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Cyggy
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Posted - 2011.05.01 17:12:00 -
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any good? please provide tweaks.
[Machariel, Machariel]
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L Small Tractor Beam I
Dread Guristas X-Large Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II 100MN Afterburner II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II
Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Projectile Ambit Extension I
Hammerhead II x5
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Muddy Undies
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.05.01 19:03:00 -
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Edited by: Muddy Undies on 01/05/2011 19:04:53 about the same as mine. I only have two faction/complex modules as I don't want it to be a gank magnet.
[Machariel, Mach 1] Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II
Invulnerability Field II Domination 100MN Afterburner Pith B-Type X-Large Shield Booster Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Invulnerability Field II
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L [empty high slot] 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Hammerhead II x5 Warrior II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5
requires a 3% cpu implant to fit, but I always need the KMB-50 implant for other ships. If you Use 2x T2 and 2x RepFleet gyros then you don't need the cpu implant. The B-Type XL shield booster provides a huge chunk of shield each cycle (and was extremely cheap compared to other deadspace boosters), though it tends to eat a lot more cap than the much more expensive Gist X-Type. Generally you kill stuff so fast that you never need to do more than pulse the booster, but once in a while you might get some heavy fire and it is great to be able to pump cap 800's in (no L4 has ever come close to breaking my tank in a mach with the X-type booster running).
Since it is an impressively expensive ship, might want to go with T2 resist rigs or cap solidifier rigs as they aren't nearly as expensive as T2 purger/extenders. Plus no one going to gank you over having T2 rigs since they never drop.
Mach is good as it can be fit a number of different ways. I've used a T2 boost amp along with just a C5-L XL booster and that works out very well, but the biggest thing I think is just having a set of LG Crystals (no omega). Frees up using a boost amp module for something else (cap booster is always safe on active tank ship).
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.01 19:19:00 -
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Shield-Tank how boring.
The Machariel can be armor/speed tanked and there are med-slot modules that are not only useful in PvP.
Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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Hedda Hopper
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Posted - 2011.05.01 20:41:00 -
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I don't think it is a question of excitement or not. L4's are meant to be done as fast as possible.
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Bean Giant
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Posted - 2011.05.01 21:33:00 -
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I recently changed from a deadspace AB to a deadspace MWD, I'd highly recommend it.
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Missy Sasha
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Posted - 2011.05.01 22:07:00 -
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Why would you fit tank mods in lows when you can fit gank mods. You can still fit a web and have adequate tank.
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Adacia Calla
Minmatar Firebird Squadron Terra-Incognita
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Posted - 2011.05.01 23:27:00 -
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This is my L4 boat when I'm horribly bored. Goes fast, turns on a dime, hits like a train.
Also, cap stability is for pansies.
[Machariel, Too much isk to care]
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L Core X-Type Nosferatu
Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Core X-Type 100MN Afterburner Dread Gurista Invulnerability Field Dread Gurista Invulnerability Field
Republic Fleet Nanofiber Structure Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Damage Control II
Large Polycarbon Engine Housing I Large Semiconductor Memory Cell II Large Semiconductor Memory Cell II
Warrior II x5 Hammerhead II x5
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Johnny Granite
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.02 00:17:00 -
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Edited by: Johnny Granite on 02/05/2011 00:18:21
Originally by: Adacia Calla This is my L4 boat when I'm horribly bored. Goes fast, turns on a dime, hits like a train.
Also, cap stability is for pansies.
[Machariel, Too much isk to care]
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L Core X-Type Nosferatu
Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Core X-Type 100MN Afterburner Dread Gurista Invulnerability Field Dread Gurista Invulnerability Field
Republic Fleet Nanofiber Structure Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Damage Control II
Large Polycarbon Engine Housing I Large Semiconductor Memory Cell II Large Semiconductor Memory Cell II
Warrior II x5 Hammerhead II x5
As someone who has flown a mach with a similar fit, I'd advise the following. Drop the sba for another hardener because it only makes you run your booster more. EM hardener would be nice if you run amarr missions and it reduces the gank value. The last advice would be to swap the nano for a tracking enhancer, fit a DCU2 if you have to but don't fit the nano as it is useless in pve.
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Pookoko
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Posted - 2011.05.02 07:25:00 -
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I think once you have 4 gyros and 3 TEs in the lows then anything else is pretty much matter of preference. I have cap booster instead of a SBA in the mid and the rest are similar.
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Songbird
Gallente T.I.E. Inc.
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Posted - 2011.05.02 08:15:00 -
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/me reads 'please provide tweaks' /me looks at OP's face...it's tweaked alright.
you can drive your ROF from 3.15 s to 2.96s ( and thus obtain 6% more DPS )by putting a t2 burst aerator rig. However if you want any tank with that you'd need a dedicated logi ship or at least cap booster.
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Goose99
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Posted - 2011.05.02 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Songbird /me reads 'please provide tweaks' /me looks at OP's face...it's tweaked alright.
you can drive your ROF from 3.15 s to 2.96s ( and thus obtain 6% more DPS )by putting a t2 burst aerator rig. However if you want any tank with that you'd need a dedicated logi ship or at least cap booster.
That's a rather poor way to do it. Just get a 5% implant.
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Atsuko Yamamoto
Spartan Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.05.02 20:26:00 -
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OP's setup is fine and will burn through 4s with little difficulty.
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Shaposhnikov
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Posted - 2011.05.04 12:16:00 -
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This Baby Varg
The rigs mke it look a bit weird, but it has been thoroughly tested. Swap the tracking comp for an AB when necessary. |
Companion Qube
Minmatar Electron Conservation Inc SRS.
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Posted - 2011.05.05 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Muddy Undies ...
Hey there cap-injected Pith XL booster buddy, I use something really similar:
[Machariel, mission whoring] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Signal Amplifier II
Pith B-Type X-Large Shield Booster Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Ballistic Deflection Field II Invulnerability Field II Domination 100MN Afterburner
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L [empty high slot]
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Large Projectile Burst Aerator II [empty rig slot]
Garde II x4 Hobgoblin II x5
Swap the sig amp out for whatever, I like the slight lock-range bonus and the scan res for popping frigs. The rof bonus from the burst aerator rig is nice too.
♥...they see me trollin', they hatin'
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Terianna Eri
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.05.06 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: Goose99
Originally by: Songbird /me reads 'please provide tweaks' /me looks at OP's face...it's tweaked alright.
you can drive your ROF from 3.15 s to 2.96s ( and thus obtain 6% more DPS )by putting a t2 burst aerator rig. However if you want any tank with that you'd need a dedicated logi ship or at least cap booster.
That's a rather poor way to do it. Just get a 5% implant.
Or do both.
Also you absolutely don't need a logi ship or cap booster on a Mach for level 4s even with a t2 aerator. ________________
Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2011.05.06 07:51:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri Or do both.
Also you absolutely don't need a logi ship or cap booster on a Mach for level 4s even with a t2 aerator.
This. Max your gank and the cap issues just take care of themselves.
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