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Trader20
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Posted - 2011.04.27 20:59:00 -
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Edited by: Trader20 on 27/04/2011 21:02:21
Ok I need a ship/fitting that can beat a megapulse, buffer tanked, abaddon. (This dude on traq keeps pwning me). I have 70m sp and can fly any amarr/gal/mim ships perfectly but I can't seen to pwn this crazy baddon. I have fit em/therm hrdnrs/mods and tried every fit. I've easily beaten baddons before on sing but I don't know his fit and he won't tell me. I want something that can not only beat him but embarrase him so I can get my epeen bigger then his. I gotta embarase this guy and destroy his 1337 ego. I usually don't mind getting pwnd once in a while but beating this dudes baddon would be awsome.
Best non faction fitted, sub cap ship and tactic to take on this beast 1v1?
Edit: Oh and the smaller/cheaper the ship to pwn his baddon would add more to my epeen
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Stabby Stabberson
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Posted - 2011.04.27 21:06:00 -
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Neut/Nos domi, tanking only em and thermal pretty simple really, he can only do them 2 damage types, and if you feel like it throw some tracking disruptor's in yours mids and orbit him. Watch his guns miss, deal with what hes got for drones and watch him die slowly.
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Trader20
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Posted - 2011.04.27 21:08:00 -
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Edited by: Trader20 on 27/04/2011 21:09:06
Originally by: Stabby Stabberson Neut/Nos domi, tanking only em and thermal pretty simple really, he can only do them 2 damage types, and if you feel like it throw some tracking disruptor's in yours mids and orbit him. Watch his guns miss, deal with what hes got for drones and watch him die slowly.
I'm assuming a passive buffer tank on that nuet/nos domi?
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Mike712
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Posted - 2011.04.27 21:09:00 -
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Edited by: Mike712 on 27/04/2011 21:10:44 Neut torp phoon maybe.
[Typhoon, To kill a Mockingbaddon] Damage Control II Adaptive Nano Plating II Adaptive Nano Plating II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
100MN MicroWarpdrive II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Warp Disruptor II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Heavy Energy Neutralizer II Heavy Energy Neutralizer II Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Ancillary Current Router I
Berserker II x5
You're faster so you can kite and force him to use scorch or be in his falloff, his fit is cap intensive so you can exploit that by neuting the crap out of him.
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Stabby Stabberson
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Posted - 2011.04.27 21:11:00 -
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You can buffer as well, once's her out of cap it wont really matter, he'll will be rolling with a cap injector so don't expect him to be out of cap right away.
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Trader20
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Posted - 2011.04.27 21:13:00 -
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Edited by: Trader20 on 27/04/2011 21:14:32
thank you, good suggestions. So is the name of the game to stay alive long enough while nuet/nos him and wait for him to use all his cap boosters and use a buufer tank (large em/therm buffer) or is speed tanking a better option?
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Mike712
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Posted - 2011.04.27 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Trader20 thank you, good suggestions. So is the name of the game to stay alive long enough while nuet/nos him and wait for him to use all his cap boosters (large em/therm buffer) or is speed tanking a better option?
A plated baddon is slow as hell, if you can force him to use his MWD he'll use even more cap, he'll realize that so then you can just control range, torp phoon is a perfect option, domi is slow too.
Don't bother with NOS, they aren't very good, neuts and cap booster to run them.
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Headerman
Minmatar Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.04.27 21:19:00 -
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Can you fly a loki? If so, an armour tanked loki with an EM and a couple of therm hardeners will easily cut down on his dps.
Another alternative is to use 1 or 2 TDs... they work extremley well when used on an abaddon :)
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freshspree
Caldari The Executives
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Posted - 2011.04.27 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: Headerman Can you fly a loki? If so, an armour tanked loki with an EM and a couple of therm hardeners will easily cut down on his dps.
Another alternative is to use 1 or 2 TDs... they work extremley well when used on an abaddon :)
Then spend a cargohold full of ammo tearing through his/her armor.
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Jodie Amille
Gunship Diplomacy
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Posted - 2011.04.27 22:31:00 -
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Edited by: Jodie Amille on 27/04/2011 22:32:00 Suprised it hasn't been mentioned, but dual rep hype or an active tanked mael will kill one no problem(assuming you don't fight him on station or gate where he can degress.
If you're fighting in a place where he can't jump/dock then you could really embarrass him with an arbitrator or a dual td myrm(or upgrade to curse or pilgrim) --------
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Surreptitious
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.28 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: Trader20 Edited by: Trader20 on 27/04/2011 21:07:03
Ok I need a ship/fitting that can beat a megapulse, buffer tanked, abaddon. (This dude on traq keeps pwning me). I have 70m sp and can fly any amarr/gal/mim ships perfectly but I can't seen to pwn this crazy baddon. I have fit em/therm hrdnrs/mods and tried every fit. I've easily beaten baddons before on sing but I don't know his fit and he won't tell me. I want something that can not only beat him but embarrase him so I can get my epeen bigger then his. I gotta embarase this guy and destroy his 1337 ego. I usually don't mind getting pwnd once in a while but beating this dudes baddon would be awsome.
Best non faction fitted, sub cap ship and tactic to take on this beast 1v1 no warp out
Edit: Oh and the smaller/cheaper the ship to pwn his baddon would add more to my epeen
If you've got time to kill him and now how to fly one a Curse will make a complete joke of any Abaddon. Only risky part will be getting into orbit range. Id take that bet anyday.
Syrup
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Kinta Huron
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Posted - 2011.04.28 03:36:00 -
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Tempest Dual 650mm
Gyrostabilizer II Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Tracking Computer II Heavy Capacitor Booster II Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II Heavy Energy Neutralizer II Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
Large Anti-Explosive Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Warrior II Vespa EC-600
I tried this fit on the test server about 3 months back, I managed to get a solo with decent fit Baddon and killed it.
The EC-600's aren't there for looks either, use them!
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Straight Edged
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Posted - 2011.04.28 05:01:00 -
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Stop following vanilla fits. Since you have intel (you know the enemy), fit lots of EM and thermal hardeners. This will push your EHP.
[Typhoon, Anti-LASER] Damage Control II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Peripheral Weapon Navigation Diameter X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Initiated Harmonic Warp Scrambler I
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Juggernaut Torpedo 800mm Heavy Carbine Repeating Howitzer I, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Heavy Carbine Repeating Howitzer I, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Heavy Carbine Repeating Howitzer I, Republic Fleet EMP L
Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Ogre II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5
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Miregar Shakor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.04.28 15:49:00 -
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Embarrass, you say? Just fill cargo with ammo, get under his guns, deal with drones and go put on a kettle. If you make this work, you have achieved your goal.
[Rupture, O'RLY? YA'RLY!] Damage Control II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II
Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners Warp Scrambler II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I E5 Prototype Energy Vampire
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Warrior II x5 Warrior II x1
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Shapeshifting Shaman
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Posted - 2011.04.28 16:45:00 -
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You don't even need rigs for this.
[Arbitrator, AB TD Nos] Damage Control II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II
Tracking Disruptor II, Tracking Speed Disruption 10MN Afterburner II Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Small Diminishing Power System Drain I
Valkyrie II x5
Valks, because EX is probably his lowest resist. Get close with the AB on. That, plus Tracking Disruption = he never hits you. Take out his drones with your own first - Abaddon's drone bay isn't large - and he's a sitting duck. Neut him down to kill active hardeners. If he is neuting you, all the better, he's killing his own cap and you have 2 small nos cycling to keep your tackle and EWar running.
Sit back, relax, and enjoy his rage while he dies an agonizingly slow death.
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Whiteknight03
Theoretical Research
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Posted - 2011.04.28 17:35:00 -
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Step 1: Get a Stealthbomber Step 2: ??? Step 3: Profit
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Ravenesa
The Bastards The Bastards.
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Posted - 2011.04.28 17:37:00 -
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Pilgrim/Curse would work, but would take forever.
Dual armor repping Ishtar with NOS/Blasters up top and two flights of Heavy drones, plus some lights to kill his. Put an AB on there and orbit as close as you can and he wont touch you.
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Trader20
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Posted - 2011.04.28 20:10:00 -
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Edited by: Trader20 on 28/04/2011 20:15:35
Thanks for all the great suggestions. Like I said it's on the test server so it's an arranged fight usually starting at 20km.
Also I notice that he doesn't have any armor reppers so he's def buffer tanked. I was thinking of trying to out track him but that would take forever to eat away at his buffer. I'm going to try the nuet/siege phoon and try to keep him at 25km and I'll see how that works.
U think a pilgrim would work or not enough damage? (woops thanks raven, u answer my ?)
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Von Kroll
Caldari Kroll's Legion
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Posted - 2011.04.28 20:47:00 -
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Torp Scorp. 3 Amarr jammers. Maybe an ECM burst if you get unlucky and miss with all 3. Max DPS and Smarties in the highs to take care of his drones off the bat. He will hate you, but you'll win...eventually.
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Trader20
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Posted - 2011.04.28 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Von Kroll Torp Scorp. 3 Amarr jammers. Maybe an ECM burst if you get unlucky and miss with all 3. Max DPS and Smarties in the highs to take care of his drones off the bat. He will hate you, but you'll win...eventually.
Good suggestion. I know he'll rage over being jammed the whole fight and call it cheap tactics
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Theodoric Darkwind
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.04.29 20:07:00 -
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Ok decided to cook up a tempest for this, armor tanked to maximize EM/Therm resists, does 762 dps, 2 heavy neuts, and 190k EHP vs EM/Therm, does require a 1% PG implant. If you want to kite him a bit swap ammo out to barrage. MWD wont fit unless you dump the cap booster. The weird drone layout is to maximize dps with the 75mb bandwidth.
[Tempest, baddon killer] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Armor EM Hardener II Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Gyrostabilizer II
Warp Disruptor II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Tracking Computer II LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Stasis Webifier II
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion L Heavy Energy Neutralizer II Heavy Energy Neutralizer II
Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Berserker II x2 Valkyrie II x2 Warrior II x1
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Theodoric Darkwind
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.04.29 20:30:00 -
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here is a possibly even more fun fit, if you can fly a scorpion. Should be able to just get right on top of him, scram/web, and keep him permajammed while you kill him.
[Scorpion, baddon slayer] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Signal Distortion Amplifier II
ECM - White Noise Generator II ECM - White Noise Generator II ECM - White Noise Generator II ECM - White Noise Generator II Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Medium Energy Neutralizer II Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Berserker II x2 Valkyrie II x2 Warrior II x1
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Liang Nuren
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Posted - 2011.04.29 20:40:00 -
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If the goal is humiliation, I'd strongly consider the Sentinel, Crucifier, and Arbitrator. You could also go with a damp Celestis and plink at him beyond his lock range. -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
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Damnskippy
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Posted - 2011.04.30 04:39:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren If the goal is humiliation, I'd strongly consider the Sentinel, Crucifier, and Arbitrator. You could also go with a damp Celestis and plink at him beyond his lock range.
What Liang said.
Only Semi-trolling here... If you're fighting somewhere the baddon can't deaggro and jump, use a frig. Dram, Wolf, Ishkur, Jag, Comet, Daredevil, Cruor, Rifter...Whatever really. Once you pop the drones he's done for.
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Headerman
Minmatar Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.04.30 07:13:00 -
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[Maelstrom, New Setup 1] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II
Large Shield Booster II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Heat Dissipation Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Photon Scattering Field II Photon Scattering Field II
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Hail L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Hail L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Hail L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Hail L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Hail L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Hail L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Hail L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Hail L
Large Core Defence Operational Solidifier II Large Core Defence Operational Solidifier II Large Core Defence Operational Solidifier I
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baltec1
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Posted - 2011.04.30 07:43:00 -
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I think I killed one in some solo frigate before... Taranis I think.
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Sigras
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Posted - 2011.04.30 08:28:00 -
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um . . . use the counter to hellcat abaddons . . . the AHAC Zealot?
[Zealot, Armor AB HAC 12/12/10] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Adaptive Nano Plating II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II
10MN Afterburner II Fleeting Warp Disruptor I Phased Muon ECCM Caster I
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Medium Anti-Thermic Pump I Medium Algid Energy Administrations Unit I
swap the ECCM caster for a tracking disruptor and how could you possibly lose that fight? orbit at < 7 and you're golden.
Aside from that, a lachesis will do it . . . it will take for freaking ever but it will do it; scrambled out to 30 + damped down to 10 = win
That, and assuming you want to keep this fight sub capital, anything smaller than a battlecruiser should do it as long as the pilot is smart enough to orbit and not turn on a MWD
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Mia Kashuken
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Posted - 2011.04.30 11:12:00 -
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No-one said a Bhaalgorn?
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