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nobody particular
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Posted - 2011.04.06 19:48:00 -
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Edited by: nobody particular on 06/04/2011 19:50:16 What idiot decided to move fittings to the server, hundreds of ships, millions of possibilities, and some idiot decides it'll be a great idea if you can only access 50 at a time. . . well done CCP, another stupid idea not thought thru.
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Drexit
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Posted - 2011.04.06 19:55:00 -
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The patch notes clearly state that any additional fittings beyond 50 will be stored locally, which is how it works now. Nothing lost, lots gained. Read closer.
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nobody particular
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Posted - 2011.04.10 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Drexit The patch notes clearly state that any additional fittings beyond 50 will be stored locally, which is how it works now. Nothing lost, lots gained. Read closer.
What have we gained exactly ? ? Fittings are now more difficult to find/use/access, as usual its bugged, with many players having no fittings at all cos they get stuck on the 'save fittings screen'
EVERYTHING LOST NOTHING GAINED AS USUAL
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Juneau Chokis
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Posted - 2011.04.10 12:02:00 -
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Good lord your punctuation makes my eyes bleed.
It also really supports your intelligent remark on the new feature.
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Tacyon
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.04.10 14:49:00 -
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Patch notes may in fact state "X" however experience shows otherwise.
Have you tried to have more than 50 fits with the current setup? I have and there are no previsions for "take this set now" or "ok, do you understand that these are client side and won't be saved server side?" The function simply states "you can only have 50 fittings" when you try to add that 51st fit.
Good intentions. Bad execution with no pre-deployment testing.
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Christ0ph3r
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Posted - 2011.04.10 15:11:00 -
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I agree that this was a terrible idea. Who plays Eve on more than one PC often enough that you need your fittings to be server-side anyway? Just a really horrible idea and it's worse than it was previously.
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Rensial
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Posted - 2011.04.10 20:51:00 -
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Agreed, terrible idea.
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Deuce Syundai
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Posted - 2011.04.11 01:55:00 -
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Come join in the rage about the 50 fitting clustercuss here.
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Songbird
Gallente T.I.E. Inc.
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Posted - 2011.04.11 15:14:00 -
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When I was testing that I was similarly perplexed - wtf is wrong with my fittings.
Solution: uncheck fittings until you reach the 50 mark. Let the server save these to it's database. After the initial save the game won't bother you again, and if you ever do it with another computer(you cheating basterd you) you'd have the 50 fittings you have saved.
Nothing's changed with your local fittings.
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Agrikaan
Amarr 2nd Praetorian Guard Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.18 16:26:00 -
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Oh no. How stupid. Now I can only access 50 ingame. I have 100. And the same fittings available on all characters/accounts.
Either save ALL fittings to Server, or keep ALL Local. Nothing in between. That should be obvious. Already Bookmarks are stored on Server, and folders for them Local - which is also rather stupid.
I had NO problems backing my 100 fittings up, and moving them between PC's if needed. And I still have to do the same for bookmarks and other stuff, so I STILL NEED TO DO THAT.
YOU SAVED ME NO EFFORT; YOU DECREASED NO TROUBLE; YOU SOLVED NO PROBLEM. In fact, you created a problem, increased trouble and made my efforts more demanding.
NO. NO. NO. FAIL.
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Kelio Rift
Caldari FREE GATES HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2011.04.19 02:26:00 -
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Why do you need 50 or more Fittings anyway? You are flying 50 different ships that you repackage every time you leave it? Or you have a ship that has more than 50 different fittings? Dammit, even if I have a feeling I need a ship refitted, I open up EFT and do the maths, save the fits and import them, in the meantime I let the ship spin somewhere safe. When it becomes obslete, I just throw it in the garbage. "In a living body, a dead, senseless soul floats, waiting for death, yet cannot laugh..." |
Agrikaan
Amarr 2nd Praetorian Guard
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Posted - 2011.04.21 03:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kelio Rift Why do you need 50 or more Fittings anyway? You are flying 50 different ships that you repackage every time you leave it? Or you have a ship that has more than 50 different fittings?
Yes, ofc there's several fittings per ship model, depending on what function you need it to do. And if not, there's more than 50 different ships in EVE. Some of us can fly more than frigates. Is that so hard to imagine?
EFT is not a solution. It's a workaround that is no better, or worse, that the current stupid 50 save limit. Fix it, let me at least choose if I want to keep using unlimited Local saves. EVE Servers saves some bandwidth, win/win.
Which is weird, considering the massive goals to reduce traffic and server load. Then CCP implements something in a stupid way, that solves little for most, creates a problem for others, yet increases the above.
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Agrikaan
Amarr 2nd Praetorian Guard
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Posted - 2011.04.21 03:43:00 -
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Originally by: Songbird When I was testing that I was similarly perplexed - wtf is wrong with my fittings.
Solution: uncheck fittings until you reach the 50 mark. Let the server save these to it's database. After the initial save the game won't bother you again, and if you ever do it with another computer(you cheating basterd you) you'd have the 50 fittings you have saved.
Nothing's changed with your local fittings.
Everything's changed. You can now only see and use those 50 ingame that you store on the server. The rest are unavailable to you. STORED locally in an exported file, what good is that to you?
Don't come talking about EFT. That is not a solution, if anyone thinks so, you've not understood the problem.
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Lost Greybeard
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Posted - 2011.04.21 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Agrikaan
Yes, ofc there's several fittings per ship model, depending on what function you need it to do. And if not, there's more than 50 different ships in EVE. Some of us can fly more than frigates. Is that so hard to imagine?
You've been playing long enough to have access to 50 ship types, but you can't fit frigates without a saved template?
Weird. I don't even need saved fittings to do most of my cruiser fits. ---
If you outlaw tautologies, only outlaws will have tautologies. ~Anonymous |
Guillame Herschel
Gallente NME1
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Posted - 2011.04.21 21:44:00 -
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It was Paul Simon's idea.
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Baraka Saibot
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Posted - 2011.04.21 22:06:00 -
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Conspired that someone with a macro and an abusive/destructive personality(Maybe even Parkinsons/OCD) would make a macro/click to save a 60 fitting/folder per minute to the Eve SQL cluster?
I believe I've heard something about one of the bottlenecks is the number(smallint) of connections that can be opened to SQL server.
This might not be one of the reasons this is why it's limited. But i'm sure theres a logical reason why.
Also, they make a new feature, and you guys call them idiots and just, crave, more. I think CCP shouldn't work in iterations anymore. Just a new expansion every 4 years for the price of a full game. That would make people happy apparently.
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Dorian Wylde
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Posted - 2011.04.21 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Agrikaan Oh no. How stupid. Now I can only access 50 ingame. I have 100. And the same fittings available on all characters/accounts.
Either save ALL fittings to Server, or keep ALL Local. Nothing in between. That should be obvious. Already Bookmarks are stored on Server, and folders for them Local - which is also rather stupid.
I had NO problems backing my 100 fittings up, and moving them between PC's if needed. And I still have to do the same for bookmarks and other stuff, so I STILL NEED TO DO THAT.
YOU SAVED ME NO EFFORT; YOU DECREASED NO TROUBLE; YOU SOLVED NO PROBLEM. In fact, you created a problem, increased trouble and made my efforts more demanding.
NO. NO. NO. FAIL.
Who else flashed to a scene in the mall of some kid screaming because his parents wouldn't buy him something. Amazing how pathetic some people are.
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Agrikaan
Amarr Defensores Fidei Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.22 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Lost Greybeard
Originally by: Agrikaan
Yes, ofc there's several fittings per ship model, depending on what function you need it to do. And if not, there's more than 50 different ships in EVE. Some of us can fly more than frigates. Is that so hard to imagine?
You've been playing long enough to have access to 50 ship types, but you can't fit frigates without a saved template?
Weird. I don't even need saved fittings to do most of my cruiser fits.
Good for you. It's not about need. EVE can be played using EXCEL sheets then. It's about WANT, and the failure of changing something that does very little good for some, nothing for most, and lots of bad for others. And add server load. So in short, not worth the code.
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Agrikaan
Amarr Defensores Fidei Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.22 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Baraka Saibot Edited by: Baraka Saibot on 21/04/2011 22:56:01 Considered that someone with a macro and an abusive/destructive personality(Maybe even Parkinsons/OCD) would make a macro/click to save a 60 fitting/folder per minute to the Eve SQL cluster?
I believe I've heard something about one of the bottlenecks is the number(smallint) of connections that can be opened to SQL server.
This might not be one of the reasons this is why it's limited. But i'm sure theres a logical reason why.
Also, they make a new feature, and you guys call them idiots and just, crave, more. I think CCP shouldn't work in iterations anymore. Just a new expansion every 4 years for the price of a full game. That would make people happy apparently.
of course there's a logical reason as to why there's a limit, that's not the issue. As the exact same logical fact can be used to argue against the entire change. Which is what it's about. The fact that by changing code, CCP have limited EVERYONE to 50 ships. Whether you have or want 1 or 483.
Letting me choose to use the old save method (local), that in no way hindered, impeded or affected anyone but me, would make me happy. Implementing something that DOES hinder, impede and affect me, AND server load does not make me happy. Because it's stupid on several levels. Even if some don't understand it.
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Agrikaan
Amarr Defensores Fidei Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.22 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Dorian Wylde
Originally by: Agrikaan Oh no. How stupid. Now I can only access 50 ingame. I have 100. And the same fittings available on all characters/accounts.
Either save ALL fittings to Server, or keep ALL Local. Nothing in between. That should be obvious. Already Bookmarks are stored on Server, and folders for them Local - which is also rather stupid.
I had NO problems backing my 100 fittings up, and moving them between PC's if needed. And I still have to do the same for bookmarks and other stuff, so I STILL NEED TO DO THAT.
YOU SAVED ME NO EFFORT; YOU DECREASED NO TROUBLE; YOU SOLVED NO PROBLEM. In fact, you created a problem, increased trouble and made my efforts more demanding.
NO. NO. NO. FAIL.
Who else flashed to a scene in the mall of some kid screaming because his parents wouldn't buy him something. Amazing how pathetic some people are.
Who else flashed to a scene where someone talks down on everyone not like himself, as he considers himself to be the paragon of humankind and everyone else compares to a lesser being.
I think even more pathetic are forum trolls, who gets off at insulting others and bringing absolutely nothing to the table, in favour or against in regard to issue or OP. That if something really shines off as intelligent.
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KA3AHOBA
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Posted - 2011.05.01 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Agrikaan
Good for you. It's not about need. EVE can be played using EXCEL sheets then. It's about WANT, and the failure of changing something that does very little good for some, nothing for most, and lots of bad for others. And add server load. So in short, not worth the code.
How much ships in EVE using in PVP ? One ship have 3 configuration - Shield, Armor and Nano So 50 saved shiptypes is not enoght. If this add much server load why you not give players operating they own fits directly from HDD ? So if players like to have 1000 fits - they have it? Why players need save fits to server ??? Its problem to update EVE game-client to using fits directly from players hdd?
How now - nog good, we need deleting-uploading fits ^( Dear CCP - plz do somthing, or give additional +50 or +100 ships for each player (or each players demand - if it needed) or do that in game-client - directly operated sotred-loaded fits from players-pc
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Trader Jjenna
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Posted - 2011.05.01 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Agrikaan Oh no. How stupid. Now I can only access 50 ingame. I have 100. And the same fittings available on all characters/accounts.
Either save ALL fittings to Server, or keep ALL Local. Nothing in between. That should be obvious. Already Bookmarks are stored on Server, and folders for them Local - which is also rather stupid.
I had NO problems backing my 100 fittings up, and moving them between PC's if needed. And I still have to do the same for bookmarks and other stuff, so I STILL NEED TO DO THAT.
YOU SAVED ME NO EFFORT; YOU DECREASED NO TROUBLE; YOU SOLVED NO PROBLEM. In fact, you created a problem, increased trouble and made my efforts more demanding.
NO. NO. NO. FAIL.
^^ This.
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Cosmoes
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.05.01 22:42:00 -
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Eve server is stored on floppy drives.
It's the only explanation for why we are limited to so few fittings.
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