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Lando Antilles
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Posted - 2011.03.30 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Tau Cabalander You only need to cycle a 100MN MWD once. Activate the MWD, and immediately de-activate it, and you warp in 10 seconds.
Or...
1. Hit align to destination (gate, station) 2. hit hotkey for cloak module 3. hit hotkey for MWD module 4. wait for MWD cycle to finish 5. hit hotkey for cloak module to de-cloak 6. hit warp to target
If you're agile enough, you'll warp in 1-2 sec. Plus you weren't scannable/targetable for the 10 sec aligning while cloaked. ---------------------- My *locked* EVE CV |
Qui Shon
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Posted - 2011.04.01 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones 100MN AB cycle time is 10 seconds. If you cycle it twice the orca will immediately warp out upon completion of the second cycle.
It is at the very minimum 11 seconds dumbass, I already explained it once in this thread. For most people it will be 14 seconds.
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IoWalker
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Posted - 2011.04.02 01:15:00 -
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Edited by: IoWalker on 02/04/2011 01:17:42 Edited by: IoWalker on 02/04/2011 01:15:42 Many lo-sec gate camps are going to blow it up no questions asked. ANY competent gatecamp is going to blow it up almost immediately. you haul certain stuff in an Orca so that you can get illegal stuff like boosters to a hi-sec station. That's one use for it.
You wont just be Orca'ing stuff around from lo-to-high, or null-to-high without pretty hardcore coordination. To say the least.
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Brutalinator
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Posted - 2011.04.02 20:15:00 -
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Using digital boosters and then you have two lows for cargo expanders and wont have to waste one for pdu
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Mar Lee
An Army of None
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Posted - 2011.04.03 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: Brutalinator Using digital boosters and then you have two lows for cargo expanders and wont have to waste one for pdu
Good luck finding those, though :)
A 'Squire' PG8 or PG10 implant will also let you fit a 100mn microwarpdrive while leaving both lows free.
To be honest, though, I'd never fly an Orca without a DCII. It makes you almost as tanky as a freighter.
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2011.04.03 05:29:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones Post #7 was misinformed. The orca takes 20 seconds to align.
You should really own and understand how to operate an Orca before telling an Orca pilot they are wrong.
I do own and operate an Orca, and know quite well how they work. You are missing a little something though. My post on align times is based on an AFK pilot, in response to Tau posting about how he has "raced" a Charon against an Orca, both on autopilot, and the Charon finishing well ahead. So, I used EFT to get some base numbers for analysis. If you cycle a MWD or afterburner, the Orca will get into warp MUCH faster than a Charon will, but that won't happen on autopilot.
If you're on autopilot, they'll both take the long time to align, both warp to 15 from the gate, and both slowboat home from there. While the Orca will get into warp a few seconds faster and arrive probably a few seconds farther ahead, the extra minute required to slowboat from 15 to zero will result in the Charon getting there first. ______________________________________________________ PVP is a question that has no one right answer but a lot of wrong ones. - Aelana Anais
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.04.03 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Gavin DeVries
Originally by: Cipher Jones Post #7 was misinformed. The orca takes 20 seconds to align.
You should really own and understand how to operate an Orca before telling an Orca pilot they are wrong.
I do own and operate an Orca, and know quite well how they work. You are missing a little something though. My post on align times is based on an AFK pilot, in response to Tau posting about how he has "raced" a Charon against an Orca, both on autopilot, and the Charon finishing well ahead. So, I used EFT to get some base numbers for analysis. If you cycle a MWD or afterburner, the Orca will get into warp MUCH faster than a Charon will, but that won't happen on autopilot.
If you're on autopilot, they'll both take the long time to align, both warp to 15 from the gate, and both slowboat home from there. While the Orca will get into warp a few seconds faster and arrive probably a few seconds farther ahead, the extra minute required to slowboat from 15 to zero will result in the Charon getting there first.
Autopilots in eve get exactly what they deserve. I was speaking of plausible real world applications. Sorry that I did not specify. .
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Jester777
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Posted - 2011.04.03 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Barbara Nichole The Orca can handle the hauling. The max load on an Orca is 190951.3m3..if the Orca is rigged to the extreme.
wrong. the Orca with 2x T2 Large Cargohold Optimizations, 1x T1 Large Cargohold Optimization, & 2x Expanded Cargohold IIs, has a max Cargo (Ore Hold, Corp Hangar, & Regular Cargo Hold) of 100951m3 with all skills at L5, according to the EFT
this does NOT include the Ship Bay's 400km3
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Raina Rahl
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Posted - 2011.04.03 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jester777
wrong. the Orca with 2x T2 Large Cargohold Optimizations, 1x T1 Large Cargohold Optimization, & 2x Expanded Cargohold IIs, has a max Cargo (Ore Hold, Corp Hangar, & Regular Cargo Hold) of 100951m3 with all skills at L5, according to the EFT
this does NOT include the Ship Bay's 400km3
You miss read your EFT then because that 100951 m3 is cargo bay alone with that fitting.
30000 * 1.25 * 1.275 * 1.275 * 1.2 * 1.2 * 1.15 = 100951 m3
This your fitting you listed would have general cargo of 140951 m3 (cargo bay and corp hanger only) before resorting to giant secure cans. With giant secure cans the total cargo would be 182351 m3.
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2011.04.04 01:28:00 -
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The problem with secure cans is they can't hold anything bigger than 3900 m3. Works great if you're hauling a bunch of small stuff. However, try to fit two packaged frigates in a GSC; it won't go. Can't fit a cruiser in one at all. So that method really depends on what you're trying to haul around. ______________________________________________________ PVP is a question that has no one right answer but a lot of wrong ones. - Aelana Anais
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