wouldn't work. Low-sec needs fundamental changes for this to be even viable. No mission runner with a brain is going to undock with a PvE ship (which has inherent fitting issues when coming up against a PvP ship in space) to get blown up.
Those without a brain would undock, get blown up and not bother coming back to Eve.
Go and read one of the other million threads on it. It's boring now.
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Hide Yokids
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Posted - 2011.03.19 19:20:00 -
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Oh I get it, you would grief the so called carebears by warping to them during a mission and popping/ransoming/stealing loot from them! This sounds like so much fun!
Not. I don't want to have to bring an entire fleet with me just so I can do some level 4s. And that would render my Paladin pretty much useless, since I wouldn't risk losing something so expensive to some random douchebag.
BUT GUIS! TEARZ R SO FNNY!
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Jamoan
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2011.03.19 19:22:00 -
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If they did to this, nothing would happen. Level 4 would become like level 5. Level 3 missions would become the new level 4. |
Kate Yeats
Caldari ROGUE DR0NE RECONDITIONING CENTER
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Posted - 2011.03.19 19:24:00 -
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Edited by: Kate Yeats on 19/03/2011 19:25:06
Originally by: Ariz Black Remove level 4 agents from highsec. Levels 4 and 5 should be only 0.4 and down. Oh look, suddenly lots of people have a reason to leave carebearland.
So your solution for fixing low-sec relies on the risk-adverse throwing caution to wind and migrating in droves to fly around the most dangerous areas of space in their billlion ISK+ ships.
Nope, no problem there. |The Drones are coming| |
Ariz Black
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Posted - 2011.03.19 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Jamoan Level 4 would become like level 5. Level 3 missions would become the new level 4.
Nullsec ratting might actually give more isk than hisec missioning though.
EVE is all about risk vs reward and level 4 is totally in contradiction to this idea.
You can do level 4 easily enough in an unscannable ship anyway but at least it adds some danger in getting attacked at the station...
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Chesty McJubblies
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.03.19 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Janos Saal
Originally by: Ariz Black If people leave over this, I won't miss them.
CCP will.
This. I'm not sure you missing them is of any consequence to anyone at all.
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Chesty McJubblies
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.03.19 19:30:00 -
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Edited by: Chesty McJubblies on 19/03/2011 19:31:22
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Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2011.03.19 19:32:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmatiko on 19/03/2011 19:34:24 Great idea! I also suggest removal of all anomalies, rats, complexes and expeditions from null-sec space. Pro-pvpers should only pvp in 0.0
Oh wait. After last "box removal from drone 10/10" there was so many tears from true-pvp-nullsec-citizens.
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.03.19 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ariz Black Remove level 4 agents from highsec. Levels 4 and 5 should be only 0.4 and down. Oh look, suddenly lots of people have a reason to leave carebearland.
The only change lo sec needs is for the residents there to adjust their attitude and stop whoring killmails and sucking their space dry from players. And when your targets leave you come to the forums to ***** and whine that no one wants to come and constantly get shot by you and lose their assets and isk anymore and CCP should force them to anyway.
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |
Ariz Black
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Posted - 2011.03.19 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmatiko I think OP is just scared enough to participate in normal 0.0
actually you're totally misreading. all i do is nullsec small-gang pvp, defending our few systems of sov. what i am saddened by is that when i go to rat once a week to pay for ammo for my pewpew, i would make more by jumpcloning to hisec and running 4's than i can make by ratting/anomalies in null.
nullsec is higher risk, it should carry higher reward. where is the justification for hisec earnings being on par with nullsec earnings? in ccp's profit margins? well **** them.
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Apollo Gabriel
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2011.03.19 19:55:00 -
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OP,
Are you trying to have a real conversation? or are you trolling? Do you ACTUALLY believe that a MISSION fit ship will risk pvp? Sadly those worlds are very different in the world of EVE. If you move lv 4s to low, then level 3s will be what people do, or they'll quit. I can understand WHY you want this change, but there needs to be a REASON other than single player pve to go to low sec.
Let's talk about those instead, AG
***** Signature may appear without warning! ***** Please do not feed the trolls, it builds dependency.
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Ariz Black
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Posted - 2011.03.19 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Apollo Gabriel I can understand WHY you want this change, but there needs to be a REASON other than single player pve to go to low sec.
again, because at the moment hisec income = nullsec income > losec income. it should be nullsec income > losec income > hisec income.
pve ships would still pve, people would just learn to fit eccm and **** to be unscannable. it would add a bit of risk when you undock you might get attacked.
why do you think hisec only has **** ores in belts, **** anomalies, crappy rats, but then the super-income missions? thats not right.
eve = risk/reward, not eve = free candy.
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Baneken
Gallente The New Knighthood Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:00:00 -
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I assume that OP is aware that losec is a brand of medicin for burning stomach that they sell around here.
http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html |
Hide Yokids
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ariz Black
all i do is nullsec small-gang pvp, defending our few systems of sov. what i am saddened by is that when i go to rat once a week to pay for ammo for my pewpew, i would make more by jumpcloning to hisec and running 4's than i can make by ratting/anomalies in null.
nullsec is higher risk, it should carry higher reward. where is the justification for hisec earnings being on par with nullsec earnings? in ccp's profit margins? well **** them.
So... you don't even do anything in Low sec, but you're crying for them to fix low sec. You sound like a whiny, greedy, ***** tbh.
Poor widdle piwate... :(
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rootimus maximus
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Ariz Black Remove level 4 agents from highsec. Levels 4 and 5 should be only 0.4 and down. Oh look, suddenly lots of people have a reason to run level 3s.
I believe the correct vernacular is: FYP.
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Admiral Sarah Solette
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:03:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral Sarah Solette on 19/03/2011 20:03:01
Originally by: Ariz Black
pve ships would still pve, people would just learn to fit eccm and **** to be unscannable. it would add a bit of risk when you undock you might get attacked.
Apparently, you've never missioned before. You don't have enough slots on a mission ship to fit ECCM or any PvP modules! PvE ships /= PvP ships.
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Ariz Black
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Sarah Solette Apparently, you've never missioned before. You don't have enough slots on a mission ship to fit ECCM
i haven't, but i hear from my friends that they have lv4 and lv5 unscannable setups on t3's for doing nullsec missioning, those of them who have the standings for it
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Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ariz Black all i do is nullsec small-gang pvp, defending our few systems of sov. what i am saddened by is that when i go to rat once a week to pay for ammo for my pewpew, i would make more by jumpcloning to hisec and running 4's than i can make by ratting/anomalies in null.
I see, so you don`t do carebearing at all. Then you agree that all this carebear **** like anomalies, ratting and complexes should be removed from 0.0 completely because this game only for pvp? Why would someone bother killing npc in 0.0 if they must pvp 24/7?
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Myelinated
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Sarah Solette Edited by: Admiral Sarah Solette on 19/03/2011 20:03:01
Originally by: Ariz Black
pve ships would still pve, people would just learn to fit eccm and **** to be unscannable. it would add a bit of risk when you undock you might get attacked.
Apparently, you've never missioned before. You don't have enough slots on a mission ship to fit ECCM or any PvP modules! PvE ships /= PvP ships.
Apparently you're bad at eve and don't know how to fit delicious unprobable faction fit t3s I use to run null/lowsex level 4 missions and plexs with.
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Admiral Sarah Solette
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: Myelinated
Apparently you're bad at eve and don't know how to fit delicious unprobable faction fit t3s I use to run null/lowsex level 4 missions and plexs with.
Apparently you can't grasp the concept of: I don't want to have to get a T3 ship, just to do a level 4 mission. Hard concept, huh?
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Noremac Mugatu
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:19:00 -
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Since we're doing some equations here, let's look at the word "PVP" cuz that's really what you want.
PVP = Player vs Player. Basically human trying to outwit and outplay other human. Now you want CCP to get involved and force the unwilling in to your cage just so you can have your one sided fight.
If you can't find targets in low sec, you're not doing it right. By making the developer take your side and change the rules to suit your needs, you are negating the whole PVP experience.
We would have to call it PCCPvP, and that's just hard to say...
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Myelinated
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Sarah Solette
Originally by: Myelinated
Apparently you're bad at eve and don't know how to fit delicious unprobable faction fit t3s I use to run null/lowsex level 4 missions and plexs with.
Apparently you can't grasp the concept of: I don't want to have to get a T3 ship, just to do a level 4 mission. Hard concept, huh?
Maybe you shouldn't generalize that all mission ships can't be made unprobable like a smacktard then. Hmm?
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Tagera
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:28:00 -
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I was under the impression that eccm only affected the use of ecm's on a ship. And that probes could track you down no matter what.
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Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Janos Saal
Originally by: Ariz Black If people leave over this, I won't miss them.
CCP will.
And with most people who plays eve are to be found in hisec the potential losses of customers can be high.
Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL. |
Captain Die
Suicide by Cop
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:32:00 -
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Losec:
Nerf Gate guns. Boost agents. ABC ores in belts. Increase amount of stations. Boost ratting. Boost anom spawn rate. --- DIE - EVE-O's SADOMASICHIST I WHO HAVE NOTHING! |
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