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Yoshitaka Moromuo
Distant Light Galactic
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Posted - 2011.04.04 14:07:00 -
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The losses mentioned by Stalking Mantis are not disputed; however, CONCORD data can and does indicate that Distant Light Galactic withdrew its support from I-RED prior to the aforementioned operation. The matter surrounding such will not be discussed here.
Regardless, the losses suffered by [DISLG] pilots were minimal, and are easily recovered. Reparations or other remands will not be sought from [W-BR]. There is only the respectful request that the remainder of the 24-hour withdrawal-from-war period be honored.
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Blake Rathen
Caldari Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2011.04.04 14:36:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Stalking Mantis
---------------------------- Hand, Hilt and Blade
Some time agoà soon after the Dragon came and we had to leave Home behindà Blade, Hilt and Hand gathered in the Airkio woods, for they wanted to return.
First spoke Blade: ôI want my home back. I am swift. I am strong. I will fight.ö
Then spoke Hilt: ôYou are strong. But you are blind. You cut friend and foe. I will be your guide.ö
Last spoke Hand: ôYou are powerful. But you are tools. I will be the master you will serve. Home belongs to Flesh and Blood.ö
ThatÆs why we master Isk. For Isk has no friend and no foe, only many slaves and a few masters.
ThatÆs why we serve a Corporation. As long as the Corporation works towards Home, and as long as it guide Isk, and are not its slave.
And thatÆs why, always remember: Last comes Isk. Before comes Corp. Before Corp comes Blood.
And Home comes first. --------------------------
Thank you for this reminder - I agree that the education of such ideals should be important to all Caldari. Let me offer a reminder in return, of how the present conflict began: a Wolf's teeth went astray and blindly cut a friend, indicating to our loyal pilots that such a 'sword' needed guidance.
Among the fierce and determined responses of the Wolfsbrigage pilots in this discussion, one can hear and appreciate the declarations of loyalty to the State, and recognize the undercurrent of a sense of betrayal. But, can you also not see how we first felt betrayed? We took it upon ourselves, with a rather blunt domestic war, to combat a perceived injustice.
So, since we are both groups of brave Caldari who will not back down from our duties, I hope we can join together in remembering the Home we aim for, though our pursuits take different paths.
Until the idea of resolution firmly implants itself in our minds, I have no reason to doubt the present conflict will endure the gains, losses, and loyalties of all our determined pilots. Our principles demand our response to hostility. Will we continue to waste our efforts on this dispute? Will a Wolf's bite always cut blindly? ---
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Alain Colcer
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.04.04 15:07:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Dex Nederland
Originally by: X Gallentius I would like to remind everybody that the Caldari Militia does not support The State, just one faction within The State - The State Protectorate.
So the Gallente Militia does not support The Federation, just one faction within The Federation - The Federal Defense Union?
Monsieur Nederland, under my understanding of what faction means, within the Federation there are trillions of factions, each for every person and citizen that lives within the sovereign territory of the Federation.
As far as i understand, the Federal Defence Union (Tag FEDEF actually) answers to the Federal Navy High Command and to the current President, Jacus Roden.
If you mean by faction, an aligntment to the Progressists, Populists, Unionists, or any other political parties, i wouldn't be able to answer truthfully....but my guess is there are many of each within the organization.
But from my understand as to whom the State Protectorate Forces answers to, it's solely to Tibus Heth. He in particular is classified under the Patriots faction.
So it may sound correct to say, there are factions within the State, but not so within the Federation.
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.04.04 17:10:00 -
[154]
Edited by: X Gallentius on 04/04/2011 17:15:22
Originally by: Dex Nederland
So the Gallente Militia does not support The Federation, just one faction within The Federation - The Federal Defense Union?
Yes. We all like to believe we support the Federation, but in reality we support the FDU.
The Caldari are organized exactly along the same lines as the rest of New Eden, and so it's much easier to distinguish who the Caldari Militia are supporting.
In our case there are no proxy alliances from, say, Quafe, that have decided to fight us. It may have to do more with the fact that the solar systems make up the Federation, and not corporations that make up the State.
The only parallel I can think of is when the separatists in Intaki decided to ally themselves with the Caldari militia a couple years ago. They identified themselves with a solar system (Intaki), instead of a corporation (like Ishukone).
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Blake Rathen
Caldari Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2011.04.04 21:10:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Stalking Mantis
I refer you to post 13 of this thread to see who drew first blood. I can also produce to the forum the actual chat logs and evemails Wolfsbrigade sent to the diplomats and the CEO of IRED. Sadly at the time your leadership scoffed at us with some kind of 'you are pirates and will be dealt with as such' mentality.
I personally sent clarifications to the IRED diplomatic contact and got no reply in return. Then IRED declared War on us. Hence they bypassed all diplomatic channels and attempts in a misguided and unresearched choice to declare war.
Thank you for your ernest reply, Pilot Mantis.
Regarding the combat logs you discuss, I agree that they reveal the outcomes of those engagements; however, these data do not indicate how the engagements were initiated.
Please see entry 22 for the reply to entry 13. By that account, Wolfsbrigade ships who were deployed in close combat support with other Protectorate pilots first *engaged* I-RED ships. I-RED disengaged due to our view that your pilots were friendlies. After establishing communications, the Protectorate fleet indicated that they did not recognize I-RED as a friendly and therefore considered us valid targets. Subsequently both fleets engaged on that premise, resulting in causualities to both Wolfsbrigade and I-RED.
Next, please refer to entry 29, in which your Brigadier General states that prior to the engagement his pilots were unable to distinguish I-RED from 'pirates'. It would be interesting to learn if it is the written policy of Wolfsbrigade to engage any entity - let alone State loyalist organizations - prior to establishing a diplomatic position, or to support other Protectorate pilots who follow such reckless protocols.
From the above evidence, it becomes clear that I-RED actions have been proportionate and responsive to the hostile behaviour Protectorate pilots first presented. It should be clarified that following the initial engagement in which the above Protectorate corporations were found to be hostile toward I-RED, standings toward them were set to 'valid targets'. Therefore, prior to a CONCORD official war, Protectorate aggression - in word and deed - had already established a da facto state of war.
Regarding your attempts at communication, we have already dispatched engineers to examine the comms router functionality. It would be a devastating embarassment to our quality assurance technicians if your messages were not properly delivered. As for the diplomatic implications, it would be surprising and disappointing if due diligence was not performed; we were in a state of daily operations in this area of low security space combating pirate activities. With our forces constantly on the front lines, an expedient decision was required to ensure proper support for our pilots.
Please indicate if any critical details in the above have been omitted. I look forward to your response to conclude this dispute and resolve the outstanding accusations against I-RED, which are clearly in opposition to our rules of engagement and historical operations.
I trust these details will not be taken as further fuel for the war, but rather as a regrettable basis from which to move forward. It would be to both our benefits to not only cease hostilities, but more importantly, to resolve to prevent future misunderstandings with formal agreements and standings. ---
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Stalking Mantis
Caldari Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.04.04 23:18:00 -
[156]
Edited by: Stalking Mantis on 04/04/2011 23:21:31
Originally by: Blake Rathen Your Statement
After reviewing post 22 of this thread I would like to clarify the following:
1-In our warzone we recognize only three kinds of pilots. A-Gallente War Targets B-Pirates (Red Outlaws also known as æpiesÆ by lowsec lingo) C-Neutrals. Without going into what degree each of these three is treated (various shades of grey) I believe for the sake of this I will only refer to those three.
2-As far as I know we never had any standings with IRED prior to this so any æblue standingÆ you may have had with pilots fighting for the state would be a result of you diplomats setting automatic blue standing for the Caldari State. i.e. anyone in militia would show up as blue to you as a result of this.
3-Prior to these unfortunate incidents if we were to see an IRED fleet roaming the warzone they would show up to us as æneutralÆ
4-As explained before many a pilot fighting for the state can show up as a pirate due to said pilots sometimes aggressing what may seem like a neutral but would be in actuality a gallente agent, pirate corporation hauler/logistics pilot or any other æshade of greyÆ that one would understand when conducting day to day operations in this warzone. Not to mention a few over aggressive pilots that have been known to hide behind the milita banner but be a pirate at heart. Hence it is of the utmost importance for any new militia member to accurately set up his overview and cases of this friendly fire are a daily occurrence with any militia.
Bearing in mind the above I believe what happened to be as follows:
A: Someone from IRED engaged a militia pilot with negative standing under the assumption they were pirates. (see inaccurate overview settings)
B:A call was made out in the intel channels about a fleet ægoing pieÆ on a fellow militia member (something that happens about 10 times an hour in low security space)
C: Wolfsbrigade pilots were sent out to deal with what may have appeared to be a fleet ægoing pieÆ therefore fully making themselves a valid target for anyone in space. (See Global Criminal Countdown)
D:From here both IRED and WBR both assume they engaged valid pirates and the rest as they say is history
While the above is by no means a statement of facts it is my assumption on what has happened. Be that as it may the fact remains you have declared war on us disregarding diplomatic channels despite us trying said channels. The war is now mutual and this much is fact. Perhaps in the future more RESEARCH and GUIDANCE needs to be in effect before bluntly pushing the declare war button.
Enjoy your tea.
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Dex Nederland
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2011.04.05 00:45:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Alain Colcer As far as i understand, the Federal Defence Union (Tag FEDEF actually) answers to the Federal Navy High Command and to the current President, Jacus Roden.
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But from my understand as to whom the State Protectorate Forces answers to, it's solely to Tibus Heth. He in particular is classified under the Patriots faction.
So it may sound correct to say, there are factions within the State, but not so within the Federation.
Originally by: The Caldari are not organized exactly along the same lines as the rest of New Eden, and so it's much easier to distinguish who the Caldari Militia are supporting.
*italics indicated added word
Colcer-jagii & Gallentius-jagii, it seems you have taken a liberty of defining a system which you are neither part of nor fully understand. I could infer that the FDU is controlled by Mentas Blaque and his Black Eagles and not actually by the President or Federal Navy in a parallel to your own inference.
On what premise do you attribute leadership of the State Protectorate & associated forces to be solely under Tibus Heth? Rewarding/sponoring medals to an organization's members does not mean the person is the organization's leader, but rather that the person wants to recongize what he/she believes to be a momentuos achievement.
KK is likely heavily invested in supporting the State Protectorate, but so are other corporations to varying degrees. In addition is the level of investment in the development rights auction, those corproations with the most invested have the most to gain from the State Protectorate's success (hint).
Tibus Heth self-identifies as a Caldari Patriot and he is the CEO of Kaalakiota, but that does not mean that all those who claim to be Caldari Patriots follow Kaalakiota's CEO blindly or even for the same purpose. As an example, you need look no further than the Caldari Independent Navy Reserve (link 1 & 2). Another example would be if/when my corporation is part of the State's militia forces, our interest would likely not include Intaki or Old Man Star.
But I understand your desire to "keep it simple" and attempt to divide the State's various corporate factions in order to better your own position.
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Hamish Grayson
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2011.04.05 02:03:00 -
[158]
Heth is not Kaalakiota. ============================================
It is said the warrior's is the twofold way of pen and sword |
Sylorin
Caldari MMZ Laboratories LLC
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Posted - 2011.04.05 04:57:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Hamish Grayson Heth is not Kaalakiota.
Correct. He's (techniclly speaking) Caldari Constructions.
EVELopedia has an error though and lists him as CEO of Kaalakiota.
*The opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the opinions of MMZ Labs, LLC. |
X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.04.05 05:45:00 -
[160]
The Caldari government is not organized by corporations? Hmm, my Federation textbooks must be mistaken.
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/681800
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Stalking Mantis
Caldari Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.04.05 07:02:00 -
[161]
Originally by: X Gallentius The Caldari government is not organized by corporations? Hmm, my Federation textbooks must be mistaken.
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/681800
BAH your textbooks. Did you read this? http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=29-06-09 ----------
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Chicken W1ng
Caldari Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.04.05 11:46:00 -
[162]
Edited by: Chicken W1ng on 05/04/2011 11:47:02
Originally by: Marrano Cardosa Edited by: Marrano Cardosa on 03/04/2011 15:52:36 Is Wolfsbrigade in the habit of thinking that wars are a handful of engagements? Let me assure you that the war has barely begun and these initial skirmishes will have little impact on the final outcome.
I-RED members obviously don't seem to know how wars work. Also, you should leave the protection of the state simply to those whose occupation being a soldier of the state is. The longer I-RED continues with this senseless struggle, the more damage they will cause to themselves, while not achieving anything that would help the state.
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Dex Nederland
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2011.04.05 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: X Gallentius The Caldari government is not organized by corporations?
The State is a confederation of corporations. What little central government exist is a collaborative project/joint venture between the member corporations (largely the megacorporations). There are webs of investment linking the various corporations together in various ways.
The State Protectorate is not the Caldari Provisional Directorate. The first is a space-based capsuleer corporation, the second is an extra-corporate organization built around the persona of Tibus Heth. The State Protectorate was formed from the same CONCORD act that formed the [FEDEF], [24IC], and [TLF].
Originally by: Sylorin
Originally by: Hamish Grayson Heth is not Kaalakiota.
Correct. He's (techniclly speaking) Caldari Constructions.
EVELopedia has an error though and lists him as CEO of Kaalakiota.
I do not think Hamish-suulo was indicating that Tibus Heth is not the CEO of Caldari Constructions, Ytiri, and Kaalakiota, but rather Tibus Heth does not represent the totality of what Kaalakiota was, is, or will be.
The entry is likely in reference to this news item.
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Bluejacket CT
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.04.05 14:03:00 -
[164]
I'm amazed that no other FDU pilots have publicly criticized this alliance. Corporations like my own have become friendly with a subsidiary of a corporate entity which we are currently at war with. In my opinion, Heydieles has sold out to a hostile mega-corporation in order to acquire small strategic gains (i.e. combat boosters and logistical support). If the Union is willing to ally with the subsidiaries of Caldari mega-corporations, why does it bother flying the Federal colors at all?
What the CEOs of Heydieles have done is tantamount to betraying the ideals that they had sworn to protect.
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Korsavius
Minmatar Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2011.04.05 15:37:00 -
[165]
Edited by: Korsavius on 05/04/2011 15:40:57
Originally by: Bluejacket CT I'm amazed that no other FDU pilots have publicly criticized this alliance. Corporations like my own have become friendly with a subsidiary of a corporate entity which we are currently at war with. In my opinion, Heydieles has sold out to a hostile mega-corporation in order to acquire small strategic gains (i.e. combat boosters and logistical support). If the Union is willing to ally with the subsidiaries of Caldari mega-corporations, why does it bother flying the Federal colors at all?
What the CEOs of Heydieles have done is tantamount to betraying the ideals that they had sworn to protect.
On the contrary, you and your fellow pilots who serve and work alongside FEDEF have sworn to protect the Federation against those of the State who attack you or your Federation. If you had the slightest clue about Ishukone policies and ideals then you would understand this "alliance" is a step towards achieving a peace between the State and Federation. Of course, the younger generations seem to have the most aggression and tendency to lean towards destructive violence rather than progressive treaties.
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Bluejacket CT
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.04.05 15:59:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Korsavius
On the contrary, you and your fellow pilots who serve and work alongside FEDEF have sworn to protect the Federation against those of the State who attack you or your Federation. If you had the slightest clue about Ishukone policies and ideals then you would understand this "alliance" is a step towards achieving a peace between the State and Federation. Of course, the younger generations seem to have the most aggression and tendency to lean towards destructive violence rather than progressive treaties.
How can you pull out the "violence card" when your alliance declared war against and have shown much hostility towards Wolfsbrigade (whom you wouldn't have been able to combat had you not bought your way into Heydieles)? Most of the people whom you are now allied with have been aggressive and violent for a long time, but only now have sold out to your organization. Gallenteans should value civil liberties and the social contract over corporate interest, but we can all see now that much of the leadership of the FDU have compromised and cheapened the values that they (supposedly) champion. This is the culmination of a severe downward spiral within the Federation; including and certainly not limited to the rise of President Roden. Corporations operating within our space - of any ethnicity or government - need to be whipped into regulation lest we lose our identity and become the newest autocracy in the galaxy.
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Diana Kim
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.04.05 18:28:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Marrano Cardosa The reason no gallente militia ships were detroyed in that time frame was that in the region we were operating, no gallente militia pilots were encountered who met ROI requirements to be destroyed.
Now that was biased.
Originally by: Marrano Cardosa As for declaring war on Wolfsbrigade, they had regularly been engaging our patrols and we had had enough.
It was stated above why your patrols were engaged. Im not in the mood to repeat it again. Please read it.
Originally by: Marrano Cardosa And they continue to lie about what started the conflict between us.
Obviously YOUR war declaration and peace with several gallente corporations. Well, what about mutual attacks between Caldari forces and I-RED, no negotiations were made to solve it (at least I know nothing about it). On the other hand, negotiations with gallentes were confirmed in Q-CATs topic.
Originally by: Marrano Cardosa And do you not see the irony of taking the word of a pirate affiliated organization on matters of who is dealing with pirates?
Being too much into that 'pirate' hypocrisy lately, ain't you? Oh, maybe you were talking about I-RED as a pirate affiliated because of their confirmed NBSI policy in their region, eh?
Originally by: Marrano Cardosa Edited by: Marrano Cardosa on 03/04/2011 15:52:36 Is Wolfsbrigade in the habit of thinking that wars are a handful of engagements? Let me assure you that the war has barely begun and these initial skirmishes will have little impact on the final outcome.
So, you say, that the war has barely begun? For you - maybe. But for us war is what we do every day!
DEATH TO THE TRAITOROUS ALLIANCE!
D.Kim, Colonel --- We live and die for the State |
sYnc Vir
Caldari Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.04.06 04:09:00 -
[168]
Edited by: sYnc Vir on 06/04/2011 04:10:08 Could someone point out to the rp'ers that living in lowsec FW means you only log in to go to war. Im not sure anyone in Wolfs actually care you wardec'ed us anymore. I know I dont. Everytime I see one of your pilots in local they are in a station and remain there for hours on end.
We like good fights.
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Marrano Cardosa
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2011.04.16 14:24:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Stalking Mantis Edited by: Stalking Mantis on 04/04/2011 23:21:31
Originally by: Blake Rathen Your Statement
After reviewing post 22 of this thread I would like to clarify the following:
1-In our warzone we recognize only three kinds of pilots. A-Gallente War Targets B-Pirates (Red Outlaws also known as æpiesÆ by lowsec lingo) C-Neutrals. Without going into what degree each of these three is treated (various shades of grey) I believe for the sake of this I will only refer to those three.
2-As far as I know we never had any standings with IRED prior to this so any æblue standingÆ you may have had with pilots fighting for the state would be a result of you diplomats setting automatic blue standing for the Caldari State. i.e. anyone in militia would show up as blue to you as a result of this.
3-Prior to these unfortunate incidents if we were to see an IRED fleet roaming the warzone they would show up to us as æneutralÆ
4-As explained before many a pilot fighting for the state can show up as a pirate due to said pilots sometimes aggressing what may seem like a neutral but would be in actuality a gallente agent, pirate corporation hauler/logistics pilot or any other æshade of greyÆ that one would understand when conducting day to day operations in this warzone. Not to mention a few over aggressive pilots that have been known to hide behind the milita banner but be a pirate at heart. Hence it is of the utmost importance for any new militia member to accurately set up his overview and cases of this friendly fire are a daily occurrence with any militia.
Bearing in mind the above I believe what happened to be as follows:
A: Someone from IRED engaged a militia pilot with negative standing under the assumption they were pirates. (see inaccurate overview settings)
B:A call was made out in the intel channels about a fleet ægoing pieÆ on a fellow militia member (something that happens about 10 times an hour in low security space)
C: Wolfsbrigade pilots were sent out to deal with what may have appeared to be a fleet ægoing pieÆ therefore fully making themselves a valid target for anyone in space. (See Global Criminal Countdown)
D:From here both IRED and WBR both assume they engaged valid pirates and the rest as they say is history
While the above is by no means a statement of facts it is my assumption on what has happened. Be that as it may the fact remains you have declared war on us disregarding diplomatic channels despite us trying said channels. The war is now mutual and this much is fact. Perhaps in the future more RESEARCH and GUIDANCE needs to be in effect before bluntly pushing the declare war button.
Enjoy your tea.
Well, no ,not quite. I was in the fleet that Wolfsbrigde engaged. We were roaming around low sec looking for reds to engage and entered a system where Wolfsbridge and other militia were present. Friend chat ensued, initiated by the militia pilots to John and others in our fleet. Find no reds in that system we proceeded down the pipe a few more jumps and camped a gate. The militia fleet (with many of its pilotes set blue to us because of an earlier joint operation in Intaki) then entered the system where we were camped and engaged us. We withdrew and set them as valid targets and then a running battle ensured.
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Marrano Cardosa
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2011.04.16 14:27:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Chicken W1ng Edited by: Chicken W1ng on 05/04/2011 11:47:02
Originally by: Marrano Cardosa Edited by: Marrano Cardosa on 03/04/2011 15:52:36 Is Wolfsbrigade in the habit of thinking that wars are a handful of engagements? Let me assure you that the war has barely begun and these initial skirmishes will have little impact on the final outcome.
I-RED members obviously don't seem to know how wars work. Also, you should leave the protection of the state simply to those whose occupation being a soldier of the state is. The longer I-RED continues with this senseless struggle, the more damage they will cause to themselves, while not achieving anything that would help the state.
So that would be a yes. As for damage to the State, seems to me that it is YOUR job to hold systems the State has taken, but that hasn't been happening lately.
Perhaps rather than attacking corporations ingaged in legitimate commerce you and yours should be paying more attention to taking and holding space for the Caldari State?
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Marrano Cardosa
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2011.04.16 14:31:00 -
[171]
Originally by: sYnc Vir Edited by: sYnc Vir on 06/04/2011 04:10:08 Could someone point out to the those living in lowsec FW means you only log in to go to war. Im not sure anyone in Wolfs actually care you wardec'ed us anymore. I know I dont. Everytime I see one of your pilots in local they are in a station and remain there for hours on end.
We like good fights.
So the pilot who destroyed your corporations Orca did it from within a station? I will certainly have to ask him what weapon he used, as I must get one too!
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Diana Kim
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.04.16 18:14:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Marrano Cardosa
So that would be a yes. As for damage to the State, seems to me that it is YOUR job to hold systems the State has taken, but that hasn't been happening lately.
Perhaps rather than attacking corporations ingaged in legitimate commerce you and yours should be paying more attention to taking and holding space for the Caldari State?
And your job is not to get into State affairs since you are fighting together with gallente militia. Unfortunately, we can't pay much attention to systems, because we have to deal with numerous traitors, declaring wars on our corporations, have any leads who they are? ;)
And we DO NOT attack legitimate commerce organizations, only those, who mess with our agenda in the warzone (or declaring wars on us?). You want to attack Caldari militia members? Your choice. But be prepared for consequences. We are the frontline of the State's defences, and we will protect the State, even if it means losing our lives to another traitorous alliance. --- We live and die for the State |
Gallactica
Gallente Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2011.04.17 18:24:00 -
[173]
Shadows of The Federation will not sit by and watch our old friends I-Red fight alone - Wolfsbrigade, you have less than 24 hours until the start of your demise.
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Julianus Soter
Gallente Moira.
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Posted - 2011.04.17 18:35:00 -
[174]
Wait, what? Ishuk-Raata, the group that declared war on Federal Defense Union corporations during the successful campaigns against Caldari occupation forces in Placid, is now the target of assistance as they have blundered themselves into a war against their Caldari kinsmen?
I don't suppose the people in the Federation deserve some kind of explanation on why you figure this is a good use of time, Gallactica?
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Gabriel Darkefyre
Minmatar Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2011.04.17 19:41:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Julianus Soter Wait, what? Ishuk-Raata, the group that declared war on Federal Defense Union corporations during the successful campaigns against Caldari occupation forces in Placid, is now the target of assistance as they have blundered themselves into a war against their Caldari kinsmen?
I don't suppose the people in the Federation deserve some kind of explanation on why you figure this is a good use of time, Gallactica?
Pilot Soter, perhaps in 24 Hours our intent will be clearer. As it stands, our Corporation is currently tied up in CONCORD Red Tape. We will be assisting I-RED in their Private Conflict with Wolfsbrigade, however that particular goal happens to coincide with our other ongoing activities.
After Discussions with High Ranking members of the FDU Command Structure, once these Administrative difficulties are Cleared, we will be reactivating our Commission for the Federation and returning to the Frontlines as an Active Part of the Militia for a Tour of Duty. ---------------
Image from Crumplecorn's DesuSigs |
Annie Anomie
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2011.04.17 19:55:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Julianus Soter Wait, what? Ishuk-Raata, the group that declared war on Federal Defense Union corporations during the successful campaigns against Caldari occupation forces in Placid, is now the target of assistance as they have blundered themselves into a war against their Caldari kinsmen?
I don't suppose the people in the Federation deserve some kind of explanation on why you figure this is a good use of time, Gallactica?
No.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.04.17 21:03:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Julianus Soter I don't suppose the people in the Federation deserve some kind of explanation on why you figure this is a good use of time, Gallactica?
I didn't realise Shadows of the Federation were directly accountable to the Federation's people.
Or, considering that Wolfsbrigade are enemies of the Federation, that fighting them represents any conflict of interest on SotF's part. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Diana Kim
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.04.17 21:03:00 -
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YC113.04.17 Otawasa constellation Oshaima planet X Wolfsbrigade skirmish fleet high orbiting moon 1 Mission report
I-RED military outpost in Oshaima solar system was destroyed by State forces, effectively eliminating constant foe presence in the said system and threats to security of the State. No losses were incurred to the attacking side.
Glory to the State!
Reporting officer: Colonel D. Kim --- We live and die for the State |
Bluejacket CT
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.04.18 00:58:00 -
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Sure is getting blobby out here...
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Diana Kim
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.04.19 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Bluejacket CT Sure is getting blobby out here...
Do not worry, we remember and will pay you a warming visit after we finish with the traitors --- We live and die for the State |
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