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cyndrogen
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Posted - 2011.04.20 18:44:00 -
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Congo's conflict minerals leave a trail of destruction as they make their way from the mines in eastern Congo to the mobile phone in your pocket. How does the process work? What is the human cost? What can consumers do to help end the violence being fueled by Congo's illicit mineral trade? Enough's John Prendergast breaks it all down.
Visit www.raisehopeforcongo.org to find out how you can help end the world's deadliest war in the Congo.
Video directed and produced by Robert Padavick. Editing and animation by Jeff Trussell.
Copyright 2009 Center for American Progress.
Conflict Minerals 101
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Alotta Baggage
Amarr Imperial Manufactorum Armada Assail
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Posted - 2011.04.20 21:32:00 -
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I miss my childhood in Africa, learned how to distinguish the sound of an AK47 from an M16A1 when I was 4. Back when speaking out against the government caused people to go missing inexplicably.
And I wasn't even in the bad parts
Originally by: Valkoinen Heteromies
I for one would love to be able to walk on stations and fly spaceships in the body of a little cute catgirl!
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Jno Aubrey
Galactic Patrol
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Posted - 2011.04.20 21:41:00 -
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Until most (if not all) of Africa gets its act together and deals with its own issues words will continue to fail me in expressing just how little I care. __________________________________________________ Name a shrub after me; something prickly and hard to eradicate. |
Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
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Posted - 2011.04.20 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jno Aubrey Until most (if not all) of Africa gets its act together and deals with its own issues words will continue to fail me in expressing just how little I care.
Please list the issues that are soley those of the African nations that you speak of. Many of the issues I can think of, arrise from many outside influences and their interests in the regions, and how said outside influences have perpetuated systems where those people that should be setting their energies on fixing said problems are kept in perpetual states of conflict. Not that there is not accountability issues in the Afican nations themselves and between their varied ethnic populations, but to act like it is totally an issue with the continent and the peoples that inhabit it seems somewhat shortsided.
Slade
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cyndrogen
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Posted - 2011.04.21 01:42:00 -
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Originally by: Jno Aubrey Until most (if not all) of Africa gets its act together and deals with its own issues words will continue to fail me in expressing just how little I care.
Oh kid, don't speak the adults are talking, hush now.
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Florio
Versatech Co. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.04.21 06:59:00 -
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Whilst it is right to acknowledge the historical double-edged influence of the colonial powers in Africa, surely the time for blaming African problems on non-Africans is over?
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Alotta Baggage
Amarr Imperial Manufactorum Armada Assail
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Posted - 2011.04.21 07:14:00 -
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Originally by: Florio Whilst it is right to acknowledge the historical double-edged influence of the colonial powers in Africa, surely the time for blaming African problems on non-Africans is over?
My heritage is Dutch/British and I was born in South Africa... yeah, no one likes me
Originally by: Valkoinen Heteromies
I for one would love to be able to walk on stations and fly spaceships in the body of a little cute catgirl!
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Jno Aubrey
Galactic Patrol
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Posted - 2011.04.21 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: cyndrogen
Originally by: Jno Aubrey Until most (if not all) of Africa gets its act together and deals with its own issues words will continue to fail me in expressing just how little I care.
Oh kid, don't speak the adults are talking, hush now.
I expect I have lived a lot longer than you have. While I can admire your idealism, your common sense and appreciation of history leaves a lot to be desired. __________________________________________________ Name a shrub after me; something prickly and hard to eradicate. |
Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
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Posted - 2011.04.21 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Florio Whilst it is right to acknowledge the historical double-edged influence of the colonial powers in Africa, surely the time for blaming African problems on non-Africans is over?
One can not push a boulder over the edge of a cliff and then not be held accountable for the result of oneÆs actions can they?
As I said above, there is plenty of blame to go around, but total isolationism is not possible and there are benefits in continuing the assistance. Does this burden need to be handled by governments and the peoples said governments represent or should it be in the hands of organizations that are not tied up by the laws and regulations of individual nations? I believe that the answer is found in a combination of the two on numerous levels within the individual African and International communities.
Slade
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Citizen20100211442
Minmatar Carebear Evolution
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Posted - 2011.04.21 13:54:00 -
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I think this guy should talk, who actualy stands over those slave-master "armed gangs". But no surprise he didn't
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nahtoh
Caldari Brotherhood of The Saltire R-I-P
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Posted - 2011.04.21 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Trillgon
Originally by: Florio Whilst it is right to acknowledge the historical double-edged influence of the colonial powers in Africa, surely the time for blaming African problems on non-Africans is over?
One can not push a boulder over the edge of a cliff and then not be held accountable for the result of oneÆs actions can they?
As I said above, there is plenty of blame to go around, but total isolationism is not possible and there are benefits in continuing the assistance. Does this burden need to be handled by governments and the peoples said governments represent or should it be in the hands of organizations that are not tied up by the laws and regulations of individual nations? I believe that the answer is found in a combination of the two on numerous levels within the individual African and International communities.
Slade
Should we feel gulity over a rock somone your great granderfather met in pub for 5 mins pushed down a cliff? ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self |
Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
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Posted - 2011.04.21 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: nahtoh
Should we feel gulity over a rock somone your great granderfather met in pub for 5 mins pushed down a cliff?
I never said anything about feeling guilty. If one has reaped benefits of said exploitations then one is partially accountable. There are no feelings in my text, my comments are based in Common Law.
I do believe one can make an argument for having zero accountability. I just would like to hear it in a form other then, I did not directly have any control of any exploitation, therefore I have zero responsibility.
Slade
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baltec1
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Posted - 2011.04.21 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Trillgon
Originally by: Florio Whilst it is right to acknowledge the historical double-edged influence of the colonial powers in Africa, surely the time for blaming African problems on non-Africans is over?
One can not push a boulder over the edge of a cliff and then not be held accountable for the result of oneÆs actions can they?
As I said above, there is plenty of blame to go around, but total isolationism is not possible and there are benefits in continuing the assistance. Does this burden need to be handled by governments and the peoples said governments represent or should it be in the hands of organizations that are not tied up by the laws and regulations of individual nations? I believe that the answer is found in a combination of the two on numerous levels within the individual African and International communities.
Slade
So the empire should rise again from the ashes and once again bring order to chaos
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nahtoh
Caldari Brotherhood of The Saltire R-I-P
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Posted - 2011.04.21 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Trillgon
Originally by: nahtoh
Should we feel gulity over a rock somone your great granderfather met in pub for 5 mins pushed down a cliff?
I never said anything about feeling guilty. If one has reaped benefits of said exploitations then one is partially accountable. There are no feelings in my text, my comments are based in Common Law.
I do believe one can make an argument for having zero accountability. I just would like to hear it in a form other then, I did not directly have any control of any exploitation, therefore I have zero responsibility.
Slade
Well then your list would include anybody that may have benifited indirectly? Would that include desendants of the sinned against? Or those that stayed behind and may have made a profit?
Its wide net, sins of the fathers and all that. ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self |
Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
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Posted - 2011.04.21 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: nahtoh
Well then your list would include anybody that may have benifited indirectly? Would that include desendants of the sinned against? Or those that stayed behind and may have made a profit?
Its wide net, sins of the fathers and all that.
The funny thing is that most of the industrialized nations (and many others) of the world have benefited, in various forms and levels, from the continuous exponentiation of certain regions of Africa up to and including this second. I am not saying that the whole continent of Africa should be turned into a welfare state. I am just saying that a completely hands off, I am not accountable attitude, by everyone else outside of the boarders of Africa, may not be the best attitude to espouse.
Slade
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Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
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Posted - 2011.04.26 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Trillgon ... I am just saying that a completely hands off, I am not accountable attitude, by everyone else outside of the boarders of Africa, may not be the best attitude to espouse.
Part of the problem is that a "hands off" approach wouldn't mean "no interference whatsoever". Armsdealers would still continue selling guns and we would still depend on minerals. And if Khaddafi hadn't bought french jets, his army would've flown MIGs instead.
J.
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.04.27 06:54:00 -
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Originally by: Alotta Baggage My heritage is Dutch/British and I was born in South Africa... yeah, no one likes me
You do not think this is because of your face looking like a giant pimple that is about to explode? --
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.04.27 07:05:00 -
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Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 27/04/2011 07:06:08 Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 27/04/2011 07:05:18
Originally by: Jada Maroo Many legitimate news stories over the past few years would not have been brought to the forefront if not for Fox News.
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