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Gloaf Alabel
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.30 15:28:00 -
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Ok im new obviously
for the past 4 days ive been doing the tut missions and wow this game is a bit daunting but honestly i love the complex nature see it all started back when i was in college about 2000-2001 anyway i was working at a gamestop and i made a buddy who i was working with at this point in my life i wasnt really a gamer more a womanizing party boy in Party school
anyway my friend introduced me to my first MMO and i was hooked it was called lineage II im sure some of you know the game it was intensly hard but i loved it till the dang bots took over then i left not to return to mmos for a bit
being a huge warcraft 1 and 2 lover (probably the only game i did play when younger) WOW came out about then and i jumped on the band wagon and for awhile everything was great the game seemed 10000000% easier than Lineage II but alas i wasnt happy the crowd it attracted didnt do it for me i was tired of playing a cartoon (no offence to any WOW player i understand the game completly its just not for me)
then i tried out a miriad of mmos including: SWOG, Planetside, Everquest 2, AOC, and Guild wars
i know all the MMO's i mentioned are great games but again they lacked the complexity i didnt know i was searching for until i stumbled upon EVE i had always heard of this game but for some reason my brain couldnt grasp the ok there are no levels per say in this game idea
i had always measured my value in that oh im now level 50 or 55 or whatever never did i realize there was more if i had just opened my eyes
but i digress being a 4 day newb and having a very basic understanding of the game and its mechanics (i say basic because there is oh so much more to learn)
I can finally say that i think i may have found my MMO i know you guys are hardcore and it will be awhile before im anybody and i know the game has a ridiculous learning curve but for some reason all of it appeals to me i had desperatly wished SWOG had done something similar to this
i do have a suggestion i think there should be a career called mentorship and newbs can become apprentices maybe the mentor can earn something for teaching a newb this would keep the LEARNING WALL as ive heard it referred to from being so challanging and since the game focuses so heavily on player run corps good opportunity to mold and shap the newb to something beneficiasl for the corp
companys do it in real life heck thats my job i recruit new college grads who dont have habits from other companys put them in our training program and voila 3 years we have exactly what we need |
Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1345
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Posted - 2012.08.30 15:32:00 -
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Welcome aboard and good luck.
Feel free to join my channel (read my bio) as a place to hang out and ask questions and advice :D
I'm a self-proclaimed living Evelopedia. The Drake is a Lie |
Gloaf Alabel
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.30 15:35:00 -
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cool thanks how exactly do i join a chat channel please dont flame me guys i know i can search but theres so much in my mind i just want someon to tell me lol |
Gloaf Alabel
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.30 15:38:00 -
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ok i figured it out will join tonight if i can play work comes first lol |
Robert De'Arneth
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.30 15:39:00 -
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Gloaf Alabel wrote:cool thanks how exactly do i join a chat channel please dont flame me guys i know i can search but theres so much in my mind i just want someon to tell me lol
Right click the little chat icon on windiw, it will open options for premade channels, in the little box type channel you want, click and new window opens.
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Gloaf Alabel
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.30 15:51:00 -
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thanks robert i figured it out |
Jim Era
Genco Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.08.30 16:01:00 -
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In EVE, we want as little automated systems. We have mentors. we have entire alliances dedicated to training people. We don't need any other perk than what we already have.
please don't suggest things before you actually see how the game works.
especially coming from your history. |
Robert De'Arneth
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.30 16:02:00 -
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One more thing, please feel free to ignore it!!
If you plan to stay and want to learn the ins and outs, put in an app for Eve University. I did not take the advise when offered and made a lot of bone headed moves. They have quite few great things for the new pilot!! |
Gloaf Alabel
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.30 16:08:00 -
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well sorry jim im a newb ive stated that a bunch sorry for an idea
thanks robert i will check it out
FYI i didnt realize there was a mentor thing already going on my bad for a suggestion
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Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1346
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Posted - 2012.08.30 16:19:00 -
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Well see the next thing that you'll have to come to terms with besides the "no levels" thing is that there are no official careers at all either. No tag that you can read on a person that tells you what they do.
Everything everyone does in this game that they consider to be part of their career is simply them going and doing it.
Everything you see and do revolves around the meta game and usually rationalization for doing things is "because I can". Everyone has their own goals and methods for reaching them and so should you.
At the same time there are also no limits on which goals you are able to have. There is no being left out of something because you are stuck to a class, every character ever created since EVE started in 2003 is equally as capable as everyone else including you. There are no race restrictions and no hard cut classes.
Really good example of that is a guy that mines in a battleship cause he just needs a bit of ore cause he doesn't wanna buy a barge or cause he simply cant fly one. And on the other hand the sneaky bugger that flies a mining barge fitted for PVP, using the connotation that mining barges are weak and defenseless to his advantage, using himself as bait. The Drake is a Lie |
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Jim Era
Genco Fatal Ascension
1744
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Posted - 2012.08.30 16:21:00 -
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Also don't apologize.
Nobody is your friend here, everyone will stab you in the back for a nickel. If you are ever getting a decent price or a deal its a scam. Trust nobody (including me)
If you seem weak, you will be taken advantage of.
Just gotta know when and where to give in.
:3 |
Gloaf Alabel
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.30 16:29:00 -
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thanks robert that makes sense and btw im not hung up on the level thing i just thought i was its the only way to judge in other mmos how well your doing i mean i know there are other ways but its the quickest way of getting gratification in this game i get gratification when i figure out how to mine or combat a ship
jim i think what you stated illistrates how difficult this game is when im a 4 day newb and advice given is dont trust anyone but then im given advice to join eve university
so basically if i listen to jim im supposed to write off what robert said if i listen to robert than jim sorry buddy
i think for a newb everyone should be helpful i dont think adding players to the game is going to make anyone experience less than because i think the difficulty curve will naturally knock out the idiots 95% of the time and as im discovering the player base will do the rest |
Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1346
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Posted - 2012.08.30 16:35:00 -
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Gloaf Alabel wrote: i think for a newb everyone should be helpful i dont think adding players to the game is going to make anyone experience less than because i think the difficulty curve will naturally knock out the idiots 95% of the time and as im discovering the player base will do the rest
Yeah pretty much.
A lot of people like helping the newbs cause they know how crazy EVE is how daunting it was when they started. Others will pretend to help people cause they know what they can get away with when they got a gullible newb around their finger.
For instance, there are a few cases of a guy that recruits a bunch of newbs into a corp and then beats the crap out of all of them cause members of a player corp are allowed to fire on each other without CONCORD intervening.
I for one, am one of the good guys, as the email from the dev in my bio page should have shown :D The Drake is a Lie |
Jim Era
Genco Fatal Ascension
1750
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Posted - 2012.08.30 16:40:00 -
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not a bad guy
join EVE uni, they are great...they were one of the mentoring programs we have in place.
RvB (red vs blue) is also a good place to start if you wanted to focus on PvP more.
This is an instance when you just have to trust someone. Like in rl, you know to not trust a salesman |
Robert De'Arneth
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.30 16:40:00 -
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Gloaf Alabel wrote:thanks robert that makes sense and btw im not hung up on the level thing i just thought i was its the only way to judge in other mmos how well your doing i mean i know there are other ways but its the quickest way of getting gratification in this game i get gratification when i figure out how to mine or combat a ship
jim i think what you stated illistrates how difficult this game is when im a 4 day newb and advice given is dont trust anyone but then im given advice to join eve university
so basically if i listen to jim im supposed to write off what robert said if i listen to robert than jim sorry buddy
i think for a newb everyone should be helpful i dont think adding players to the game is going to make anyone experience less than because i think the difficulty curve will naturally knock out the idiots 95% of the time and as im discovering the player base will do the rest
I think Jim means in game!! :) The forums are less stressful and for the most part you can trust the advice. In game is another thing, if it seems to easy, it is because you are being set up. Jim is just saying, make damn sure you know the people in game offering the easy ISK. ISK unless you get lucky and get some rich toon quitting and offering free isk, *it does happen* be weary.
There are a lot of people who would love to teach you how harsh the EVE universe is, and it is harsh.
Also, when you get killed by another player, grin and bear it, it shows you have class, and can roll withe punches. And yes, you will get killed and podded, harsh world!! |
Jim Era
Genco Fatal Ascension
1750
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Posted - 2012.08.30 16:43:00 -
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Come meet me and I'll protect you on your first venture into low.
j/k
but honestly the best way I learned from the game was to sit back and observe, that doesn't mean not being hands on...but just pay close attention. Everything you need to know is always right in front of you, just look for it. |
Gloaf Alabel
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.30 16:43:00 -
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thanks xer will keep that in mind i guess thats the nature of such an open game
i guess honestly now that i think about it maybe since its worked so long maybe jim is right thats what makes this game so great just as a player we need to be careful not to run people off unless they deserve it lol |
Gloaf Alabel
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.30 16:46:00 -
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hey guys i really appreciate the help and it kinda gives me some insight into this wonderful world |
Gloaf Alabel
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.30 16:48:00 -
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oh btw free isk meet me somewhere you can die i promise to be there lol J/K
look what i did there im already learning lol |
J'Poll
Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2012.08.30 16:52:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:Welcome aboard and good luck.
Feel free to join my channel (read my bio, in-game, the link doesn't seem to work in EVE Gate) as a place to hang out and ask questions and advice :D
I'm a self-proclaimed living Evelopedia.
Xer, your bio link does work on EVE gate. The only odd thing is that the brackets are the link and the text itself isn't linked.
Another great example of the weird minds that work in Iceland Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction |
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Robert De'Arneth
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.30 16:53:00 -
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There is a lot to learn, and so many ways to make ISK. Find a way you like and it will flow, the reason I suggested EVE University, is their mentor program, ship program etc etc. It will really boost your game play. And most people seem to love them, so you should be able to learn without a bunch of crap.
When they sand box, they really mean it!! |
Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1346
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Posted - 2012.08.30 17:32:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:Xercodo wrote:Welcome aboard and good luck.
Feel free to join my channel (read my bio, in-game, the link doesn't seem to work in EVE Gate) as a place to hang out and ask questions and advice :D
I'm a self-proclaimed living Evelopedia. Xer, your bio link does work on EVE gate. The only odd thing is that the brackets are the link and the text itself isn't linked. Another great example of the weird minds that work in Iceland
lol, silliness, thanks.
loledit: it seems to be only the one on the left too lol The Drake is a Lie |
Bommel McMurdoc
East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.08.31 01:52:00 -
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Jim Era pretty much has it all down, Don't trust anyone, however trust your instincts. There will not be very many people in EvE that will hand you a towel when you are bleeding in the nose, yer basically on your own. As it's been said....
but enjoy yourself the best you can and decide the path you wish to partake. if you want to be a pirate.... wormholes, low sec, null space are pretty good for that. However, Low sec has it's penalties, you'll get a standing loss for flat out attacking and killing folks.
If you plan to float around in high security space, .5 and above systems, tank your ships, use modules reasonably for defense in mid and low. There isn't any such thing as being indestructible, but a little bit goes a long way, you just may survive an unexpected encounter.
now i'm not saying you should trust me, but I'll be happy to answer any questions I can via ingame chat. =) I don't know everything, but I can pretty much point you in the right direction. |
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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
2698
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Posted - 2012.08.31 09:50:00 -
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You only truly level up when you stop leveling up ;).
Welcome to EVE!
It's good advice to be careful about who you trust but at some point you will always choose to trust someone as it's essential to progress and fun. The main thing is to learn to manage your risks and only take risks you're content with. Don't put all your belongings in the cargo of your ship at once if you have to transport them and because it saves you the extra trips, it might get blown up. If you start a corp, don't give your minions access to all the corp's funds and hangars, they don't need that level of access to make you rich. Don't ever spend all the money you have (unless you have very very little) on one fighting ship because you're always likely to lose whatever you're flying. Before you undock to go pick a fight, think about what you will do when you've lost the ship you're in. Write it off in your mind before the first shot is fired. If you make it back in one piece...it's a nice bonus.
Basically, don't put all your eggs in one basket. But remember that in a harsh world where your hand isn't held, trust becomes much more meaningful and the friends you make often become real friends too.
This forum is a great place to ask questions and these guys here are usually very quick with the helpful answers when you need them :) CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |-á@ccp_guard |
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Sin Pew
Dakini Rising The Kali Cartel
101
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Posted - 2012.08.31 12:19:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:You only truly level up when you stop leveling up ;). There's something mystical about that... Yoda?! is that you?!
CCP Guard wrote:But remember that in a harsh world where your hand isn't held, trust becomes much more meaningful and the friends you make often become real friends too. Just that. ^^ "haiku are easy, But sometimes they don't make sense, Refrigerator." |
Keno Skir
Vectis Covert Solutions
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Posted - 2012.08.31 14:00:00 -
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Bommel McMurdoc wrote:There will not be very many people in EvE that will hand you a towel when you are bleeding in the nose.
I actually find most people in EvE to be perfectly decent folk, and unless you are silly you shouldn't have too much trouble.
If you have any further thoughts on something i've posted, or want to ask an unrelated question feel free to contact me by EvE Mail or by private conversation if i'm online. BUDDY TRIALS AVAILABLE - 21days plus big ISK bonus and starting assistance |
Gloaf Alabel
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.31 15:31:00 -
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hey thanks guys for all the help i truly appreciate it not from a standpoint of oh gosh im now a better eve player but from a standpoint of ok i see the community is very active and yes ppl arent to be trusted but it seems you guys genuinely want new players as i never expected this much response maybe it struck a cord in the fact that many ppl have my same mkindset
ie tired of cartoony easy games that have no real (virtual) reward and the grind omg i cant speak enough of how the GRIND is so dang boring Lineage II was the worst the grind was unbearable i think it took a guy in korea 3 or 4 years to hit lvl cap in that game
i understand ever game is going to have a certain grind but this one its not about becoming level 60 and in a wierd way that is were the freedom lies its hard to pull yourself away from the omg i have to have a lvl what kinda game doesnt have lvls mindeset but as the CCP dev pointed out
"You only truly level up when you stop leveling up ;)." - CCP Guard
i look forward to battling with or ganking you guys
Thanks again and i will have some more wonderful posts i promise
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Jim Era
HARD KNOCKS CORP
1876
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Posted - 2012.08.31 15:38:00 -
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Also, pretty sure scamming is a bannable offense in newb help sections so you can take most of this information with a light heart.
The thing I like about EVE, is you don't feel too obligated to log in every second of your life because if you have a skill in queue, you are "leveling". |
Gloaf Alabel
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.31 15:39:00 -
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thanks jim that helps |
Robert De'Arneth
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.31 15:46:00 -
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So how goes the learning curve for you? Do you look at those real kewl ships in the market and think, man that would be kewl to fly!!! LOL. I know I did. I want to hear your first podded story for sure when it comes!! :) |
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