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CthulhusSpaceTrip
Nonsense Inc.
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Posted - 2011.04.01 18:26:00 -
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the old INFOD vids were much better: Damigecontrol I + II = win! it wasnt that entertainy! Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie |
NightmareX
Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.01 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: CthulhusSpaceTrip the old INFOD vids were much better: Damigecontrol I + II = win! it wasnt that entertainy!
Ofc DaMiGe's movies is much better. But piracy back in the days with the old INFOD (yes i was in the old INFOD for over a year) was 50 times better than it is today. It's sad but true.
I'm not saying piracy is bad or dead today, i'm just saying it was much better some years ago.
But i'll think everybody agree that you have to start somewhere on a movie and build you up to be much better and so on.
The first Lock'n Load movie from DaMiGe wasn't THAT good either, but when you see how much better his movies got after some few more releases, then you see what i'm talking about.
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Tjarish
Super Batungwaa Ninja Warriors Waterboard
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Posted - 2011.04.01 18:52:00 -
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Ok so I watched it..
The Intro is really good. Well done on that. The fights weren't terrible. Those are the state of Eve PVP.
As for the ship control comments, yes. There is work to be done there. But I think your locking of targets may also be down to the FC. In most cases you only have 1 target locked. And you sit there waiting for something with 4 locked targets at 5km, lock something else and then shoot it.
In that time you could have been shooting something you had locked already. Or the FC should be calling 2/3 targets and not just one. Without the comms, its hard to tell.
Back on the vid side, I assume English isn't your first language. I would suggest for the next vid, get someone in the alliance who has English as a first language to read over the scripts and get the wording right.
Its not the end of the world, but its enough to annoy me.
You also write a story about "x ships killed for x losses" bullet points would be better:
Quote: Kills: 10 - Battlecruisers 5 - Cruisers 2 - Falcons
Losses: 0
Good first attempt, will look out for the next one.
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NightmareX
Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.01 19:06:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 01/04/2011 19:08:03
Originally by: Tjarish Ok so I watched it..
The Intro is really good. Well done on that. The fights weren't terrible. Those are the state of Eve PVP.
As for the ship control comments, yes. There is work to be done there. But I think your locking of targets may also be down to the FC. In most cases you only have 1 target locked. And you sit there waiting for something with 4 locked targets at 5km, lock something else and then shoot it.
In that time you could have been shooting something you had locked already. Or the FC should be calling 2/3 targets and not just one. Without the comms, its hard to tell.
Back on the vid side, I assume English isn't your first language. I would suggest for the next vid, get someone in the alliance who has English as a first language to read over the scripts and get the wording right.
Its not the end of the world, but its enough to annoy me.
You also write a story about "x ships killed for x losses" bullet points would be better:
Quote: Kills: 10 - Battlecruisers 5 - Cruisers 2 - Falcons
Losses: 0
Good first attempt, will look out for the next one.
Ok, thanks for that.
Yeah, those things you mention here now is mentioned earlier, so this is something that absolutely will be looked into on my next movie.
Yep, English is not my main language. I'm actually from Norway. So i'm gonna let someone that is very good in English to go through my text next time to see if he can fix spelling errors and so on.
EDIT: While i remember it. You asked for MKV version of my movie. Is there really a point in that when the MP4 version of my movie have the H.264 codec?
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Tjarish
Super Batungwaa Ninja Warriors Waterboard
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Posted - 2011.04.01 22:38:00 -
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Its just easier... I go for the MKV version as its normally smaller.
I know the stuff was mentioned earlier, I was giving my view on potential reasons. Looking forward to the next edition.
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NightmareX
Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.01 22:47:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 01/04/2011 22:49:07
Originally by: Tjarish Its just easier... I go for the MKV version as its normally smaller.
I know the stuff was mentioned earlier, I was giving my view on potential reasons. Looking forward to the next edition.
Well, i can't take the original movie project and export the project to lossless .avi file and convert that to .mkv since the fraps footages are deleted now since i have released the movie. Yes, this way is the only way to get the movie to mkv format. So that is actually way more work to do and it takes ALOT longer time to encode it to mkv.
So the only way now is to encode the mp4 version to mkv with much lower bitrate, like 3k or 4k Mbps.
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The Djego
Minmatar Hellequin Inc.
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Posted - 2011.04.01 23:48:00 -
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Since you asked here is a short list of improvements for using a Mega in a RR gang:
- switch to Null(should be the default ammo in a RR gang anyway if it don't end up in a BS vs BS point blank slug down) - switch targets, shooting something 40+ km away even with Null is pointless, pick up your own target if you have a closer one, it is still better than dealing no DPS at all in the end for your gang - move the mega, serious a lot of what makes it acceptable in this kinds of gangs is to go out and put webs/scrams on targets in the 12-24km range to improve gang tackle/damage applied - fit a large cap booster and dual RR, the mega will not be the primary for a lot of gang types today, so make the best of it to maximize the RR ability if you can't fight the target effectively at least contribute a solid RR performance to your gang - close/starting from the position of the underdog position fights are a lot more fun to watch, something where people spread out a bit on the battlefield to reduce DPS and go after support till they break the backbone of the other gang and force them to leave ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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DHB WildCat
Flash Over. WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2011.04.02 04:46:00 -
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Filtering throught the smack here is my third party opinion.
First off dont waste your time watching this vid past the intro.... Now for some points
1) Best INTRO ever!!!!! Period!
2) Piloting skill on the Mega made me want to punch babies.... shooting rounds of antimatter at targets up to 50km away!? Really?
3) Every fight was a Blob.... was like watching the NC in low sec. Even the close fights were in numbers only... force multipliers (logis) always in the favor of Infod. Logi fights are boring and suck!
4) There were even several minute long clips about how the hot dropped Vindis / Machs and missed them.... clips about missing targets!
Please dont post this kind of crap on public forums, keep it to yourself and save us 20 mins of our life. You have great skill as a editor but the fights you and your alliance get suck ass.
WildCat
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whispous
Gallente NibbleTek Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.04.02 07:51:00 -
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Over-edited junk, and all the text at the end was super arrogant.
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whispous
Gallente NibbleTek Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.04.02 07:57:00 -
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Double posting to say:
All of you who post AS AN EXCUSE "waaah it's my first video"
Obviously you know it's bad. So why release it.
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CthulhusSpaceTrip
Nonsense Inc.
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Posted - 2011.04.02 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: CthulhusSpaceTrip the old INFOD vids were much better: Damigecontrol I + II = win! it wasnt that entertainy!
Ofc DaMiGe's movies is much better. But piracy back in the days with the old INFOD (yes i was in the old INFOD for over a year) was 50 times better than it is today. It's sad but true.
I'm not saying piracy is bad or dead today, i'm just saying it was much better some years ago.
But i'll think everybody agree that you have to start somewhere on a movie and build you up to be much better and so on.
The first Lock'n Load movie from DaMiGe wasn't THAT good either, but when you see how much better his movies got after some few more releases, then you see what i'm talking about.
kinda true...have been pirate for 80% of my evelife and then I had a 1,5 year break...I was a lil disappointed when I came back xD Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie |
NightmareX
Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.02 11:27:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 02/04/2011 11:33:47
Originally by: DHB WildCat Filtering throught the smack here is my third party opinion.
First off dont waste your time watching this vid past the intro.... Now for some points
1) Best INTRO ever!!!!! Period!
2) Piloting skill on the Mega made me want to punch babies.... shooting rounds of antimatter at targets up to 50km away!? Really?
3) Every fight was a Blob.... was like watching the NC in low sec. Even the close fights were in numbers only... force multipliers (logis) always in the favor of Infod. Logi fights are boring and suck!
4) There were even several minute long clips about how the hot dropped Vindis / Machs and missed them.... clips about missing targets!
Please dont post this kind of crap on public forums, keep it to yourself and save us 20 mins of our life. You have great skill as a editor but the fights you and your alliance get suck ass.
WildCat
Ok, first of all, you need to take a chill pill.
Secondly. What i do in my movie have nothing to do with how the alliance in it self are. If you think the alliance sucks only because i did a more poorer job this time, then you are doing something wrong.
And not only that. It's my first time in a Mega on TQ. I forgot to say that earlier. I have used a Vindicator for a while though, but that ship have mainly been used in high-sec.
You call our fights blob?, do you even know what a blob is?
Apparently not.
And i'm not sure if you did see it, but in the first fight we had 4x logistics while the enemies had 4x logistics to. We was outnumbered to. So why you call that a blob and boring because we had logistics is funny. But i agree though that few of the other fights was kinda outnumbered.
The last fight wasn't directly outnumbered to. They had logistics like we did and they wanted to fight us there. So i see no problrms there.
But, do you even know why we fight all the time with such Battleships and Logistics numbers?
First of all you should come to Hagilur and live there for 1 or 2 weeks, then you will see what i'm talking about.
And to the last thing about the 2 clips where we didn't kill anything. Can i ask if you really did read the NOTE i wrote in my first post?
Originally by: whispous Double posting to say:
All of you who post AS AN EXCUSE "waaah it's my first video"
Obviously you know it's bad. So why release it.
Nice excuse there
EDIT: It's funny to see all of the Pandemic Legion guys who think i have to be a PVP god or be 100% perfect on what i'm doing even in my first movie.
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cRazYf1St
Order of Anarchy
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Posted - 2011.04.02 11:49:00 -
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nice video, editing was nice as well. Just a shame about the fights =/ too ganky for my liking. Don't think it was worth putting the vindi part in either, titan footage was pretty though :) great first try i'd say
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Tjarish
Super Batungwaa Ninja Warriors Waterboard
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Posted - 2011.04.02 12:52:00 -
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Suggest you watch the vids with Wildcat before you say he doesnt know what he is talking about.
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NightmareX
Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.02 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tjarish Suggest you watch the vids with Wildcat before you say he doesnt know what he is talking about.
I have seen all of his videos.
But he's extremely harsh to someone that have never released a video before, that's the thing here. Well, except for the intro heh.
Many of those who replies here thinks that anyone that releases a video have to be some kind of PVP god or do everything 100% right in a movie before you can release one.
I have got many good points on what i can improve and i'm happy for that. Those things will be much better on my next release.
I'm not the guy who release a video to print a wall over the whole forum that says i'm a PVP god. I'm releasing a video to learn and to get much better at making videos. That's the whole point here though.
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Jalif
Minmatar NibbleTek
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Posted - 2011.04.02 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 02/04/2011 13:11:44
Originally by: Tjarish Suggest you watch the vids with Wildcat before you say he doesnt know what he is talking about.
I have seen all of his videos. But you have to remember on how much more isk he have than i / others do. And just because he have more isk than me / others doesn't automaticly means that he HAVE to be better than others FYI.
I could have done the same stunts as him if i have had the isk to do it.
But he's extremely harsh to someone that have never released a video before, that's the thing here. Well, except for the intro heh.
Many of those who replies here thinks that anyone that releases a video have to be some kind of PVP god or do everything 100% right in a movie before you can release one.
I have got many good points on what i can improve and i'm happy for that. Those things will be much better on my next release.
I'm not the guy who release a video to print a wall over the whole forum that says i'm a PVP god. I'm releasing a video to learn and to get much better at making videos. That's the whole point here though.
ISK isn't a factor where a pvp video will be good or bad. It is you personally do with that ship. You couldn't have done the same stunts at all because you simply don't have the experience. You don't have the balls to do the above. You run directly when there is even a small chance of loosing your ship.
You are not saying that you are a PVP-GOD BUT you making a goddamn excuse for every single argument somebody makes.
Neither this is your first pvp-video - you made a couple videos before and people were still negative about it.
If people say you are ****, suck it up and deal with it (like a real pirate) and keep on moving and stop making excuses. You are making yourself only look worse by each post you are making.
You have put yourself and your alliance to shame. INFOD will never ever become like they were before if you keep on doing the same stuff.
And FYI and that of everybody else. Listen to your alliance mates as they actually advised you not to post this video publicly.
I see a wonderfull future for your alliance and Infod.
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Posted a good criticized post before, but you simply ignored it and are talking yourself up by making other post look they are worth noting (such as the one as wildcat)
TL;DR: YOU.SUCK & DEAL.WITH.IT
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DHB WildCat
Flash Over. WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2011.04.02 14:26:00 -
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Edited by: DHB WildCat on 02/04/2011 14:29:06 Okay in response to your... "We dont BLOB, do you even know what a blob is?" comment.
I think this is why you may think the footage is decent and the rest of the people that pvp think its aweful.
First of - "Force Multipliers" These are ships that are able to negate several other ships.... examples. (Falcons, Logistics, RR BS blob) So your even fights with force multipliers was equal to you having three times the enemy numbers even if they had one or two more guys on the field.
Also - Personally I fly expensive ships to help combat the blob.... however numbers is not the only thing I take into account. And the isk and mods is not why I am able to win fights!
My primary selections is based on recon. Meaning....
1) Force Multipliers - Primary (falcons / curses / pilgrims) 2) Range DPS / HP - Secondary (High dps ships but lower HP (deimos / brutix / hurricanes / zealots) 3) Player Age - Age plays a huge factor in tank and dps... take out the youngins first and the you negate dps / and morale. 4)Damage Type - If you get this far.... take out ships that have bonuses to the damage type you are weak against.
PVP is not just point and click like you seem to think it is. I know all this info about the gang / fleet im fighting before I fight them. Your vid was just .... sit in a blob F1..... dont hit anything, smack PIGS (who will also be in my next vid), Force multiplier Blob some more.........
WildCat
Oh yeah and I think the last video you made was when Kai and I was FC'ing a fleet to kill several Razor Moms on a station.... so not your first vid, maybe 4th or 5th?
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NightmareX
Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.02 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 02/04/2011 14:53:40
Originally by: DHB WildCat Edited by: DHB WildCat on 02/04/2011 14:29:06 Okay in response to your... "We dont BLOB, do you even know what a blob is?" comment.
I think this is why you may think the footage is decent and the rest of the people that pvp think its aweful.
First of - "Force Multipliers" These are ships that are able to negate several other ships.... examples. (Falcons, Logistics, RR BS blob) So your even fights with force multipliers was equal to you having three times the enemy numbers even if they had one or two more guys on the field.
Also - Personally I fly expensive ships to help combat the blob.... however numbers is not the only thing I take into account. And the isk and mods is not why I am able to win fights!
My primary selections is based on recon. Meaning....
1) Force Multipliers - Primary (falcons / curses / pilgrims) 2) Range DPS / HP - Secondary (High dps ships but lower HP (deimos / brutix / hurricanes / zealots) 3) Player Age - Age plays a huge factor in tank and dps... take out the youngins first and the you negate dps / and morale. 4)Damage Type - If you get this far.... take out ships that have bonuses to the damage type you are weak against.
PVP is not just point and click like you seem to think it is. I know all this info about the gang / fleet im fighting before I fight them. Your vid was just .... sit in a blob F1..... dont hit anything, smack PIGS (who will also be in my next vid), Force multiplier Blob some more.........
WildCat
Oh yeah and I think the last video you made was when Kai and I was FC'ing a fleet to kill several Razor Moms on a station.... so not your first vid, maybe 4th or 5th?
That thing with the Motherships wasn't really a movie, it was to show the killing of the motherships. That "movie" was put together in 30 mins.
So except for that one, then this is the first REAL movie i have released.
And before you can understand why we fight with the numbers we have, then you should come to Hagilur and see for you're self on what kind of BLOBS we are talking about.
Or just to give you a hint on what we are facing, then look here and here.
Does it makes any sense to you now on why we use the numbers we have?
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Fon Revedhort
Monks of War DarkSide.
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Posted - 2011.04.02 15:06:00 -
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Posting here just to make one thing clear for everyone (though many may have already guessed it):
that was us in our Vindies looking for a fight and going for it, not you . Thinking you may sit there shooting fish in a barrel and 'come across' someone of non-newbish caliber is just... er... naive.
I was in doubt whether I should include that episode in the next movie of mine, but now I'm absolutely sure I shall. No need to say it looked a bit different from our POV, to say the least.
As for the vid itself, dude, you've already got a bunch of comprehensive replies. I can only second them. Yeap, the intro was cool, but somewhat too long - match previews were excessive, - and the rest is... well, you've got it.
Almost everyone did start with something poor or at best mediocre (inlcuding myself - I mean, go watch Amarrian Purist I...III), but arguing won't make your stuff look any better, especially when conducted with recognized authors/PvPers.
Get out of your blob, bask yourself into a warm glow of risk and adrenaline rush and you'll get some sick footage.
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Shivalla
Gallente Financial Removal THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2011.04.02 15:46:00 -
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Edited by: Shivalla on 02/04/2011 15:52:00 Edited by: Shivalla on 02/04/2011 15:51:46
Quote: And before you can understand why we fight with the numbers we have, then you should come to Hagilur and see for you're self on what kind of BLOBS we are talking about.
We PIGS have been fighting Obsidian Front, Tempest Legion, IVY, Chupas, etc for past 4 years just well without having fleets of logistics and force multiplier ships.
Your excuse is just merely rattling of words.
I would love to call out Obsidian Front/Tempest Legion/IVY etc to this thread to explain how the fights between the said fleets have been, and how the end results have been, since as you say "you need to be as is, because there is blobs"
For sake of further explanations and excuses, I am not going to be explaining anything to you NightmareX, since you wont listen to whatever I say.
So, lets hope I get the response from OF/TL/IVY.
Sincerely yours,
Shivalla
PS: I still cannot understand how you accuse us for batphoning these blobs because we have fought em for past years here.
PPS: Listening to what I/we have to say might actually prove useful if you can get past the admitting that you just dont know enough.
PPS: Here for example is a situation where we fought against IVY with 1:3 odds, and well, the results are what they are, but yeah anyway.
http://pigs.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=8795726
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NightmareX
Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.02 15:49:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 02/04/2011 15:51:21
Originally by: Shivalla I am not going to be explaining anything to you NightmareX, since you wont listen to whatever I say.
No one is listening to what you are saying, because you're mostly trolling and smacking.
We know what kind of blobs that are in the Hagilur area and we make sure we don't die in a fire to a random blobs jumping in on us.
The 2 pictures i posted in my earlier post shows what is happening in Hagilur from time to time. And that is enough for us to have several Logistics with us all the time and to use Battleships.
And i just have to answer on this one:
Originally by: Shivalla We PIGS have been fighting Obsidian Front, Tempest Legion, IVY, Chupas, etc for past 4 years just well without having fleets of logistics and force multiplier ships.
Maybe because you are running away all the time ?
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Shivalla
Gallente Financial Removal THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2011.04.02 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 02/04/2011 16:17:36
Originally by: Shivalla I am not going to be explaining anything to you NightmareX, since you wont listen to whatever I say.
No one is listening to what you are saying, because you're mostly trolling and smacking. You're smacking and trolling was so bad that a forum dev had to remove you're spam and junk from the topic. Says all tbh.
We know what kind of blobs that are in the Hagilur area and we make sure we don't die in a fire to a random blobs jumping in on us.
The 2 pictures i posted in my earlier post shows what is happening in Hagilur from time to time. And that is enough for us to have several Logistics with us all the time and to use Battleships.
And i just have to answer on this one:
Originally by: Shivalla We PIGS have been fighting Obsidian Front, Tempest Legion, IVY, Chupas, etc for past 4 years just well without having fleets of logistics and force multiplier ships.
Maybe because you are running away all the time ?
And just taken from Hagilur local:
[16:03:31] Shivalla > heheheh, your video actually is awesome impact on again your alliance. First FEARdot, and now this :D
[16:08:24] Shivalla > Btw, some1 tell NightmareX that if the tries to delete the movie from evefiles, I will upload it to my own folder.
LOL, are you really trying to say that i will remove my movie just because a smacker / troller are butthurt over me?
This smacks and trolling shows exactly why everyone should just ignore Shivalla.
Much love mate, much love. You just said that you blocked me after your alliance mates told you to stfu...
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NightmareX
Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.02 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Shivalla Much love mate, much love. You just said that you blocked me after your alliance mates told you to stfu...
Are you new to EVE?
Have you ever heard about something called convo that we can use or the awesome EVE-Mail system to bring me information?
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Shivalla
Gallente Financial Removal THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2011.04.02 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: Shivalla Much love mate, much love. You just said that you blocked me after your alliance mates told you to stfu...
Are you new to EVE?
Have you ever heard about something called convo that we can use or the awesome EVE-Mail system to bring me information?
I should ask you the same question :D Since I convoed you and you have not blocked me.
Epic.
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NightmareX
Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.02 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Shivalla
Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: Shivalla Much love mate, much love. You just said that you blocked me after your alliance mates told you to stfu...
Are you new to EVE?
Have you ever heard about something called convo that we can use or the awesome EVE-Mail system to bring me information?
I should ask you the same question :D Since I convoed you and you have not blocked me.
Epic.
You didn't convo me. But as far as i can see, you are on my block list. So not sure on what you are doing.
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stockin
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Posted - 2011.04.02 16:49:00 -
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<3 shivall im going to miss are little chats :(
nightmare you missed all the good fights should have used some off moggys fraps
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NightmareX
Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.02 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: stockin <3 shivall im going to miss are little chats :(
nightmare you missed all the good fights should have used some off moggys fraps
Yeah, i have missed alot of the "good" fights. Those fights have usually happened when i have been doing other stuffs in RL or when i have been on work.
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Shivalla
Gallente Financial Removal THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2011.04.02 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: stockin <3 shivall im going to miss are little chats :(
nightmare you missed all the good fights should have used some off moggys fraps
CU Stockin, hope ya get your wallet full of isk where ever you are going with Alcohlics Anonymous. May the road to eve skill be paved with good intentions and bountyful loot.
Oh, that was poetic. Btw, I still think you and your new corp suck :D
PS: But I love you still.
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joxissogay
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Posted - 2011.04.02 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Shivalla
Originally by: stockin <3 shivall im going to miss are little chats :(
nightmare you missed all the good fights should have used some off moggys fraps
CU Stockin, hope ya get your wallet full of isk where ever you are going with Alcohlics Anonymous. May the road to eve skill be paved with good intentions and bountyful loot.
Oh, that was poetic. Btw, I still think you and your new corp suck :D
PS: But I love you still.
why the hate we go back together :( since skulls moved in and yes very poetic ;)
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Lady Shaniqua
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.04.02 19:21:00 -
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The intro was great. The editing was good. The content was boring, poorly piloted, risk aversion.
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