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eddie valvetino
Snuff Box
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Posted - 2012.09.18 15:17:00 -
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Dreya Renthold wrote:So I played a Beta weekend and then stopped. I stopped for the same reason I normally don't play FPS. There was no option to play as a female.
I'm quite tired of my gender being ignored/looked down on in this genre of game. I can out shoot all the males at my command.
<-- RL Female Marine
But with all FPS itGÇÖs the same.
BF: all male Halo: male Bioshock: male CoD: male
Some, like Half Life 2, have great female characters in them. But they are never the lead, and not playable.
TLDR: Will DUST have female player characters?
P.S.: If my rant is incorrect feel free to let me know and provide proof.
OMG, a female Marine... I'm both scared and excited
Joking apart, Eve has always had a female Avatars, I have no doubt that Dust will too. Lets be fair, the game is Beta, I would think that less than 25% of the launch content is in the current version. |
0zimandius
Spartan Shipyards THE H0NEYBADGER
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Posted - 2012.09.18 20:02:00 -
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the scout isnt female? =) |
Tierere
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.19 09:40:00 -
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yes, and they could have different starter skills like multi tasking and operating dangerous machinery. |
Shanara As
Psy Corp Ltd.
445
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Posted - 2012.09.19 16:50:00 -
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firing off long and short rockets. "Gotta spend money to make money" "A fool talks, a wise man listens" "He who doesn-¦t wanna listen, talks the most"
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Mike Adoulin
Trans-Aerospace Industries
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Posted - 2012.09.22 00:43:00 -
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Quote:You have never seen the results of 200 Marines going on liberty at once have you? Heres the quick answer: Drinking, Fighting, video games, but mostly lots and lots of condom usage.
Yeah, I have, and what does that have to do with mass-produced disposable clone troops?
From what I understand the DUST troops don't even get on transports to go to another planet, they jump into a clone body at the destination/target and the old body gets biomassed.
As for 'why anthropoid/humanoid', because the humanoid form is pretty good at all-purpose bad-assery, not to mention they save money by using existing weapons designed by and for humans.
Still don't see why gender on DUST troopies even an issue. |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.22 03:19:00 -
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Guys, the dust bodies, yes, but when your not in battle, you won't be in your suit. That's just the beta. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg |
Mr Bernays
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.27 04:08:00 -
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As a former active duty Marine and in my current position supporting Marines...I have only come across one Marine who played Eve actively. Most of the Marines I knew/know all for whatever reason love WoW and more recently SWTOR if they were into MMO's. It's very hard convincing the people I work around to try Eve. I am hoping with Dust that it'll attract more people to Eve....especially amongst the Marines I work with who in general are more of the console gamer types. |
Nalianna
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.27 04:50:00 -
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Domer Pyle wrote:i've only ever seen a few female FPS gamers in-game. this could be the reason why most FPSes only have male characters. 1 gender = easier and cheaper, so the devs pick the gender that the majority of the players are. That being said, some FPSes do have two genders, but they're not made by the usual FPS devs. The one real problem with this is that a LOT of male players actually want to see a female character. I'm one of them, and I know plenty of others. The idea that you can just be lazy and do only half the programming by doing just the male characters is wrong anyway - it's just a different body shape, really. Most of everything else is going to be the same other than playing style which is going to be different depending on the player, and you don't have to program for that....
I totally believe that female characters should always be programmed in, especially when the avatar is actually visible in the game. For women, I know this to be particularly important as all the female players I know in EVE play almost exclusively female characters, which is a particularly female thing to do apparently. In contrast, many if not most of the male players I know play both male and female characters. |
Nalianna
Perkone Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.09.27 05:27:00 -
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Borker Mango wrote:Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:Borker Mango wrote:So you're apparently a female marine, but something like gender selection in a video game hurts your feelings enough to stop playing it? Aren't marines supposed to be tough? I think this falls under annoyance. What if the majority of characters were female in your favorite types of games with no male representation? But the genre in question is FPS of military combat. Most games are modeled off of something real and tweaked to suit the story. US military, and most all militaries don't put females in combat roles, so neither has any shooter like that. What if there was an FPS of pillow fights at a sorority rush? Should I be allowed to pick a male? If females had been fighting roles in the military since WW2, I'm sure all the games would have them in it. I'm not saying it shouldn't happen in dust, but OP should understand there's a reason for it in all the games, and it's not sexist game developers. Seriously? You're basing your estimation of the prevalence of females in combat in the far distant future on the 50 or so years since WWII?
I think (or perhaps hope) that society will have advanced further than that by the time of EVE/Dust. With the advent of powered suits there should be no further need to focus on issues like strength or speed in choice of gender for combat roles. It could well be that females come to be preferred over males because of traits they have, like less aggression, and more likelihood to think about things before they just rush gung-ho into a battle. But in any case, I think any argument for the far distant future based on something that's just happened in the last century, without even looking at changes already happening in today's world, are largely invalid. |
Sinigr Shadowsong
WATAG Academy SOLAR WING
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Posted - 2012.09.27 17:55:00 -
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PinkKnife wrote: Also, lets stomp this "men are inherently better at X" argument into the ground right here and now.
There are areas where one gender is better than other. It's not sexism, chauvinism or intolerance, it's just a genetics. That's how it is at how it always was, no matter what some people prefer to see and say. Males are inherently physically stronger. Not just "have more potential for muscle mass growing" or "more upper body strength". Just stronger and faster. Look at any Olympic sports. There are currently no sport competitions (or I never heard of any) where world's bests was made by a female. Average and best results are about 15-25% better for males. How would you explain absence of females in serious racing (no matter car or moto)? Bulky muscle are not necessary for Grand-Prix racing and any female racer will have tremendous success there due to public approval and feminists support. Or how about lack of mixed teams in sports like football? With ignorant answer like "it's male sexists don't allow woomen in sports"? There are different leagues for different genders for a reason.
Obviously, male clone is a better choice for standart, why bother making weaker ones?
Important notes: 1) I don't claim that every man is stronger than every wooman. Well trained woomen are much better in areas where they've been trained than men who are not trained or trained poorly (professional female sprinter is almost always faster than amateur male sprinter). Some woomen are great at something that requires physical strength and even better than all their male collegues they know (like marine above), but if they were male with same trainings and talent (just XY instead of XX) they probably would be 15-25% better at those. 2) I don't touch here areas like intellegence, memory or perception. 3) Females should be allowed in combat. If they wish to fight for their country it's thir right to. 4) I think that there should be options to play as females where it makes sense. |
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Tygre Sunji
Militant Mermen LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
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Posted - 2012.09.28 19:52:00 -
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Play MassEffect, you chose your gender. |
Tygre Sunji
Militant Mermen LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
0
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Posted - 2012.09.28 20:05:00 -
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Eve has awesome graphics. When I am in the Captain's quarters, I'd rather see some cute female avatar than a male one. Yes I'm male, but my current main is female. Why? Because I think I made her cute and would rather watch her butt in station than my male alt's butt.
Nalianna wrote:Domer Pyle wrote:i've only ever seen a few female FPS gamers in-game. this could be the reason why most FPSes only have male characters. 1 gender = easier and cheaper, so the devs pick the gender that the majority of the players are. That being said, some FPSes do have two genders, but they're not made by the usual FPS devs. The one real problem with this is that a LOT of male players actually want to see a female character. I'm one of them, and I know plenty of others. The idea that you can just be lazy and do only half the programming by doing just the male characters is wrong anyway - it's just a different body shape, really. Most of everything else is going to be the same other than playing style which is going to be different depending on the player, and you don't have to program for that.... I totally believe that female characters should always be programmed in, especially when the avatar is actually visible in the game. For women, I know this to be particularly important as all the female players I know in EVE play almost exclusively female characters, which is a particularly female thing to do apparently. In contrast, many if not most of the male players I know play both male and female characters.
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Lyric Lahnder
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
110
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Posted - 2012.10.02 19:01:00 -
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You got what you wanted.
Only one of the dropsuits is overtly feminine in some might say a disrespectful way.
One of the female variants of the drop suits looks really foreign and sinister.
Partially because of its over all look, and partially because it sprint animation makes it look much more fast and lethal then its male styled counterpart. Noir. and Noir Academy are recruiting apply at www.noirmercs.comI Noir Academy: 60 days old must be able to fly at least one tech II frigate. I Noir. Recruits: 4:1 k/d ratio and can fly tech II cruisers. |
Naomi Zirud
Null Sec PvP and Mining Academy
3
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Posted - 2012.10.04 05:48:00 -
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Lyric Lahnder wrote:You got what you wanted.
Only one of the dropsuits is overtly feminine in some might say a disrespectful way.
One of the female variants of the drop suits looks really foreign and sinister.
Partially because of its over all look, and partially because it sprint animation makes it look much more fast and lethal then its male styled counterpart. ^This Plus I like the new Dropsuits looks nice but my toon is a male so dont really care much |
RavenTesio
Liandri Corporation Liandri Covenant
59
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Posted - 2012.10.12 00:37:00 -
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There's nothing stopping you making another... I mean there are 3 slots available =] The Minmatar Logistics suit atm looks like a cross between Dead Space and a WH40k Marine with curves.
Mind one of my mates remarked last night that the girls have a large rear, never noticed it until he mentioned but good lord compared to the guy models they are massive.
The animations are also... well a little OTT Female. (Seriously animator dudes, go out, get laid... it helps!) Mind the funny part is they still use the male noises for moving, grunting, etc...
Really wish we could move about in-station. be cool to chill out in a 3D environment. |
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