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ImGonnaTakeU2theGayBar
Gallente FinFleet Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.04.06 10:10:00 -
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Quoting CCP Greyscale:
At the time we decided to go with having upgrades have the same effect everywhere, to try and maximize the potential holding capacity of nullsec and give more people reason to live out there. Having given things time to settle down and find their new equilibrium, we're now revising our opinion on this decision.
While it's been successful in making more space more useful, it's also become a damper on conflict in nullsec. With everywhere being essentially the same in terms of the value of key resources, once you've got yourself established in one patch of space there's little incentive to move elsewhere, because there's nowhere "better" to go. This is resulting in fewer drivers for conflict, both in terms of wars of conquest and also in terms of intra-coalition power struggles.
It's also a concern that by making the traditionally less-valuable areas of space viable for long-term settlement, we're depriving new organizations of somewhere to start out.
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You do realize that you are basically ****ing people over with the investments theyve made in their nullsec space?
So do you suggest that sov space in "less favourable" space will be less costly sov wise as well?
With this turn around you might as well just reset back to the old school sov system imo. And for gods sake, make yer minds up...
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Brooks Puuntai
Minmatar Solar Nexus. -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.04.06 10:14:00 -
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Hey another thread about the same topic.
And yes since they p much reverted back to the old system they might as well bring back POS spamming and remove dominion all together.
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Dark Helment
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Posted - 2011.04.06 10:22:00 -
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if they did roll back to before dom would be the best thing they could and have done in years
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Tyburn Stannis
Caldari Xenon Salvage Inc.
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Posted - 2011.04.06 10:23:00 -
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Aw, is the little nullbear going to to have to do some work to keep reaping in the juicy iskies, instead of just putting a bucket under the tap. Diddums.
Wouldn't musical chairs be more boring if each round has enough chairs for everybody, and even some spare chairs in case you can't be bothered to move a few feet to next one?
Competition? Conflict? Greater risk/effort = greater reward? Bring it on :)
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Kitty Cantblock
Caldari Evil Monkey Asylum
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Posted - 2011.04.06 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: ImGonnaTakeU2theGayBar Quoting CCP Greyscale:
At the time we decided to go with having upgrades have the same effect everywhere, to try and maximize the potential holding capacity of nullsec and give more people reason to live out there. Having given things time to settle down and find their new equilibrium, we're now revising our opinion on this decision.
While it's been successful in making more space more useful, it's also become a damper on conflict in nullsec. With everywhere being essentially the same in terms of the value of key resources, once you've got yourself established in one patch of space there's little incentive to move elsewhere, because there's nowhere "better" to go. This is resulting in fewer drivers for conflict, both in terms of wars of conquest and also in terms of intra-coalition power struggles.
It's also a concern that by making the traditionally less-valuable areas of space viable for long-term settlement, we're depriving new organizations of somewhere to start out.
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You do realize that you are basically ****ing people over with the investments theyve made in their nullsec space?
So do you suggest that sov space in "less favourable" space will be less costly sov wise as well?
With this turn around you might as well just reset back to the old school sov system imo. And for gods sake, make yer minds up...
You can change your alliance but your still the same scumbags who where part of bob/kenzuku/IT - CCP has been your pet for two long and prior tol your corps and the rest of ex bob corps you don't rule this game CCP does.
These changes need to happen to revivie a stagnant game, just because you are simply scared of change and having to work at actually keeping your space, doesn't mean the rest of us are aswell.
STFU, accept change, or gtfo n go back to wow.
Piece said and done
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ImGonnaTakeU2theGayBar
Gallente FinFleet Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.04.06 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Brooks Puuntai Hey another thread about the same topic
Yeah just because I can and have the right too...
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ImGonnaTakeU2theGayBar
Gallente FinFleet Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.04.06 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kitty Cantblock
Originally by: ImGonnaTakeU2theGayBar Quoting CCP Greyscale:
At the time we decided to go with having upgrades have the same effect everywhere, to try and maximize the potential holding capacity of nullsec and give more people reason to live out there. Having given things time to settle down and find their new equilibrium, we're now revising our opinion on this decision.
While it's been successful in making more space more useful, it's also become a damper on conflict in nullsec. With everywhere being essentially the same in terms of the value of key resources, once you've got yourself established in one patch of space there's little incentive to move elsewhere, because there's nowhere "better" to go. This is resulting in fewer drivers for conflict, both in terms of wars of conquest and also in terms of intra-coalition power struggles.
It's also a concern that by making the traditionally less-valuable areas of space viable for long-term settlement, we're depriving new organizations of somewhere to start out.
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You do realize that you are basically ****ing people over with the investments theyve made in their nullsec space?
So do you suggest that sov space in "less favourable" space will be less costly sov wise as well?
With this turn around you might as well just reset back to the old school sov system imo. And for gods sake, make yer minds up...
You can change your alliance but your still the same scumbags who where part of bob/kenzuku/IT - CCP has been your pet for two long and prior tol your corps and the rest of ex bob corps you don't rule this game CCP does.
These changes need to happen to revivie a stagnant game, just because you are simply scared of change and having to work at actually keeping your space, doesn't mean the rest of us are aswell.
STFU, accept change, or gtfo n go back to wow.
Piece said and done
Sorry to dissapoint you but this has nothing to do with specific corps or alliances, other than you making it seem like it... Oh and I don't play wow either
CCP is not my pet, Im sorry but I think you must have been eating something inappropriate there son.
And personally I am more busy screwing other peoples space than being in my own. Whats your home system again?
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ImGonnaTakeU2theGayBar
Gallente FinFleet Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.04.06 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Tyburn Stannis Aw, is the little nullbear going to to have to do some work to keep reaping in the juicy iskies, instead of just putting a bucket under the tap. Diddums.
Wouldn't musical chairs be more boring if each round has enough chairs for everybody, and even some spare chairs in case you can't be bothered to move a few feet to next one?
Competition? Conflict? Greater risk/effort = greater reward? Bring it on :)
Nullbear, hahaha now thats the most funny thing I've read, I see myself more of a null-blowing other people up-bear
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Brooks Puuntai
Minmatar Solar Nexus. -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.04.06 10:41:00 -
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Originally by: Tyburn Stannis
Competition? Conflict? Greater risk/effort = greater reward? Bring it on :)
Hey a empire bear thinking he knows how 00 works.
Alliances don't wage wars over sanctums.
Coalitions won't break up over havens.
This adds no new element of risk/reward.
All this does is cause a majority of nullsec to be worthless and decrease the population of newer pilots into 0.0.
This also makes it harder for newer alliances to actually survive in nullsec since they wont have the sufficient income to sustain it.
While the system did needed some toning down this is CCP going over the top and nerfing something to the of becoming almost useless.
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Brooks Puuntai
Minmatar Solar Nexus. -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.04.06 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: ImGonnaTakeU2theGayBar
Originally by: Brooks Puuntai Hey another thread about the same topic
Yeah just because I can and have the right too...
Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
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ImGonnaTakeU2theGayBar
Gallente FinFleet Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.04.06 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
Originally by: ImGonnaTakeU2theGayBar
Originally by: Brooks Puuntai Hey another thread about the same topic
Yeah just because I can and have the right too...
Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
Right (squibbling notes)
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ImGonnaTakeU2theGayBar
Gallente FinFleet Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.04.06 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
Originally by: Tyburn Stannis
Competition? Conflict? Greater risk/effort = greater reward? Bring it on :)
Hey a empire bear thinking he knows how 00 works.
Alliances don't wage wars over sanctums.
Coalitions won't break up over havens.
This adds no new element of risk/reward.
All this does is cause a majority of nullsec to be worthless and decrease the population of newer pilots into 0.0.
This also makes it harder for newer alliances to actually survive in nullsec since they wont have the sufficient income to sustain it.
While the system did needed some toning down this is CCP going over the top and nerfing something to the of becoming almost useless.
What the guy said, nuff said
Could CCP think in terms of the words "balancing, boosting, etc" instead of the negative assessment of "nerfing" all the time? WTB Nerf ECCM
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PryMary
Minmatar Solar Nexus.
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Posted - 2011.04.06 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
Originally by: Tyburn Stannis
Competition? Conflict? Greater risk/effort = greater reward? Bring it on :)
Hey a empire bear thinking he knows how 00 works.
Alliances don't wage wars over sanctums.
Coalitions won't break up over havens.
This adds no new element of risk/reward.
All this does is cause a majority of nullsec to be worthless and decrease the population of newer pilots into 0.0.
This also makes it harder for newer alliances to actually survive in nullsec since they wont have the sufficient income to sustain it.
While the system did needed some toning down this is CCP going over the top and nerfing something to the of becoming almost useless.
Not too mention also those that have literally just done the "let's go to 0.0 and have our own space" then 3 weeks later to find out hmmm we are in a -0.2 system well now we can't afford to pay the SOV bills... Back to high sec it is sorry for putting all that ISK into a 10+ Billion ISK Sink. Regards,
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Neutrino Sunset
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2011.04.06 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Helment if they did roll back to before dom would be the best thing they could and have done in years
Qft.
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Aeronwen Carys
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Posted - 2011.04.06 12:03:00 -
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Where are all the posts from the smaller alliances that are going to get "screwed over" by this change to 0.0? Why are the majority of the prominent whines coming from the largest alliances only?
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Tappits
Rens 911 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2011.04.06 12:12:00 -
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I see a lot of mad people in here because for the past year they been able to perma make 40mill/h in a BS 60-80mill/h in a SC and 130+mill/h in a titan and now there supply of easy isk is getting removed.
i mean come on, HTFU.
P.S i hear some one if selling delve you should go buy it so you can continue making your magic isk. ---------------------------------------------- I fail At forums ٩๏̯͡๏)۶ |
Gillaboo
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Posted - 2011.04.06 12:19:00 -
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Doesn't matter what you do to Sov 0.0 space, most folks will never settle there. Between player-driven politics and more changes in game mechanics, most folks find the relative peace of Empire far more enjoyable than any opportunity in 0.0.
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Antihrist Pripravnik
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.04.06 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tyburn Stannis Competition? Conflict? Greater risk/effort = greater reward? Bring it on :)
Over Sanctums?
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Dodgy Past
Amarr Zor Industries Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.04.06 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: ImGonnaTakeU2theGayBar Nullbear, hahaha now thats the most funny thing I've read, I see myself more of a null-blowing other people up-bear
Yet when you're given a perfect excuse to go blow some other people up and make them cry by taking away their isk making machine your response is to come running to the forums to cry.
Nullbear because you want risk free PvP due to how easy it is to replace anything you lose.
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Liorah
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Posted - 2011.04.06 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Brooks Puuntai Hey a empire bear thinking he knows how 00 works.
Alliances don't wage wars over sanctums.
Coalitions won't break up over havens.
Empire bear here. Listening to all the nullbears whine is getting pretty old.
If alliances don't wage wars over sanctums, do they wage wars over moons? Ooh, yeah, they do! When is the moon goo nerf coming? That's the real money maker in Null.
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ImGonnaTakeU2theGayBar
Gallente FinFleet Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.04.06 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Liorah
Originally by: Brooks Puuntai Hey a empire bear thinking he knows how 00 works.
Alliances don't wage wars over sanctums.
Coalitions won't break up over havens.
Empire bear here. Listening to all the nullbears whine is getting pretty old.
If alliances don't wage wars over sanctums, do they wage wars over moons? Ooh, yeah, they do! When is the moon goo nerf coming? That's the real money maker in Null.
It would actually be fun to see CCP completely render 0.0 useless and no one would ever care to utilize in it, maybe then they would understand the virtue of 0.0 having it's +++++....
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ImGonnaTakeU2theGayBar
Gallente FinFleet Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.04.06 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Dodgy Past
Originally by: ImGonnaTakeU2theGayBar Nullbear, hahaha now thats the most funny thing I've read, I see myself more of a null-blowing other people up-bear
Yet when you're given a perfect excuse to go blow some other people up and make them cry by taking away their isk making machine your response is to come running to the forums to cry.
Nullbear because you want risk free PvP due to how easy it is to replace anything you lose.
Could you develop this, because I have no clue of WTH youre mumbling about...
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Onkadis
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Posted - 2011.04.06 18:13:00 -
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This has a certain air of cflux but it's way too short and kinda whinish. You've definitely been sharing from the same tube of lub though.
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Marco Bartoli
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Posted - 2011.04.06 18:24:00 -
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m8 that sux that your e-z income is gone maybe you should work a little harder for that isk?
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Vicky Vette
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Posted - 2011.04.06 18:32:00 -
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Conflict is not driven by geographic location or conditions, it is driven by class (ie Class conflict)
If everyone is poor, there is no fighting. If everyone is middle-class, there is no fighting.
Fighting comes from slums next to gleaming towers.
This pertains to 0.0 in that having different quality 0.0 areas drives conflict. The have-nots want what the haves have. Anyway it's good to have "crappy" areas where RP alliances can setup shop without having to compete with professional farmers like the Russian alliances.
My 2 isk
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