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Posted - 2011.03.24 15:17:00 -
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I was looking at this chart.
I am planning to mine Clear Icicles (Amarr) in the near future. The chart states that the amounts are based on perfect refining. I'm guessing that means refining skills, right?
So assuming I have Refining at level 5, and a standing of 9.5+ with the corporation where refining is done, I would yield 300 Isotopes, 25 LO, 50 HW, and 1 ST?
Assuming that's what the chart means, what if I'm planning to get the skill Refining Efficiency up to level 4? Could I reduce the waste further and yield moar than what the chart is stating? Or is Refining Efficiency already being considered in this chart?
Are there other ways to decrease the waste for ice?
Thanks,
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Cobalt Sablestar Icefluxor
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.03.24 15:29:00 -
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Even with Refining Efficiency V and 6.67 Standings giving a 0% NPC Take, one still needs Ice Processing Skill to reduce the 5% Unrecoverable. Takes awhile. 
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.03.24 15:31:00 -
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Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 24/03/2011 15:33:47
You can't get better than 100% yield and 0% tax.
Ice Processing 1 is all you need, and it has a prerequisites which will get you that at a station with 50% facilities:
Industry I
Refining I
Refining II
Refining III
Refining IV
Refining V
Refinery Efficiency I
Refinery Efficiency II
Refinery Efficiency III
Refinery Efficiency IV
Refinery Efficiency V
Science IV
Science V
Engineering IV
Engineering V
Hydromagnetic Physics I
Hydromagnetic Physics II
Hydromagnetic Physics III
Hydromagnetic Physics IV
Ice Processing I
With a 2% refining implant you only need Refining 5 and Refinery Efficiency 5 to refine anything perfectly (100%), even scrap. You don't need any material skills in this case.
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Cobalt Sablestar Icefluxor
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.03.24 15:38:00 -
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 Originally by: Tau Cabalander
Ice Processing 1 is all you need,
That will only reduce by 1%. Need Level 5 to reduce the full 5%. Some can indeed be made up with the Refining Yield Implants, but the cost........and besides, better to have the regular Mining Yield or 'Yeti' Implant in there.
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Rocks." - Albert Einstein |
Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.03.24 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Cobalt Sablestar Icefluxor
Originally by: Tau Cabalander
Ice Processing 1 is all you need,
That will only reduce by 1%. Need Level 5 to reduce the full 5%.
Please read the skill description again. All material skills are 5%/level.
Originally by: Ice Processing
Skill for Ice processing and refining. Allows a skilled refiner to utilize substandard refining facilities at considerably greater efficiency. 5% reduction in Ice refining waste per skill
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Cobalt Sablestar Icefluxor
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.03.24 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Tau Cabalander
Originally by: Cobalt Sablestar Icefluxor
Originally by: Tau Cabalander
Ice Processing 1 is all you need,
That will only reduce by 1%. Need Level 5 to reduce the full 5%.
Please read the skill description again. All material skills are 5%/level.
Originally by: Ice Processing
Skill for Ice processing and refining. Allows a skilled refiner to utilize substandard refining facilities at considerably greater efficiency. 5% reduction in Ice refining waste per skill
Look at the waste amount and reduce that by 5%. That is all you get with each level on the Ice Processing Skill. I have Ice Processing III, and there is just that little bit of Isotopes still being taken, but not enough to worry about going up anymore levels. That's where the Refining Implants come in.
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"I can not tell you what particular weapon will be used in World War III, but I can tell you what will be used in World War IV.
Rocks." - Albert Einstein |
Infinitio Krystallos
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Posted - 2011.03.24 16:04:00 -
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I think what Cobalt is saying is Ice Processing Skill is no different from say Veldspar Processing. It just takes a lot of other skills to make Ice Processing available. And there is only a 5% reduction in the waste amount, not of 'the entire 5% left'.
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.03.24 17:14:00 -
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Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 24/03/2011 17:26:04
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I have Ice Processing III, and there is just that little bit of Isotopes still being taken, but not enough to worry about going up anymore levels. That's where the Refining Implants come in.
I have Ice Processing 1 on two accounts. I get 100% yield ("Unrecoverable" = 0) at stations with 50% facilities. No implant. You must not be using 50% facilities.
Do not pay attention to the yield number at the top right of the reprocessing box, as it does not include material skills. Only look at the "Unrecoverable" column (0 = no waste).
Yield (before tax, max 100%) = Facilities Base + Reprocessing Base * (1 + Refining * 0.02) * (1 + Refinery Efficiency * 0.04) * (1 + Material Specialization * 0.05) * (1 + Refining Implant Percent / 100)
Facilities Base: Depends on the station
Reprocessing Base: always 37.5% for NPC stations and outposts
Tax Percent ("We Keep" column) = 5 - standing * 0.75 to a maximum of 5%.
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