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bloody johnroberts
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Posted - 2011.03.27 14:07:00 -
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im not sure if this has been said as i have had no time to read every thread but we at fanfest sat in a 0.0 round table and none of this was said by grayscale not 1 word. i wonder why hmmmmmm would it be the case that he would not have left the room dry anyway as we had plenty of beer. it just goes to show that grayscales agenda is let fix nothing and hate on 0.0 player base
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bloody johnroberts
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Posted - 2011.03.27 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Evelgrivion
Originally by: bloody johnroberts im not sure if this has been said as i have had no time to read every thread but we at fanfest sat in a 0.0 round table and none of this was said by grayscale not 1 word. i wonder why hmmmmmm would it be the case that he would not have left the room dry anyway as we had plenty of beer. it just goes to show that grayscales agenda is let fix nothing and hate on 0.0 player base
You clearly have no understanding of the source of the problems with the game. Going back to before, it comes down to how easy it is to accomplish certain things; movement of men, and movement of materials. The less time it takes to do something, the more people can move, and the faster they can move it.
This simple fact makes it very easy to get extraordinarily large forces into one spot at one time. This is nice for defenders, but it's bad for gameplay; the natural progression path is to what we see today: get as many pilots in the biggest ships possible in the same place at the same time. This is what CCP is trying to contend with.
To get rid of these problems, a scarcity problem needs to be introduced to the game's resources. It hurts individual players, yes, but lets face it; it's not something you weren't suffering through before the sanctums were introduced. People dealt with it then, and they can deal with inequality in the future. It generates conflicts, and makes people need to plan. It's damaging to the NC as an organization, and that is a good thing; power blocks are not good for Eve.
and these changes will affect that how you clearly have no idea of 0.0
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bloody johnroberts
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Posted - 2011.03.27 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Evelgrivion Edited by: Evelgrivion on 27/03/2011 14:34:12
Originally by: Traska Gannel Many individual players rely on anomalies to pay for PVP ships. T2 fitted HACs, Recons, Command Ships and Battleships run 200 million ISK or more each (wide range but 100 to 250mil would be typical). Insurance only covers a fraction of the hull costs and none of the fittings. In addition, alliances depend on the tax revenues generated to cover the monthly costs of sov structures or to fund PVP ship replacement programs.
Think about what you're saying here for a second. Players are relying on anomolies to get the ISK they need to throw away expensive ships in a fight.
This is one of the problems I'm tired of seeing. Ship losses need to hurt more than an hour or two of ratting to make up for the loss.
omg what are you saying if that is the case we would still blob but in rifters
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bloody johnroberts
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Posted - 2011.03.27 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Marconus Orion The NC says they care about their BFF in those regions that will get a nerf, but what they are truly worried about is renters/guests from giving them the finger on rent. That or finding better space and not being a free buffer zone for them. They could give two ****s about how much money you are making as long as you are a nice buffer paying rent. Thats it. The change would mean some areas players will refuse to pay rent on because it will not be possible to make any decent money there if they have to pay homage to NC. Thus, the end effect will be less alliances will to be blue to them. Simply because being blue with them will have zero benefits.
"You stay here and pay us rent and make sure no one interrupts me while I farm Sanctums all day, ok? And no, you can't come in our space to get some Sanctum action either. Go ratting in a belt renter! BFF right?"
No self respecting alliance will want to be blue with that. Thus, the numbers NC are able to blob anyone with the 30 alliances totaling 49,227 blues they have(as of five days ago) according to their official list here. There will be less buffer to defend their extensive coveted jump bridge network that is here. They depend on that jump bridge network for logistics and power projection heavily. And before you think that people will still go to the destination via the gates, sure... some will. Others will log/afk/whatever but the same number of people willing to take gates will be less than those willing to take the jump bridges. That is a fact!
"But we need their jump bridges to be able to survive!"
No you don't. Before jump bridges people lived out there before jump bridges and they didn't have jump freighters, covert blockade runners and covert bridges to get supplies in. They require more effort than the jump bridge network but it is feasible.
So as the number of alliances willing to pay rent or leave for greener pastures happens, the number in their coalition goes down. Again, they absolutely do not care you will not be able to make the money they can. All they care about is you paying rent, being a buffer to protect them from enemies and you x'ing up to smash your ships on non-blues.
True they will have the money, but the man power will go down. Ever seen 30 Rifters go after a single battleship? The battleship is worth a whole lot more but the Rifters will be too much for him. This is exactly what they don't want to happen. What they want is for any entity that wants to set foot in null to have to check in with them for their blessing. Granted that is not really the case now, but if you don't and settle anywhere remotely close they will drop on you with those 49k+ blues. That number will be far less without all the guests they have now because they will have left/went independent.
So when the change happens and you still want to be BFF with the NC, just tell them in order to compensate for the change, you wont be paying rent anymore. See how they react. You not needing them is what they are scared of. Take this for what you want. Keep paying that rent and being a buffer for them as they farm Sanctums and drink Tech moon goo while you rat in a belt and watch for non-blues for them. Sounds more like a slave than a friend to me.
do you have any clue of how a 0.0 alliance works jumpbridge removal will not change force projection we all use staging systems and we have titans to bridge us. why all the hate did we deny your application ???
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bloody johnroberts
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Posted - 2011.03.27 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
Originally by: Sannye ...
Sanctum system was introduced to compensate for moon reshuffle and removal of statics .. had nothing to do with bills (roughly equivalent to Sov POS maint. costs).
Sov bills were however meant as a way to restrict the infinte sprawl we were/are seeing, it was assumed that costs would become so high that entities would naturally stop expanding once the threshold was reached .. Sanctum system eliminates that threshold making the only limit how many idiots one can get to farm all day, but with human intelligence decreasing that number is quite substantial.
Originally by: bloody johnroberts .. none of this was said by grayscale not 1 word. i wonder why hmmmmmm at fanfest round table on 0.0
Because of impotent emo-rage like we are seeing here on the forums. Roundtables normally work by one having a rough plan for what needs to be raised, were they to mention an emo topic the roundtable would effectively have ended.
Originally by: Armaos Moar Isk = More fun PvP...
Explain why it becomes more fun when all risk, consequence and challenge is effectively removed by unlimited ISK being available at all times and everyone are flying optimal ships 23/7.
Originally by: Evelgrivion Actually, last time I checked, the number of dying ships has gone down, not up...
On the up side, the militias have been seeing an influx of high SP/ISK players who are fed up with bore-sec and are looking to get their mojo back -> Lot more quality engagements happening in lala-land.
fixed for you:))
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bloody johnroberts
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Posted - 2011.03.27 18:02:00 -
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this is not about 1 0.0 alliance its every 0.0 alliance is affected and the only ones that are saying yes to these poorly thrown together (FIXS) are empire corps i have a suggestion
lets nerf mission running in low sec
see that hate mails rolling in
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bloody johnroberts
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Posted - 2011.03.28 21:56:00 -
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i have realised why ccp grayscale is applying this nerf its because he is a spy for wow as he looks like a wow avatar i expect to see the wow link at the end of his next post
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bloody johnroberts
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Posted - 2011.03.31 21:50:00 -
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this thread is getting as big as the t20 fun and games
when is ccp grayscale going to comment on any of this stuff his last post sounded like a petition auto response
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bloody johnroberts
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Posted - 2011.04.01 21:47:00 -
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Edited by: bloody johnroberts on 01/04/2011 21:47:39 even if this get to 100k posts he still will not respond to the player base. we saw that at fanfest in every round table i attended he showed is total lack of understanding. his solution to an issue is CHANGE THE PLAYERS BEHAVOUR lol well you will do this but at a cost to ccp
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bloody johnroberts
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Posted - 2011.04.01 22:11:00 -
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lol after ccp presents and being asked to get new member to come and play eve i find it hard to understand how we could do this after the new patch
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bloody johnroberts
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Posted - 2011.04.01 22:15:00 -
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you fail to understand this is not about 1 alliance this is about every alliance north south east or west everyone is affected unless you stay in high sec
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bloody johnroberts
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Posted - 2011.04.04 19:30:00 -
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ccp gayscale will not reply to this thread as he has no point to make the last post was a auto response and as such proves point blank his total lack of brain matter. still theres always auditioning for gnomeo and juliet 2 he might do well
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