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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2011.04.03 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Valeris Strontium at least I thought was a very low yield ice product,only mines in tiny amounts?
You get 1 unit of strontium for each block of ice that is found in highsec. The ice in 0.0, and possibly lowsec, has higher yields
Glare Crust - 25 Dark Glitter - 50 Gelidus - 75 Krystallos - 100
Also Glare Crust provides 1000 heavy water per unit of ice.
Dark Glitter provides 1000 Liquid Ozone and 500 Heavy Water per unit of ice. It is also the highest ISK per m3 for ice as well due to the price of Liquid Ozone.
Strontium isn't needed as much as it was before Dominion. Now that 0.0 alliances don't need thousands of POSes to claim sov they just need to maintain POSes on the high value moons and supercap production POSes.
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Admiral Valeris
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Posted - 2011.04.03 02:36:00 -
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Oh great thx for that breaker. Well im on the stront train anyways. Im gamblin on it as it is also used in capitals and some manufacturing also, and is a b%$*% to mine hehe. here goes nothin!
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Wu Strange
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Posted - 2011.04.03 02:49:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: Admiral Valeris Strontium at least I thought was a very low yield ice product,only mines in tiny amounts?
You get 1 unit of strontium for each block of ice that is found in highsec. The ice in 0.0, and possibly lowsec, has higher yields
Glare Crust - 25 Dark Glitter - 50 Gelidus - 75 Krystallos - 100
Also Glare Crust provides 1000 heavy water per unit of ice.
Dark Glitter provides 1000 Liquid Ozone and 500 Heavy Water per unit of ice. It is also the highest ISK per m3 for ice as well due to the price of Liquid Ozone.
Strontium isn't needed as much as it was before Dominion. Now that 0.0 alliances don't need thousands of POSes to claim sov they just need to maintain POSes on the high value moons and supercap production POSes.
You forgot Jumpbridge and cynojammer poses (usually deathstared on a valueless moon). The jumpbridges burn a heck of a lot of LO when things get active and entire 200man fleets jump thru.
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Fiat Money
The Privy Council Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2011.04.03 13:56:00 -
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LO and HW are mostly mined in 0.0 as a side-product so demand in Jita for 0.0 alliances is negligible. Same for Stront. Topes instead are always needed and bought on a regular basis.
Thus I don't bet any ISK on ice products except topes.
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Gillaboo
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Posted - 2011.04.04 01:27:00 -
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Seeing lower volumes coming out on the Market data... here we go ! ! !
And fewer ships in the ice fields for a weekend... -------------------------------------------------------- This space For Rent. |
Gillaboo
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Posted - 2011.04.05 21:59:00 -
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Lookit those prices rise !
And a few less bots as each day passes... ohhhhhhhhhhh, yeaaaaaaaah.
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Admiral Valeris
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Posted - 2011.04.06 01:39:00 -
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LOL hurrah!
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Gillaboo
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Posted - 2011.04.11 11:32:00 -
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Anyone see an upper limit on ice/isotopes?
Prices still pushing up....
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Fiat Money
The Privy Council Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2011.04.11 18:34:00 -
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There's no real limit, it's just supply and demand.
I remember that more than 12 month ago prices were in the 600 isk/item range. So that's the range I would speculate to imo.
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Tasko Pal
Volatilis Legion Citex Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.11 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Gillaboo Anyone see an upper limit on ice/isotopes?
Prices still pushing up....
I think it's capped by missioning income. If you can make more shooting roids than red pluses in high sec, then there will be a big switchover.
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Gillaboo
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Posted - 2011.04.12 11:28:00 -
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I strongly agree, and there is alot of ISK sitting around out there -- literally sitting in Wallets -- according to the latest QEN.
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Llyandrian
Amarr Livestock Science Exchange
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Posted - 2011.04.15 08:17:00 -
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Isotopes are going to hit new highs this week-end.
Prices have been rising strongly all week, buy orders are going unfilled, market stocks are being depleted by continued sales and not replaced.
The week-end refuelling cycle is about to begin.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.04.15 08:38:00 -
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Originally by: Llyandrian
Isotopes are going to hit new highs this week-end.
Prices have been rising strongly all week, buy orders are going unfilled, market stocks are being depleted by continued sales and not replaced.
The week-end refuelling cycle is about to begin.
Beware of these feelings driven news and announcements, because they are where money is lost.
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Gillaboo
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Posted - 2011.04.15 11:47:00 -
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And of false prophets... Caveat Emptor.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2011.04.15 12:46:00 -
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Or will there be an imminent price crash as botting bans expire and botters dump their humungous isotope stocks at the inflated prices?! That's right, SELL NOW!! Then after the weekend buy the crashed stock as it's going sky high again!!!! Amidoingitrite?!!!
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Netheranthem
Eve Engineering Finance Eve Engineering
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Posted - 2011.04.15 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Llyandrian
Isotopes are going to hit new highs this week-end.
Prices have been rising strongly all week, buy orders are going unfilled, market stocks are being depleted by continued sales and not replaced.
The week-end refuelling cycle is about to begin.
And I really don't know who's stockpiling
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Llyandrian
Amarr Livestock Science Exchange
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Posted - 2011.04.16 17:27:00 -
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Despite much scepticism, many prices see over-night rise.
Expect more price rises as market stocks are not being replenished at rate they are being depleted.
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Sealiah
Minmatar Coffee Lovers Brewing Club OMEGA.
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Posted - 2011.04.19 07:56:00 -
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So you mean my billions of isk in nitrogen isotopes will be worth hauling to jtia now? Fun stuff.
Nah, I'll just use them for my own poses.
isotope price rise -> moon goo price rise -> simple reaction product price rise -> complex reaction product price rise -> t2 mod and ship price rise -> t2 won't stay the "basic fitting" for all ships and marauders won't be the basic mission running ship?
I think nothing will change in reality, it's just that some people will spend a bit more on their fav stuff, move along.
As soon as the price reaches some reasonable level - more people will take their macks out and mine ice. Espetially that you can almost literally do it everywhere and all day long, as long as you'r awake you can just alt-tab every now and then and put the ice from your miner to an orca... Will look like botting, but in reality it'll just be people who want to have an almost passive income in space :P
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Llyandrian
Amarr Livestock Science Exchange
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Posted - 2011.04.19 09:06:00 -
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The w/e stock replenishing cycle is over. The first bans will be expiring. The bot-masters will start dumping any stocks into buy orders. The spread will increase and perhaps a small retractment.
This trend will be short term. Some bot-masters will continue and get longer bans, some will stop. Therefore the pressure on prices will still be present.
The rise in prices will attract player miners back into production, but not at the rate bots are removed therefore this will be a longer term trend.
The best market position remains buy and hold.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.04.19 10:57:00 -
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Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 19/04/2011 10:58:50
Originally by: Llyandrian
The best market position remains buy and hold.
The only people who should have bought and hold would have been:
- Warren Buffet
- Those who like him would have bought during the very long consolidation at 250.
Those who bought at 300 are selling part of their position right now and leaving runners for possible upward momentum.
The rest are terrible traders who should go back to mining.
Edit: You are making people buying near the top of an high, in case you didn't notice / are an ice producer.
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Gillaboo
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Posted - 2011.04.19 11:24:00 -
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Warren called... he said "buy, buy, buy!"
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.04.19 11:31:00 -
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Tilting at windmills, but the best outcome would be for prices to be held down to prevent returning boters from benefiting from higher prices on any stockpiles they still have.
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Claire Voyant
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Posted - 2011.04.19 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha The only people who should have bought and hold would have been:
- Warren Buffet
- Those who like him would have bought during the very long consolidation at 250.
Those who bought at 300 are selling part of their position right now and leaving runners for possible upward momentum.
The rest are terrible traders who should go back to mining.
Edit: You are making people buying near the top of an high, in case you didn't notice / are an ice producer.
Warren Buffet is an investor, not a speculator, so you wouldn't see him trading commodities.
BTW, Weren't you selling at 300?
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha I.e. some days ago I noticed this maximum on Isotopes: Linkage
The green line is a support, BRN 300 ISK pu. Price will fight to stay above it.
The cyan lines draw a triangle. As you might recall from few posts ago, triangles are particular and important patterns where price literally gets compressed (consolidation) like a coil till it explodes (break out), upwards or downwards.
The graph shows a break out to below the triangle tip. This is a bearish signal therefore I dumped about 1B worth of isotopes. Sell signal #1. Robotics are on the rise. Sell signal #2. Smaller related markets of Liquid Ozone and Heavy Water are going down and (as usual) with a larger motion than Isotopes. Sell signal #3.
So here are 3 sell signals and 2 of them come from comparing related markets.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.04.19 19:29:00 -
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Quote:
Warren Buffet is an investor, not a speculator, so you wouldn't see him trading commodities
They guy mentioned "buy and hold" (which you don't with commodities either), it's on the same tangent.
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BTW, Weren't you selling at 300?
Certainly, it's the benefit of those who bought early to be able to realize profit early and with no risk.
Despite the brutally primitive analysis tools provided by EvE:
- I anticipated a triangle and indeed it formed
- A triangle is not a good thing, in the best case your money is stuck, in the worst, price tanks and you are screwed. In this particular case, isotopes did not budge for 1 whole month, a month I invested my now free cash to fund multiple investments some of which even visible on MD.
- I still have about 1B left as a "runner", best trading is done with partial take profits.
Finally, trend / pivot lines trading both in EvE and RL is about knowing that you WILL do mistakes and you'll lose, but you'll lose as little as possible.
I read everywhere including SCC about people who get caught full of stock bought at price peaks and then they go the "I will wait it out". That's not a way to trade, the way to trade is to be nimble and get in and out and attempt to anticipate the market in order to lose with as little bruises as possible or to win with as much profit as possible.
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Claire Voyant
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Posted - 2011.04.19 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha They guy mentioned "buy and hold" (which you don't with commodities either), it's on the same tangent.
So the guy who bought 500m units on Dec 12 at the bottom of the market after Hulkageddon was announced (see your own graph) and made 100bn is an idiot and you are a genius but only nibble with 1bn isk trades.
If technical analysis only helps you see a few days into the future you should really stop wasting peoples time. Just because you don't understand how supply, demand, and inventories effect prices because you can't see them on your charts doesn't mean the rest of us are equally blind and ignorant.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.04.19 21:56:00 -
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Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 19/04/2011 21:57:08
Originally by: Claire Voyant
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha They guy mentioned "buy and hold" (which you don't with commodities either), it's on the same tangent.
So the guy who bought 500m units on Dec 12 at the bottom of the market after Hulkageddon was announced (see your own graph) and made 100bn is an idiot and you are a genius but only nibble with 1bn isk trades.
If technical analysis only helps you see a few days into the future you should really stop wasting peoples time. Just because you don't understand how supply, demand, and inventories effect prices because you can't see them on your charts doesn't mean the rest of us are equally blind and ignorant.
I don't know if it's even worth replying to a faceless alt going to personal insults but in a previous post I typed:
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
The only people who should have bought and hold would have been:
- Warren Buffet
- Those who like him would have bought during the very long consolidation at 250
which happens to be perfectly in line with the Dec 12 purchase.
So your point was?
Also, YOUR knowledge about demand and supply does not seem to be that superior, in fact you did not notice that such volume came because a pin bar formed down to 217 isk PU. A guy dumped an insane amount of stuff causing the price to tank and this enticed multiple other guys to generate 15% more orders in that day to buy it up.
Furthermore, despite that day generating 4 times as much volume as usual, it did not create the usual sharp spike upwards which would happen if a lone guy bought such a chunk. It took almost 2 further months of consolidation before a *gradual* price would develop.
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Llyandrian
Amarr Livestock Science Exchange
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Posted - 2011.04.19 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
predictions after the event.
I was right on friday and you was wrong.
I am right again and you are wrong again.
Time will prove it.
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Gillaboo
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Posted - 2011.04.20 11:16:00 -
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Ultimately, who cares what analysis technique you use.
If you made a profit, it's all win.
If you didn't make a profit... "Onoes".
Took my isotope/ice profit over the weekend, and already moving to the next market play. Y'all have fun now.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2011.04.20 18:13:00 -
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Minerals I mine are free, and so is time I spend chasing meager profit margins.
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Llyandrian
Amarr Livestock Science Exchange
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Posted - 2011.05.17 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Llyandrian
The best market position remains buy and hold.
I said buy and hold and time will tell.
Time has told. Prices of ice products is rising fast and lot chasing same limited stock. Too late to buy at best prices so hold, regional isotope prices breaking 600, hold for max profits as Jita do the same perhaps higher if pressure on bots keep up.
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