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Mo Shizzler
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Posted - 2011.04.21 20:35:00 -
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There's these two groups of miners i've been keeping an eye on. They caught my eye because they mine 23/7. They mine ice, and they switch the systems they mine in on a daily basis. They always mine Glacial mass, there's no reason to switch systems like that unless they're trying to hide the fact that they are mining 23/7. There's no way to mine 23/7 without some kind of eula breakage going on.
Something else that i've noticed is each of the two groups has most of their created on the exact same day, 2010.09.18.
Each group consists of 7 mackinkaws, an orca and an indy hauler.
If I was into suicide ganking, i'd be using a locator agent on these two groups and ganking them on a daily basis. 7 macks in 1 spot mining 23/7 is just begging to be ganked. That's why I posted this here though, i won't post their character names, but their corp names are "South terror corp" and "baneblade JG corp".
Ultimately, if CCP won't touch 23/7 farmers, the least that can happen is we gank them. I esimate that 2 (3 to be sure to get their pods too) smartbomb battleships will cost each group around 1.2+ billion isk in losses each time they gank them.
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Mo Shizzler
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Posted - 2011.04.21 20:53:00 -
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Edited by: Mo Shizzler on 21/04/2011 20:53:47 http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/2055/group2x.jpg
Added a screenshot of the first group.
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ournameislegion
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Posted - 2011.04.21 20:58:00 -
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Have you been watching them 23/7 also? I guess there is some sort of eula violation in that to right?
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Mo Shizzler
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Posted - 2011.04.21 21:09:00 -
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Edited by: Mo Shizzler on 21/04/2011 21:11:21
Originally by: ournameislegion Have you been watching them 23/7 also? I guess there is some sort of eula violation in that to right?
Actually, I just check if they're still mining when I wake up, throughout the day and before I goto sleep. My sleep hours have varied by a few hours each night also and they never stop mining. Maybe they just happen to log off when I do and follow the same patterns in sleep variation as I each night. It could happen, I could also win the lottery jackpot 5 times in a row. I also woke up half way through the night a few times just to check and lo and behold, they were still mining.
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jimmyjam
Gallente Sinner Among Saints Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2011.04.21 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Mo Shizzler Edited by: Mo Shizzler on 21/04/2011 20:50:08 There's these two groups of miners i've been keeping an eye on. They caught my eye because they mine 23/7. They mine ice, and they switch the systems they mine in on a daily basis. They always mine Glacial mass, there's no reason to switch systems like that unless they're trying to hide the fact that they are mining 23/7. There's no way to mine 23/7 without some kind of eula breakage going on.
Something else that i've noticed is each of the two groups has most of their characters created on the exact same day, 2010.09.18.
Each group consists of 7 mackinkaws, an orca and an indy hauler.
If I was into suicide ganking, i'd be using a locator agent on these two groups and ganking them on a daily basis. 7 macks in 1 spot mining 23/7 is just begging to be ganked. That's why I posted this here though, i won't post their character names, but their corp names are "South terror corp" and "baneblade JG corp".
Ultimately, if CCP won't touch 23/7 farmers, the least that can happen is we gank them. I esimate that 2 (3 to be sure to get their pods too) smartbomb battleships will cost each group around 1.2+ billion isk in losses each time they gank them.
You want a medal?
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.04.21 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Mo Shizzler Edited by: Mo Shizzler on 21/04/2011 21:11:21
Originally by: ournameislegion Have you been watching them 23/7 also? I guess there is some sort of eula violation in that to right?
Actually, I just check if they're still mining when I wake up, throughout the day and before I goto sleep. My sleep hours have varied by a few hours each night also and they never stop mining. Maybe they just happen to log off when I do and follow the same patterns in sleep variation as I each night. It could happen, I could also win the lottery jackpot 5 times in a row. I also woke up half way through the night a few times just to check and lo and behold, they were still mining.
How do you know they don't take naps at precisely the same times you are sleeping?
How do you know they aren't watching YOU to see if YOU'RE the macro? - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
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Cornmuffin
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Posted - 2011.04.21 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Mo Shizzler Edited by: Mo Shizzler on 21/04/2011 21:11:21
Originally by: ournameislegion Have you been watching them 23/7 also? I guess there is some sort of eula violation in that to right?
Actually, I just check if they're still mining when I wake up, throughout the day and before I goto sleep. My sleep hours have varied by a few hours each night also and they never stop mining. Maybe they just happen to log off when I do and follow the same patterns in sleep variation as I each night. It could happen, I could also win the lottery jackpot 5 times in a row. I also woke up half way through the night a few times just to check and lo and behold, they were still mining.
To know for sure if they are bots you need to ask them why they are not helping the upside down tortoise in the desert.
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lordlulzs
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Posted - 2011.04.21 23:17:00 -
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it does not matter if they are macros or not.
they are mining. No other reason required.
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Dhaliparton
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Posted - 2011.04.21 23:59:00 -
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How do you know you arent a macro programmed to look for people macros? get a fleet. Gank them. Call me cuz this alt is ready to gank.
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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
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Posted - 2011.04.22 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Cornmuffin To know for sure if they are bots you need to ask them why they are not helping the upside down tortoise in the desert.
Tortoise? What's that? ------------------------ Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum "I've got a couple of Strippers on my ship... and they just love to dance!" ------------------------ |
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Mo Shizzler
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Posted - 2011.04.22 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: Dhaliparton How do you know you arent a macro programmed to look for people macros? get a fleet. Gank them. Call me cuz this alt is ready to gank.
A rogue macro, programmed to turn against his creators, sent back in time to stop the creation of macronet before it can trigger the macropocalypse. The macronator is back.
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Paul Clavet
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2011.04.22 04:07:00 -
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Originally by: jimmyjam
You want a medal?
Just as I read this, SI Radio started playing the End Theme from Star Wars. You know, from the scene where the princess gives Luke and Han medals. I was a little weirded out. ---- Blog: My Loot, Your Tears |
Milla Jovobitch
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Posted - 2011.04.22 04:09:00 -
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Originally by: Jint Hikaru
Originally by: Cornmuffin To know for sure if they are bots you need to ask them why they are not helping the upside down tortoise in the desert.
Tortoise? What's that?
Know what a turtle is?
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.04.22 09:04:00 -
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Are you saying people use macro's in eve? You had better let CCP know about this immediately.
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Logit Probit
QQ Continuum
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Posted - 2011.04.22 10:15:00 -
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Edited by: Logit Probit on 22/04/2011 10:19:03 vOvCORP and Dropbears With Frickin Salvagers just took care of this in Nakugard, with a little logistical assistance from QQ Continuum.
Their indy hauler continued to fly back and forth between the wrecks and the station for an hour. ---
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Chesty McJubblies
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.04.22 11:05:00 -
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lol, nice work ----------------------------------------
Looking for a good system, or area, to AFK Cloak. PM me with infos, or if you want a partner to be AFK with. |
Dark Voynix
Gallente Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2011.04.22 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Cornmuffin
Originally by: Mo Shizzler Edited by: Mo Shizzler on 21/04/2011 21:11:21
Originally by: ournameislegion Have you been watching them 23/7 also? I guess there is some sort of eula violation in that to right?
Actually, I just check if they're still mining when I wake up, throughout the day and before I goto sleep. My sleep hours have varied by a few hours each night also and they never stop mining. Maybe they just happen to log off when I do and follow the same patterns in sleep variation as I each night. It could happen, I could also win the lottery jackpot 5 times in a row. I also woke up half way through the night a few times just to check and lo and behold, they were still mining.
To know for sure if they are bots you need to ask them why they are not helping the upside down tortoise in the desert.
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The last man did this question still breaths normally if attached to the breath machine.
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Dark Voynix
Gallente Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2011.04.22 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Mo Shizzler I esimate that 2 (3 to be sure to get their pods too) smartbomb battleships will cost each group around 1.2+ billion isk in losses each time they gank them.
Ive seen several times video with a lone bs doing that and it does not cost 1.2b
Get a bs with 8 high slots ( = 8x large smartbombs), put some t1 cap booster with '800s on meds just to have enouch cap for several cicles and watch them die. If they are afk, they will not warp awayelse thet was'nt afk at all.
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Vincent Athena
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Posted - 2011.04.22 15:16:00 -
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Will one BS get sufficient cycles before concord shows up?
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Mo Shizzler
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Posted - 2011.04.22 17:34:00 -
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Edited by: Mo Shizzler on 22/04/2011 17:44:19 Their macks have a slight buffer tank, 1 BS will fail to kill any of them. 2 BS will do it.
Both groups of them just logged on, the suicided group is probably busy obtaining new macks after being wiped out this morning in Nakugard. Their other group logged in and are currently moving from the ice belt they mined in yestaday and no doubt are on their way to a different system to mine in.
I'll post the new locations of both groups once they begin mining in their new systems.
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FeralShadow
RipStar. United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.22 17:49:00 -
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Mmmm just so happens I have some shiny new Sec to lose. It's too bright, it blinds me _______________________________________________ "If you want to taste the ground, feel free to attack." - Kenshin Himura
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr Omni Industrial Coalition Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.04.22 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: FeralShadow Mmmm just so happens I have some shiny new Sec to lose. It's too bright, it blinds me
I can't help but wonder if, collectively, we could think of some way to help you do that...
Hmm...
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Mo Shizzler
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Posted - 2011.04.22 18:44:00 -
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Group 1 has setup mining in the Emolgranlan system ice field, a 0.5 system. 7 macks in 1 group waiting to be ganked.
Group 2 was last seen in Rens, buying new mackinkaws no doubt.
If anyone ganks them, please post here.
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Mo Shizzler
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Posted - 2011.04.22 19:44:00 -
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Group 2 is now in Eygfe ice field, mining in 7 new mackinkaws. Come on, let's take out both groups. They'll have lost 21 mackinkaws in a 24 hour period :D
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Mo0seluffer
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Posted - 2011.04.22 20:04:00 -
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Im confused.The title suggests that the macks have already been taken care of.But the question mark at the end is throwing me off.Upon readin said fred,I discover nothin has happened,An the macks have been mining this whole time.This is a great story.
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Durbin Watson
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Posted - 2011.04.22 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Mo0seluffer Im confused.The title suggests that the macks have already been taken care of.But the question mark at the end is throwing me off.Upon readin said fred,I discover nothin has happened,An the macks have been mining this whole time.This is a great story.
lrn2read
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Mo Shizzler
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Posted - 2011.04.22 20:35:00 -
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Edited by: Mo Shizzler on 22/04/2011 20:36:47
Originally by: Mo0seluffer Im confused.The title suggests that the macks have already been taken care of.But the question mark at the end is throwing me off.Upon readin said fred,I discover nothin has happened,An the macks have been mining this whole time.This is a great story.
Firstly, there is two groups of identical mackinkaws, 7 in each group, all operated by the same people, but in different systems.
So far 1 of the groups has been ganked once, costing them over a billion isk in losses, 1.5 bill+ if they use implants. When they were ganked their indy hauler continued to haul nothing from the belt to station for hours (broken macro evidence)
Both groups are now setup mining again, in Eygfe and Emolgranlan systems. We just need a few brave souls to wipe them out. 2 smartbomb battleship is all it takes to kill 7 of their mackinkaws. If both groups are wiped out today this group of players will have lost 21 mackinkaws + fittings + pods and possibly implants in a 24 hour period, we're talking 3-4 billion isk in losses.
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Daxine Myth
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Posted - 2011.04.22 21:26:00 -
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Good going wipe those macro's out
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Syekuda
Valor Inc. Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.04.22 23:04:00 -
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I support this thread. I love it --------------------------------------------------
Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome.
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Tsual
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.04.23 01:07:00 -
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Edited by: Tsual on 23/04/2011 01:06:51
Originally by: FeralShadow Mmmm just so happens I have some shiny new Sec to lose. It's too bright, it blinds me
For a change of boredome that might be a worthwhile enterprise. *rubs chin*
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Mo Shizzler
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Posted - 2011.04.23 10:19:00 -
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Well they've mined for about the last 19 hours straight, almost DT now. Nobody has ganked them in the last day. Such succulent targets too.
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Mo Shizzler
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Posted - 2011.04.23 12:37:00 -
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Downtime happend, after they mined 19 hours straight, downtime over, both groups logged in and are on the way to a different ice field system. Will post system names when I get them.
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Mo Shizzler
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Posted - 2011.04.23 13:16:00 -
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Group 2 set up mining in the Emolgranlan system ice field, 0.5 system, that's the same system/ice field group 1 used yestaday.
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Reonetii
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.04.23 14:15:00 -
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I hope someones paying attention that can action this.
I'd like to but my machine suffers the bsod every time I undock with the current release, was fine until last patch.
Go get em
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Xenuria
Gallente Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
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Posted - 2011.04.23 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Cornmuffin
Originally by: Mo Shizzler Edited by: Mo Shizzler on 21/04/2011 21:11:21
Originally by: ournameislegion Have you been watching them 23/7 also? I guess there is some sort of eula violation in that to right?
Actually, I just check if they're still mining when I wake up, throughout the day and before I goto sleep. My sleep hours have varied by a few hours each night also and they never stop mining. Maybe they just happen to log off when I do and follow the same patterns in sleep variation as I each night. It could happen, I could also win the lottery jackpot 5 times in a row. I also woke up half way through the night a few times just to check and lo and behold, they were still mining.
To know for sure if they are bots you need to ask them why they are not helping the upside down tortoise in the desert.
Nicely Done...
Vote Support For Great Justice |
Kanikal
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Posted - 2011.04.23 17:55:00 -
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Am i missing something they run their own players corps why doesnt anyone just wardec their corp and go hunting sure they might leave corp and join a npc corp but then gms can nail them for wardec avoiding, that orca looks like such a juicy target.
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Mo Shizzler
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Posted - 2011.04.23 19:04:00 -
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Leaving or closing a corp to avoid a war declare is not an exploit, and yes if you war declare them they will form a new corp.
Suicide gank is the only and best way to harm them, well, other than ban them.
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Lupus Lycaon
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Posted - 2011.04.23 19:25:00 -
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They dead yet? If not - mail me their location and name and i will gank them.
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Mo Shizzler
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Posted - 2011.04.23 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Lupus Lycaon They dead yet? If not - mail me their location and name and i will gank them.
Group 2 set up mining in the Emolgranlan system ice field, 0.5 system.
Group 1 is now set up mining in the Finanar (0.5) system ice field.
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Reonetii
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.04.23 23:01:00 -
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Pity they couldn't get the orca too in the first sb gank, with a delayed second gang warp in 30sec or so later after the orca is in initial damage.
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Mo Shizzler
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Posted - 2011.04.24 18:40:00 -
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Sunday april 24th
Group 2 is now in finanar 0.5 ice belt.
Group 1 is in Oppold 0.7 ice belt.
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Pistrik
Minmatar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.04.25 02:07:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRPKiCT1Q9I
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72inches
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Posted - 2011.04.26 01:36:00 -
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gay. i thought that was a fraps of the next gank.
hey if anyone wants to go ill join with a sb raven
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Mo Shizzler
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Posted - 2011.04.26 11:30:00 -
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I'm shocked that nobody is ganking these macros, 7 macks for 2 battleships is a very tasty suicide gank. Also according to the last person to gank these guys, their hauler continued to haul from station to belt for hours after the miners were dead and gone - macro evidence.
If someone killed their ships but left pods alive, you could fraps the pods sat in space for hours while the hauler hauls nothing, and send that to CCP.
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Khory Thunderstar
The Single Scam
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Posted - 2011.04.26 13:17:00 -
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If someone wanna duo a group, hit me up once im online.
Always up for suiciding into something. And mackinaws sound fun.
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Gavjack Bunk
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.04.26 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Mo Shizzler If someone killed their ships but left pods alive, you could fraps the pods sat in space for hours while the hauler hauls nothing, and send that to CCP.
Do CCP have to send you a fraps of them ignoring your evidence before you finally get it?
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Grumpymunky
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Posted - 2011.04.27 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: Mo Shizzler I'm shocked that nobody is ganking these macros
I'm shocked by your expectations of C&P. Also, no one ganks miners unless you offer prizes.
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Erichk Knaar
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.04.27 03:15:00 -
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Originally by: Pistrik http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRPKiCT1Q9I
Damn, I love that vid.
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Major Stallion
The Dark Horses
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Posted - 2011.04.27 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: Mo Shizzler Edited by: Mo Shizzler on 21/04/2011 20:50:08 There's these two groups of miners i've been keeping an eye on. They caught my eye because they mine 23/7. They mine ice, and they switch the systems they mine in on a daily basis. They always mine Glacial mass, there's no reason to switch systems like that unless they're trying to hide the fact that they are mining 23/7. There's no way to mine 23/7 without some kind of eula breakage going on.
Something else that i've noticed is each of the two groups has most of their characters created on the exact same day, 2010.09.18.
Each group consists of 7 mackinkaws, an orca and an indy hauler.
If I was into suicide ganking, i'd be using a locator agent on these two groups and ganking them on a daily basis. 7 macks in 1 spot mining 23/7 is just begging to be ganked. That's why I posted this here though, i won't post their character names, but their corp names are "South terror corp" and "baneblade JG corp".
Ultimately, if CCP won't touch 23/7 farmers, the least that can happen is we gank them. I esimate that 2 (3 to be sure to get their pods too) smartbomb battleships will cost each group around 1.2+ billion isk in losses each time they gank them.
sup bro...
9 Macks, 1 Retriever, 2 Pods
Engagement
checkin in...
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A Little Girl
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Posted - 2011.04.27 10:37:00 -
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The question you should be asking is why aren't you ganking them again? This turned from "hey look I ganked some macks" to running commentary where they are and why hasn't somebody else ganked them? Maybe nobody cares? Try that big thread in GD which has lots of feed up people in it?
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flakeys
The Great cornholio's
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Posted - 2011.04.27 14:56:00 -
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2 bs for 7? try 8 + pods with one bs :)
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DragonWraith
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.04.27 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: lordlulzs it does not matter if they are macros or not.
they are mining. No other reason required.
^this
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2011.04.27 15:56:00 -
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You should organize an operation to take them out!
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Mo Shizzler
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Posted - 2011.04.27 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: Mo Shizzler on 27/04/2011 23:24:38 They've actually been ganked a few times, especially the BaneBlade JG corp group. just check the stats for Tjuld on battleclinic KB, then check his killers stats. That group is currently mining in Nakugard ice field again.
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Antonio Banderus
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Posted - 2011.04.28 00:34:00 -
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I really applaud this. I don't like macros, they hurt the game. And besides this crusade against macro mackinaws is a lot of fun. Nuke 'em till they glow :) Smart bombing them beats mining all day, or blob camping some low sec gate, or doing your 5 millionth mission.
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Cephelange du'Krevviq
Caldari Seventh Exploration and Engagement Command
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Posted - 2011.04.28 06:33:00 -
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Originally by: Pistrik http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRPKiCT1Q9I
All the people saying they couldn't afford to replace their Retrievers = fail at observing the 1st rule of EVE.
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Suddenly Boom
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Posted - 2011.04.30 00:01:00 -
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Edited by: Suddenly Boom on 30/04/2011 00:03:31 We took out both groups of the macroers today, once before downtime, and once after, for a total of 20+ mackinkaw kills, uploaded the killmails to battleclinic. No pay required, their loot and salvage was more than adequate. Their macros seem to have gone wrong, as a result the orca and hauler in their group is just sat in the eygfe and oppold ice fields without any miners. I wonder if they'll even have noticed by tomorrow.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2011.04.30 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Suddenly Boom Edited by: Suddenly Boom on 30/04/2011 00:03:31 We took out both groups of the macroers today, once before downtime, and once after, for a total of 20+ mackinkaw kills, uploaded the killmails to battleclinic. No pay required, their loot and salvage was more than adequate. Their macros seem to have gone wrong, as a result the orca and hauler in their group is just sat in the eygfe and oppold ice fields without any miners. I wonder if they'll even have noticed by tomorrow.
If you were in my corp i would give you a medal
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Suddenly Boom
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Posted - 2011.04.30 07:14:00 -
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Wow, we killed these groups at about 9 and 10pm last night, it's gone 8am in the morning and their broken macros are still sat in the oppold and eygfe ice fields, with no miners, some 10 hours later.
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Suddenly Boom
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Posted - 2011.05.01 14:50:00 -
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After several ganks on this group of macks, they now logoff the second I enter local. Pretty funny to see all of their characters instantly logoff each time I enter, faster than any player could do it.
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Whiskey Jim McGavin
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Posted - 2011.05.02 04:43:00 -
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i smell fail!
people hate miners but i hate flying rookie ships more.
People can be online 23/7 without being macro miners.
I developed a software app when i was 17 and a multi-millionaire by the time i was 19.
Just cause your dumb as **** and have to mop halls for 12 hours a day to pay rent in your 1 bedroom shack don't mean that's the norm. |
Grumpymunky
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Posted - 2011.05.02 08:47:00 -
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Eighteen of my housholds accounts have been unfairly ganked for ten days for use of a macro Which is just not true. the eighteen accounts are shared between two adults and seven young girls of which one is just 13, So while they aren't play us adults are mostly into the night and wee hours of the morning. one of the adults is very ill with liver disease and cannot leave his bed so he plays eve around the clock training up our households characters. we are a family that plays around the clock most days we have six laptops 2x Win7 2xXP 1x macbook pro and 1 x ubuntu computer, there is nothing in the EULA that says you cant play around the clock is there? so why was I ganked for doing something I know for a fact was not happening, I would like to know when the macro was supposedly used and how Mo Shizzler came to the conclusion we broke the rules. the seven younger players must be supervised whislt playing eve because of predators this is why we do not have invitations turned on. Mo Shizzler is wrong and should hang it's head in shame. Because of this WRONGFUL ACCUSATION WE HAVE DECIDED WE WILL LOG OFF IF WE SEE ANY GANKERS IN LOCAL AND NOT TO PLAY EVE ANYMORE
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Mo Shizzler
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Posted - 2011.05.02 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Grumpymunky Eighteen of my housholds accounts have been unfairly ganked for ten days for use of a macro Which is just not true. the eighteen accounts are shared between two adults and seven young girls of which one is just 13, So while they aren't play us adults are mostly into the night and wee hours of the morning. one of the adults is very ill with liver disease and cannot leave his bed so he plays eve around the clock training up our households characters. we are a family that plays around the clock most days we have six laptops 2x Win7 2xXP 1x macbook pro and 1 x ubuntu computer, there is nothing in the EULA that says you cant play around the clock is there? so why was I ganked for doing something I know for a fact was not happening, I would like to know when the macro was supposedly used and how Mo Shizzler came to the conclusion we broke the rules. the seven younger players must be supervised whislt playing eve because of predators this is why we do not have invitations turned on. Mo Shizzler is wrong and should hang it's head in shame. Because of this WRONGFUL ACCUSATION WE HAVE DECIDED WE WILL LOG OFF IF WE SEE ANY GANKERS IN LOCAL AND NOT TO PLAY EVE ANYMORE
I know that this is almost certainly a troll, but i'll play along. If macros were not used, then explain to me why after all the mining barges are dead and gone, the impel hauler continues to haul with no ore from belt to station for up to 12 hours after, 12 hours of hauling non stop from belt to station with no ore, no person would be that dumb.
Account sharing too, tsk tsk.
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Lady Oxycontin
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Posted - 2011.05.02 10:12:00 -
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Allow me to translate for Funkymonkey:
You are bad egg Mo Shizzler, just because you born with no anus you seek to inflict suffering on others. My little sister cried for 2 nights about what you do. She get no egg for her rice now. We have no money because anusless people like you destroy our ships for fun. You tell people why they have no fuel for POS or capital ship! GAN LI NIA!!!
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Newt Rondanse
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Posted - 2011.05.02 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Whiskey Jim McGavin i smell fail!
people hate miners but i hate flying rookie ships more.
People can be online 23/7 without being macro miners.
I developed a software app when i was 17 and a multi-millionaire by the time i was 19.
Just cause your dumb as **** and have to mop halls for 12 hours a day to pay rent in your 1 bedroom shack don't mean that's the norm.
QFlols
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Suddenly Boom
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Posted - 2011.05.03 20:19:00 -
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These 18 miners bot now logs them off so fast when I enter local, that literally the split second I jump in, they instantly all logout. I added them all to buddy list and took multiple fraps of it. Not that fraps is worth anything. CCP obviously don't care about macro users otherwise these guys would be long gone.
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Privateeralliance Sucks
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Posted - 2011.05.03 20:24:00 -
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miners need to be shot down, its the only way u can pew these people... if geo-nicide with smartbombsis is the only method... then so be it... warp factor BOOM!
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Suddenly Boom
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Posted - 2011.05.03 20:33:00 -
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Edited by: Suddenly Boom on 03/05/2011 20:33:46
Originally by: Privateeralliance Sucks miners need to be shot down, its the only way u can pew these people... if geo-nicide with smartbombsis is the only method... then so be it... warp factor BOOM!
Smartbombing this specific group is no longer possible. Once a player has suicide ganked them once, this person adds the name of the ganker to his bot to automatically log of all of his miners if the gankers name is detected in local. The only good thing about this is it means you can make all of his miners stop mining just by entering the same system as them after ganking them. If you don't believe me, gank them and see what happens afterward every time you enter the same system as them. They log the instant you've loaded the system upon jumping in.
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Dhaliparton
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Posted - 2011.05.04 04:12:00 -
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Originally by: Milla Jovo*****
Originally by: Jint Hikaru
Originally by: Cornmuffin To know for sure if they are bots you need to ask them why they are not helping the upside down tortoise in the desert.
Tortoise? What's that?
Know what a turtle is?
What does this have to do with my mother?
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.05.04 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Suddenly Boom These 18 miners bot now logs them off so fast when I enter local, that literally the split second I jump in, they instantly all logout. I added them all to buddy list and took multiple fraps of it. Not that fraps is worth anything. CCP obviously don't care about macro users otherwise these guys would be long gone.
So... let me work this thought out... they log off, probably while mining, as soon as you log in, right? Which means, if I'm not mistaken, when they log back in they'll warp to their last location? If so, and you were waiting for them at that spot...
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Wabbit Czon
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Posted - 2011.05.04 16:29:00 -
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So.. I need to bring my scanning ship in there and find them so that we can nail them when they log back in. Be wary wary wquiet.. whuhuhuhuh.
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Suddenly Boom
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Posted - 2011.05.04 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ingvar Angst
Originally by: Suddenly Boom These 18 miners bot now logs them off so fast when I enter local, that literally the split second I jump in, they instantly all logout. I added them all to buddy list and took multiple fraps of it. Not that fraps is worth anything. CCP obviously don't care about macro users otherwise these guys would be long gone.
So... let me work this thought out... they log off, probably while mining, as soon as you log in, right? Which means, if I'm not mistaken, when they log back in they'll warp to their last location? If so, and you were waiting for them at that spot...
No, after they all logoff, which occurs the moment I or anyone who has suicide ganked them enters local, they don't log back for 10 hours later, because they're all bots, someone obviously isn't available to log them back in.
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Diggs Lonewalker
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Posted - 2011.05.04 18:46:00 -
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So as I understand the game mechanics, once the ship is engaged in combat, even if they logoffski, they are viable targets for X number of minutes correct? So I go grab a ship with a high number of target options, and target the whole fleet and put one round in to each ship, get CONCORDed, and then the rest of the fleet can come in and finish them off from one jump out, correct?
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.05.04 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Suddenly Boom
No, after they all logoff, which occurs the moment I or anyone who has suicide ganked them enters local, they don't log back for 10 hours later, because they're all bots, someone obviously isn't available to log them back in. They log off the second anyone who has ganked them enters local, even if that person is just in a capsule, they're gone the instant you appear in local, all 9 characters instantly log, on either of their groups. All you need to have done for this to occur is to have suicide ganked them.
Between myself and another suicide ganker, who lives in the opposite timezone to me, their bots have been logged out for the most part of every day. They log in, set up their bots, half an hour later one of us jumps into local with them and they're instantly all signed out again. We're on about the 4th day of this occuring now. There are other ways these guys could combat us suicide ganking them, but they'd rather just macro-logoff and end up mining nothing for that day.
I find the fact that you've completely shut them down to be hilarious. I hope you have a few minutes every day to visit this lonely little system.
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Suddenly Boom
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Posted - 2011.05.05 11:05:00 -
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Edited by: Suddenly Boom on 05/05/2011 11:09:14 So we found 2 more identical groups mining in gallente space, ganked one already. 7 mackinkaws, 1 orca, and 1 impel. All characters born on the same date from both corps. All characters ships are named the same for all 36 characters we've discovered so far.
Corp names: Turbo linda corp and obliques.
Let me sum this up for people to understand: They have 4x 9 man corps, the first 2 corps have characters all created on the same date, and all mine 23/7 in their corp setup of 7 mackinkaws, 1 orca and 1 impel. All ship names are identical.
The second two corps have characters all born on the same date, they all mine 23/7 and in their corp setup of 7 mackinkaws, 1 orca and 1 impel. All ship names are identical, same ship names for both groups.
Almost all of their names are infact chinese names or failed attempts to make an english sounding name.
HOW'S THAT FOR OWNED *****ES?
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Virtue Maulerant
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Posted - 2011.05.05 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Suddenly Boom Edited by: Suddenly Boom on 05/05/2011 11:27:57 So we found 2 more identical groups mining in gallente space, ganked one already. 7 mackinkaws, 1 orca, and 1 impel. All characters born on the same date from both corps. All characters ships are named the same for all 36 characters we've discovered so far.
Corp names: Turbo linda corp and obliques.
Let me sum this up for people to understand: They have 4x 9 man corps, the first 2 corps have characters all created on the same date, and all mine 23/7 in their corp setup of 7 mackinkaws, 1 orca and 1 impel. All ship names are identical. All fittings are identical, between all 4 corps too!
The second two corps have characters all born on the same date, they all mine 23/7 and in their corp setup of 7 mackinkaws, 1 orca and 1 impel. All ship names are identical, same ship names for both groups.
Almost all of their names are infact asian names or failed attempts to make an english sounding name. One of them is even called "Couldyoume". In total they have 28 mackinkaws, 4 orcas and 4 impels, mining 23/7, until recently, you can't mine 23/7 when you've been podded. That's a lot of isk btw!
HOW'S THAT FOR OWNED *****ES?
Keep it up man,great job.I wonder if we could war dec them too :).
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Hallelujahchorus
Dropbears With Frickin Salvagers
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Posted - 2011.05.05 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Diggs Lonewalker So as I understand the game mechanics, once the ship is engaged in combat, even if they logoffski, they are viable targets for X number of minutes correct? So I go grab a ship with a high number of target options, and target the whole fleet and put one round in to each ship, get CONCORDed, and then the rest of the fleet can come in and finish them off from one jump out, correct?
Correct except for one thing. Even though their ships would stay in space, they still do an emergency warp. You would need to gank 7 individual targets in 15 minutes. For the effort and resources that would take, it's far more convenient just to make them log for the rest of the day -- which in itself can be quite entertaining. Jumping in system and watching the wall of red names instantly fill up the corner of my screen.
And confirming what the other guy said, we've observed a few more identical groups to the ones originally posted. I want a freakin' medal.
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Suddenly Boom
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Posted - 2011.05.05 17:47:00 -
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All 4 identical corporations of miners now log off exactly the same moment as I jump into local, further proof that this is the same group, probably farmers.
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Heedless
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Posted - 2011.05.05 18:48:00 -
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Thank goodness cccp has taken such a strong stance to stop these professional bot operations.
/Sarcasm off
shameful indeed
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Malak Alraheem
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Posted - 2011.05.05 19:15:00 -
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Ok, so how many people do we need in local do you think to keep the macro from tripping the instant log-off function when the gankers show up? Figure would need to be based on a 1024x768 display most likely.
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Marduk Nibiru
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Posted - 2011.05.05 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Cornmuffin
To know for sure if they are bots you need to ask them why they are not helping the upside down tortoise in the desert.
Just don't ask them to talk about Mommy. The source of all legend |
Baljos Arnjak
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Posted - 2011.05.05 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: Malak Alraheem Ok, so how many people do we need in local do you think to keep the macro from tripping the instant log-off function when the gankers show up? Figure would need to be based on a 1024x768 display most likely.
This depends on how the bot is programed and what exactly it can do. I don't know as I've never programed anything like a bot before. But if the bot constantly scrolls up and down the local channel list and checks names, it wouldn't matter how many people were in local. More people would cause it to take longer, but not long enough for a ganker to warp to the belt and kill them unless we're talking about hundreds.
If the bot only checks names that are visible when the chat window is expanded all the way up to the top of the screen, I'd say maybe 30-40 people. And since local is in alphabetical order, the position of your name in that list would matter. So if your name starts with A, then you'd be on top and easily visible. If it starts with Z then you'd be on the bottom and possibly off the visible list.
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Azimota
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Posted - 2011.05.06 08:07:00 -
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Originally by: Hallelujahchorus For the effort and resources that would take, it's far more convenient just to make them log for the rest of the day -- which in itself can be quite entertaining. Jumping in system and watching the wall of red names instantly fill up the corner of my screen.
Does it by any chance look something like this? http://static.griefwatch.net/gallery/1a7ab3d9b19620f820e2b54a19751500.jpg
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.05.06 18:35:00 -
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These guys... they're not mining into cans are they, or are they mining directly into the orca?
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SaltyandSweet
Amarr Little Garden
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Posted - 2011.05.06 21:59:00 -
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bottom line it makes you a ****ing ***got loser who has nothing else to do but check and see how others play the game. lol loser.
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Cephelange du'Krevviq
Caldari Seventh Exploration and Engagement Command
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Posted - 2011.05.06 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: SaltyandSweet bottom line it makes you a ****ing ***got loser who has nothing else to do but check and see how others play the game. lol loser.
Except in this case, they aren't playing the game. A macro is playing it for them.
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Idami Raptor
Gallente E.A.D Alliance Omega Vector
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Posted - 2011.05.08 22:23:00 -
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I'd be willing to wager that if they're willing to log these off for most of the day to avoid the ganks, that these four corps aren't their only ones. It seems to suggest that they're still making enough money even with these four compromised that they don't care.
If they are, they're probably using the same, or similar, bots. one solution if you could somehow pull it off would be to get enough people on their logoff instantly list that they find it hard to operate at all. Particularly if you could get more or less permanent residents of the systems where they ice mine.
Hard to do, but their simple avoidance method is extremely exploitable.
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Aussie ALF
One Gear Inc
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Posted - 2011.05.09 06:51:00 -
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You have yourself another corp who will be happy to come suicide gank for some amusement, keep us posted on locations and we'll do our best ;)
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Cole Jiita
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Posted - 2011.05.09 17:09:00 -
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Been watching one of these groups in Miah/Arera(sp?) and this might be enough for me to break my carebear ways and suicide gank me some botters.
Two things though....is a smartbomb Typhoon/Dominix pair going to be enough or should I spring for the Megathron?
Also, what do you think would happen if somebody popped the Impel instead? Watch the pod go back and forth and the Orca would fill up and sit there the rest of the day? |
Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.05.09 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Cole Jiita Been watching one of these groups in Miah/Arera(sp?) and this might be enough for me to break my carebear ways and suicide gank me some botters.
Two things though....is a smartbomb Typhoon/Dominix pair going to be enough or should I spring for the Megathron?
Also, what do you think would happen if somebody popped the Impel instead? Watch the pod go back and forth and the Orca would fill up and sit there the rest of the day?
All that really matters is the number of highslots you can cram large smartbombs into. Phoons and Geddons are therefore the best.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
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