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Rasz Lin
Caldari Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.03.31 20:32:00 -
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(hisec) Ever since I started playing I believed that me repping someone gave the attacker rights to shoot me. I would not be able to shoot anyone until I got shot first. It worked like that every time I used shield transfers.
Few days ago I was playing with a couple of russians. Separating them, waiting out corp aggro and trying to do 1 on 1 (with full knowledge one of them would rep the other one). So I was shooting the only guy that was red, he was the only one that could shoot me (only his name in upper left corner). His friend undocked, started repping, stopped repping, docked. After 30 seconds something weird happened. He undocked in a drake, I automatically checked aggro timers and I was still safe, only one name. That is until he started shooting me lol. Magically another Aggro timer appeared out of nowhere and somehow now both of their names were in my upper left corner.
At the time I thought it had to be a glitch.
Today I had the pleasure to witness same two russians playing with some random player. One of them took the can and was fighting Vengeance in a destroyer while the other one repped. I swapped to exequror, undocked and started repping poor Vengeance. Nothing turned red for me, neither destroyer nor the osprey (normal). As soon as I started repping I got flagged fair game to the destroyer that took the can and was shooting at veng (perfectly normal again). After 5 seconds Osprey of the other russian locked me and put Hobgobs on me !?!?! Bam another timer appeared and he went red.
TLDR version: -Russian takes a can. -Owner starts fighting with the russian. -Another russian reps russian, I rep owner. -Somehow repping russian is able to acquire aggro on me and is able to shoot freely.
Question - where did the russian pull that aggro from?
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Veliria
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Posted - 2011.03.31 20:35:00 -
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Taking from a can flags you for the entire corp iirc, but other than that repping shouldn't give aggro for the repper, only towards the repper.
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Rasz Lin
Caldari Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.03.31 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Veliria Taking from a can flags you for the entire corp iirc, but other than that repping shouldn't give aggro for the repper, only towards the repper.
Russian took the can, not the other way around. Russian was flagged for the whole corp of the Vengeance owner.
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King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.03.31 23:21:00 -
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I've noticed some funky stuff with aggro mechanics lately. The other day I was trying to get my alt flagged to me so I could test a ship. The alt is in a separate corp and wasn't in fleet but no matter how many cans I flipped and other aggressive actions, I just couldn't get aggro. Ultimately I ended up just GCCing on my own character because it wasn't working (it was low sec). In other cases I've gotten flagged when I shouldn't have, similar to your problem. I've noticed aggro timers resetting for everything when only 1 should be reset too. Things like npc aggro renewing individual pilot aggro on me or shooting a belt rat renewing GCC. Someone at CCP crossed some programming wires I think. Thus far you shall read, but no further; for this is my sig. |
Admiral Rufus
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Posted - 2011.04.01 15:44:00 -
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Yeah, thats how agro works.... As soon as you start to help an agressed player in anyway then you are fair game to those originally agressed (in this case the russians) as it was a theft you will only be able to get agressed by the person who flipped the can, unless of course the player who was originally flipped agresses anyone helping the original russian through remote rep, tracking enhancers, etc.
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Unholy Converter
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Posted - 2011.04.03 09:58:00 -
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Edited by: Unholy Converter on 03/04/2011 09:59:23
Quote: I've noticed some funky stuff with aggro mechanics lately. The other day I was trying to get my alt flagged to me so I could test a ship. The alt is in a separate corp and wasn't in fleet but no matter how many cans I flipped and other aggressive actions, I just couldn't get aggro.
Same here! I was trying to get agro on my freighter alt so I could do a bit of slingshotting and no agro would take! It did work when I flipped her can though. Very stange.
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Jabru
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.04.03 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Unholy Converter Edited by: Unholy Converter on 03/04/2011 09:59:23
Quote: I've noticed some funky stuff with aggro mechanics lately. The other day I was trying to get my alt flagged to me so I could test a ship. The alt is in a separate corp and wasn't in fleet but no matter how many cans I flipped and other aggressive actions, I just couldn't get aggro.
Same here! I was trying to get agro on my freighter alt so I could do a bit of slingshotting and no agro would take! It did work when I flipped her can though. Very stange.
where your alts +10 standing to each other? i know no this stops the aggro timer from starting
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Rubix Khamsi
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Posted - 2011.04.05 07:29:00 -
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This is confirmed by me. Happened twice so far.
First time: I do a 1v1 against a command ship. Command ship is at 50% structure and gets repps from a random guy and I kill the command ship anyway. I scoop loot and dock. I undock again and a typhoon starts shooting me!!! (same phoon that repped the command ship). I never took a can from anyone or repped against him. Phoon was neutral from command ship. Diff Corp
Second time A double whammy. Two bugs: a drake takes our can. Our whole Corp starts shooting the drake including me and he docks and undocks multiple times over like 30 mins period. I get bored and stop shooting. I lose my timer for the drake and I get into a repping ship and rep my corpy who has agro to the drake still. Drake docks and undocks and magically he's red to me again. I dock and change ships again. This time we alpha him and he blows up. I got timer AGAIN on him without him shooting after I repped.
Also to add to second story: if you are on the killmail but you lost agro you magically get a gcc and concorded in highest. I have a drake killmail with 200,000 damage taken API verified. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=12942069
The abaddon stopped agro and lost timer. He was undocked when drake popped. He also received a sec status hit and concorded.
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Sombike
Caldari Enterprise Estonia Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.04.05 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: Rasz Lin (hisec) Ever since I started playing I believed that me repping someone gave the attacker rights to shoot me. I would not be able to shoot anyone until I got shot first. It worked like that every time I used shield transfers.
Few days ago I was playing with a couple of russians. Separating them, waiting out corp aggro and trying to do 1 on 1 (with full knowledge one of them would rep the other one). So I was shooting the only guy that was red, he was the only one that could shoot me (only his name in upper left corner). His friend undocked, started repping, stopped repping, docked. After 30 seconds something weird happened. He undocked in a drake, I automatically checked aggro timers and I was still safe, only one name. That is until he started shooting me lol. Magically another Aggro timer appeared out of nowhere and somehow now both of their names were in my upper left corner.
At the time I thought it had to be a glitch.
Today I had the pleasure to witness same two russians playing with some random player. One of them took the can and was fighting Vengeance in a destroyer while the other one repped. I swapped to exequror, undocked and started repping poor Vengeance. Nothing turned red for me, neither destroyer nor the osprey (normal). As soon as I started repping I got flagged fair game to the destroyer that took the can and was shooting at veng (perfectly normal again). After 5 seconds Osprey of the other russian locked me and put Hobgobs on me !?!?! Bam another timer appeared and he went red.
TLDR version: -Russian takes a can. -Owner starts fighting with the russian. -Another russian reps russian, I rep owner. -Somehow repping russian is able to acquire aggro on me and is able to shoot freely.
Question - where did the russian pull that aggro from?
Maybe the repping Russian got shot by the vengeance as well, so when u repped the vengeance he got rights to shoot you ...
High sec games are so full of fun and ****
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Rasz Lin
Caldari Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.04.05 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: Sombike
Maybe the repping Russian got shot by the vengeance as well, so when u repped the vengeance he got rights to shoot you ...
He deagressed as soon as reps started, + repping ship was 40km away, kinda out of vengeances reach
Originally by: Rubix Khamsi This is confirmed by me. Happened twice so far.
yay exactly as my experiences, Thank you for confirming im not crazy :)
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