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Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2011.03.21 05:02:00 -
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*Seriphyn appears, in a black coatee with matching tricorne, removing an eyemask. He resembles a Rouvenor-era noble or minuteman, depending on who you ask*
I briefly booked a return InterBus ticket to Amarr Prime to visit this little masquerade the Knighthood had going on at Mercy's Keep. Upon entering, a lot of people were wearing classical Gallentean clothing, and even the band was playing waltz. Most pleasing to a Gallente cultural imperialist like myself. Anyway, besides the point.
I had the [mis]pleasure of noticing that Jia-Lei Lian of True Slave Foundations fame was there, and overheard that at least two other Sansha loyalists were once present at this ball as well. If I recall, Mercy's Keep disallows Sani Sabik and Equilibrium of Mankind affliates, yet not Sansha? Why is this? I know Amarrian loyalists, particularly PIE, like to take the moral highground, so this is myself, a decadent immoral Gallente, calling out members of the Knighthood of the Spineless Crown in public.
If you discount the Blood Raiders, the Sani Sabik are about as harmless as Midna Lyre, the Gallentean pop star loyal to that faith. Yet, you freely let Sansha loyalists wander around your chambers, on the Amarrian homeworld, like it's nobody's business. What's the deal, huh?
Grow a ****ing pair; you lost millions of your people to Sansha's Nation, slaves and commoners alike, and yet you allow them to bask in your hospitality. Weak and spineless. ------------ Lum Gen Seriphyn Inhonores FDU Commanding Officer, Eleutherian Guard |
Silas Vitalia
Khanid Provincial Vanguard Vanguard Imperium
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Posted - 2011.03.21 05:19:00 -
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*Silas raises an eyebrow at reading this report*
I'm confident the Knighthood will have a satisfactory explanation for this. Perhaps a mixup with the invitations (those damnable PR slaves do have a track record for incompetence)? Or the fact that it was a masquerade ball allowed some subterfuge on the part of well known enemies of the Empire?
I could not imagine any reason why this most noble and devout loyalist organization could be associated with any scandalous activities. Completely unthinkable. *smiles*
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Sinjin Mokk
Khanid Provincial Vanguard Vanguard Imperium
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Posted - 2011.03.21 05:22:00 -
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Oh Seriphyn,
Surely you could concoct a better pack of lies than that?
No evidence? DidnÆt happen.
Or more to the point, ôWe can neither confirm nor deny your accusations at this time. It is not the policy of the Amarr Empire and itÆs loyal citizens to answer to any charges, slander or innuendo that may be put forth by any citizen of the Gallente Federation while a state of war exists.ö
Thank you and have a nice day.
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Kahar Dex
Amarr Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.21 05:23:00 -
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I would not presume to speak on behalf of the Knighthood, but had you stopped to consider that the allowance of such guests were to gain subtle intel on enemies, caught unawares by the large quantities of the ageless and legal truth serum (alcohol)?
Afterall, they did allow Empire war targets such as yourself admittance.
The Knighthood is a very different organization than say PIE Inc.
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Silas Vitalia
Khanid Provincial Vanguard Vanguard Imperium
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Posted - 2011.03.21 05:31:00 -
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Edited by: Silas Vitalia on 21/03/2011 05:31:11 It might also seem that the General might need to install a breathalyser on his neocom before these sorts of posts.
That being said a party with this sort of mixed company might be more appropriate for an organization like the New Eden Assembly?
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Shalee Lianne
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2011.03.21 06:04:00 -
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There's so much I can say to this but I will refrain and boil it down to one simple thing.
It is our party and we can invite whom we want to.
-Shalee Lianne KOTMC
ps. You, Seriphyn Inhonores, should NOT have been there.
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Eran Mintor
Minmatar Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2011.03.21 06:13:00 -
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As Ms. Lianne said, it is our party, and we can invite who we like.
The invitation for the ball and dinner actually went out to everyone, including those friendly and hostile to us.
Your problem seems to be in the typical restriction that no members of the EoM or followers of Sani Sabik may enter. Honestly, had either of them entered, I'm not sure they would've been removed.
Knighthood has always been about openness; and should some outsider or enemy choose to look at our way of life, we will not turn them away if they come with good intentions.
When people come with bad intentions is when we become worried.
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Aldrith Shutaq
Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2011.03.21 07:07:00 -
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Edited by: Aldrith Shutaq on 21/03/2011 07:09:48 Well I didn't invite them
Guess they decided to crash.
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Niraia
Zaratha Zarati Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2011.03.21 08:09:00 -
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You must be the first person to see Jia-Lei and complain about it rather than wish she was on top of you, one way or another. -
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Eran Mintor
Minmatar Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2011.03.21 08:21:00 -
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I'm not sure who you're saying is complaining, but I never saw Seriphyn there if you're referring to him. Honestly, I think he is more concerned about his child than the safety of anyone else. ------------------------------------------------ Please re-size your signature to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes.Applebabe |
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.03.21 08:24:00 -
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Originally by: Seriphyn Inhonores I know Amarrian loyalists, particularly PIE, like to take the moral highground, so this is myself, a decadent immoral Gallente, calling out members of the Knighthood of the Spineless Crown in public.
Rest assured, we had already raised the issue of fraternisation with hostile elements with KotMC, and they are in no doubt regarding our views.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Eran Mintor
Minmatar Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2011.03.21 08:38:00 -
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Edited by: Eran Mintor on 21/03/2011 08:41:56
With all due respect, Admiral Blake, we are not PIE, and while we accept people from all walks of life, we do not do so light-heartedly.
All should understand that while we are open to allowing un-aggressive capusleers to our facilities, we are very strict with our recruitment processes.
Furthermore, if we feel these guests are harming the welcomeness feeling of the Keep, they will be removed.
We will do such at the request of others with good reason, but should you raise issue with us later, you will find yourself too late to make a difference.
All those who visit the Keep should be aware that the public hall may be tapped by those who are real enemies to the Empire.
While ideally we would throw them all out of the Keep, you must understand that they will (and have, from my experience removing 3rd party wire taps...) always have some link to the loyalists. PIE may see itself as an impervious target, but I wonder how many True Amarr in your ranks really hold the beliefs you do simply based on their heritage.
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Kahar Dex
Amarr Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.21 08:55:00 -
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Edited by: Kahar Dex on 21/03/2011 09:02:19
Originally by: Eran Mintor Edited by: Eran Mintor on 21/03/2011 08:41:56
With all due respect, Admiral Blake, we are not PIE, and while we accept people from all walks of life, we do not do so light-heartedly.
All should understand that while we are open to allowing un-aggressive capusleers to our facilities, we are very strict with our recruitment processes.
Furthermore, if we feel these guests are harming the welcomeness feeling of the Keep, they will be removed.
We will do such at the request of others with good reason, but should you raise issue with us later, you will find yourself too late to make a difference.
All those who visit the Keep should be aware that the public hall may be tapped by those who are real enemies to the Empire.
While ideally we would throw them all out of the Keep, you must understand that they will (and have, from my experience removing 3rd party wire taps...) always have some link to the loyalists. PIE may see itself as an impervious target, but I wonder how many True Amarr in your ranks really hold the beliefs you do simply based on their heritage.
Faith is not something based on race, but on beliefs and actions.
Brother Mintor, I believe the Admiral was merely stating to Seriphyn the PIE has already spoken to the KotMC regarding this and that the KotMC is aware of PIE's views regarding on the matter, nothing more.
The Admiral can of course correct me if I'm wrong. Sometimes uplinks to Galnet can be damaged, and likely his statement is missing a word:
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Rest assured, we had already raised the issue of fraternisation with hostile elements with KotMC, and they are in no doubt [informed] regarding our views.
[Correction Mine]
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Eran Mintor
Minmatar Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2011.03.21 08:57:00 -
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Edited by: Eran Mintor on 21/03/2011 08:58:27 My apologies if it was intended as such. Perhaps I am becoming too defensive these days.
God bless, Mr. Blake.
And you too, Mr. Dex for subsiding my irrationality. ------------------------------------------------ Please re-size your signature to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes.Applebabe |
Rytha Main
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.03.21 09:01:00 -
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Originally by: Eran Mintor PIE may see itself as an impervious target, but I wonder how many True Amarr in your ranks really hold the beliefs you do simply based on their heritage.
Faith is not something based on race, but on beliefs and actions.
I can at least attest to the solidarity which exists within the Praetoria. Initiates which are not suitable to become full-fledged Guardians are either dismissed or leave on their own accord.
And I've never seen nor heard a Praetorian claim perfection on behalf of themselves or PIE as a whole. Superiority perhaps, but not perfection.
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Eran Mintor
Minmatar Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2011.03.21 09:10:00 -
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Good enough for me, Guardian Main. Same here, really.
Nice to see you again, sorry to see you couldn't attend the event. Perhaps next year we will try to make it more in line with your schedules. ------------------------------------------------ Please re-size your signature to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes.Applebabe |
Vincent Pryce
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.03.21 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: Seriphyn Inhonores *Seriphyn appears, in a black coatee with matching tricorne, removing an eyemask. He resembles a Rouvenor-era noble or minuteman, depending on who you ask*
I briefly booked a return InterBus ticket to Amarr Prime to visit this little masquerade the Knighthood had going on at Mercy's Keep. Upon entering, a lot of people were wearing classical Gallentean clothing, and even the band was playing waltz. Most pleasing to a Gallente cultural imperialist like myself. Anyway, besides the point.
I had the [mis]pleasure of noticing that Jia-Lei Lian of True Slave Foundations fame was there, and overheard that at least two other Sansha loyalists were once present at this ball as well. If I recall, Mercy's Keep disallows Sani Sabik and Equilibrium of Mankind affliates, yet not Sansha? Why is this? I know Amarrian loyalists, particularly PIE, like to take the moral highground, so this is myself, a decadent immoral Gallente, calling out members of the Knighthood of the Spineless Crown in public.
If you discount the Blood Raiders, the Sani Sabik are about as harmless as Midna Lyre, the Gallentean pop star loyal to that faith. Yet, you freely let Sansha loyalists wander around your chambers, on the Amarrian homeworld, like it's nobody's business. What's the deal, huh?
Grow a ****ing pair; you lost millions of your people to Sansha's Nation, slaves and commoners alike, and yet you allow them to bask in your hospitality. Weak and spineless.
I believe "U mad brah?" is the correct Mannar expression.
Funny how you should take such moral high ground over the Knighthood about the Nation considering you were stuffing some Toaster chick like a Federation day turkey not long ago... Or are you just bitter you didn't get any hot android chick action this time around?
"If you discount the Blood Raiders, the Sani Sabik are about as harmless as Midna Lyre" Dude, what bad batch of Crystal Egg are you on? You might as well say "Apart from Kuvakei's mad desire for universal domination and his plan to make us all into True Slaves, the Nation is actually a pretty nice place."
And if all this bothers you so much why were you there in the first place, it was a public event was it not, you tit? Can't you just like go somewhere, have a good time, and not be a d**k about it at every single turn mid or after event.
Dude, seriously. Seriously, dude. --
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Lucius Vindictus
Amarr East Khanid Trading
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Posted - 2011.03.21 10:59:00 -
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Don't flatter yourself too much, general. I was there, and I can assure the reader that the celebration and dress style was predominantly Amarrian, exceptions among some of the guests here and there. Gallenteans, cultural imperialists or not, aren't the only ones who know how to party.
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Matthaios Panthera
Amarr Vallo Nostrum Domus
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Posted - 2011.03.21 11:42:00 -
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Edited by: Matthaios Panthera on 21/03/2011 11:43:45
Originally by: Eran Mintor As Ms. Lianne said, it is our party, and we can invite who we like.
Your problem seems to be in the typical restriction that no members of the EoM or followers of Sani Sabik may enter. Honestly, had either of them entered, I'm not sure they would've been removed.
Enemies of the Amarrian bloc can still be civil at such functions, regardless of their political standing. Afterall, unless I'm very much mistaken, I'm sure I saw Ms Lianne dancing with Tigerfish at one point!
Panthera.
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Gangleri
Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard
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Posted - 2011.03.21 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Seriphyn Inhonores [i]*Seriphyn appears, in a black coatee with matching tricorne, removing an eyemask. He resembles a I had the [mis]pleasure of noticing that Jia-Lei Lian of True Slave Foundations fame was there, and overheard that at least two other Sansha loyalists were once present at this ball as well.
I don't care who was invited or not. Three enemies of the Empire were sighted in the Keep and they were not arrested? Toxication with booze and whatever more are no excuse for not upholding your clear obligations to the Empire.
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Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Crimson Path Shaktipat Revelators
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Posted - 2011.03.21 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Niraia You must be the first person to see Jia-Lei and complain about it rather than wish she was on top of you, one way or another.
Oh God, Niraia..
Have you been peeking into my personal logs?
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Aodha Khan
Minmatar Ma'asei Merkabah Naraka.
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Posted - 2011.03.21 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kahar Dex
I would not presume to speak on behalf of the Knighthood, but had you stopped to consider that the allowance of such guests were to gain subtle intel on enemies, caught unawares by the large quantities of the ageless and legal truth serum (alcohol)?
Intel flows both ways...I would guess being allowed inside your enemies environment would give the attendee the better chance of gaining intel.
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Yoshitaka Moromuo
Distant Light Galactic Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2011.03.21 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: Yo****aka Moromuo on 21/03/2011 13:51:37 There is such a thing as civility, Seriphyn... even though many of us would like to exercise other options in regards to the Nation loyalists, many of us hold ourselves back. As an external observer in this case, so long as all involved were civil and no issues arose, I fail to see the problem. This is moreso the case as it was an event organized and hosted by [KOTMC], and as such, they have sole discretion over those in attendance.
Your attack on the overall character of the Knighthood of the Merciless Crown is not appropriate for this venue. If you saw any issue, you should have contacted them directly and exchanged harsh words in private. Not here, not in this public venue.
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Ryven Krennel
Caldari Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2011.03.21 13:52:00 -
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I feel it is again worth noting that it was a masquerade ball, and some disguises were better than others. I spent most of the evening not knowing who anyone was.
I also note that there are three sides to this discussion: 1) The Knighthood did Gallentean things! 2) The Knighthood consorts with bad people. 3) (From the Knighthood) Stop telling us how to throw our parties.
So, as a response to #1: A waltz is a clever dance, and the Gallente make some nice dresses. I believe I even commented on that during the party. I assure you, however, the Gallente don't have a monopoly on good times. #2: Slap the word 'public' on a hall and you'll be amazed the trash that walks in. The disguises, which went far beyond just simple masks, made it difficult to tell who was who at the party, also. #3: I think this is a somewhat reasonable viewpoint. The Knighthood is the Knighthood. PIE is PIE. I think they are separate entities for a reason. They can have common goals, but I think it's a waste of time for them to try to tell each other how to accomplish them.
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Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2011.03.21 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Shalee Lianne It is our party and we can invite whom we want to.
This sums it up right here. A very Gallentean attitude. "We can do what we want"
Are you actually Amarrians, or just socialites that want to be loved by everyone? ------------ Lum Gen Seriphyn Inhonores FDU Commanding Officer, Eleutherian Guard |
Valerie Valate
Amarr Church of The Crimson Saviour
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Posted - 2011.03.21 15:30:00 -
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Down with this sort of thing. _________________________________________
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Vincent Pryce
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.03.21 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Seriphyn Inhonores
Originally by: Shalee Lianne It is our party and we can invite whom we want to.
This sums it up right here. A very Gallentean attitude. "We can do what we want"
Are you actually Amarrians, or just socialites that want to be loved by everyone?
Wait... Let me get this straight, dude. You are fighting for the 'Gallente way of life' and when you actually see bunch of Amarrians reveling in it and promote the values you believe in by their actions, you are *****ing about it? I'd think one such as yourself would welcome this change in the Empire and it's citizens. --
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Silas Vitalia
Khanid Provincial Vanguard Vanguard Imperium
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Posted - 2011.03.21 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Vincent Pryce I'd think one such as yourself would welcome this change in the Empire and it's citizens.
A single capsuleer corporation dancing the night away with Sansha filth does not constitute an change in the Empire or it's citizens. Nor does a corporation "reveling in it and promote the [Gallente] values..." reflect on anyone aside from that group.
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Shalee Lianne
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2011.03.21 17:14:00 -
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This whole thing is absurd. He is just pouting because I told him not to come to the ball.
Everyone can say what they want, it matters little because in the end, actions speak far louder than drivel on the Summit.
The Knighthood is what it is. We have our own way of doing things granted, but no one can question our dedication to our cause. Killboard & VP stats will testify to that.
If you have something else mouthy to say to this, why don't you come down to Huola and say it 'to my face' so to speak. And make sure you bring a nice big ship with lots of guns. You'll need it.
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Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2011.03.21 17:21:00 -
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Look, M Pryce, I know you're pretty reactionary right now because I'm attacking your baby girl Shalee Lianne here (the only reason you're participating in this topic), but how about you actually try to justify or explain the presence of Sansha loyalists at this apparently Amarrian function?
What exactly are Knights of the Spineless Crown celebrating? If they let me, an enemy combatant, wander right in, along with Sansha loyalists, then what is the POINT of a first year anniversary?
It's called integrity, something that every soldier loyal to their country should strive for. You're not always going to be successful, no, that's sort of the point, and this could have been one of the Knighthood's blunders. However, it seems they honestly don't care they let Sansha in, or deny any fault or wrongdoing. ------------ Lum Gen Seriphyn Inhonores FDU Commanding Officer, Eleutherian Guard |
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