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Rifter Enthusiast
Convex Enterprises THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:14:00 -
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When i bought em, i was under the impression they survived Pod death. RE: http://eve-search.com/thread/1570396/page/1 and many other threads.
However, i was recently podded lighting a t1 cyno frig and whooosh! no mone speed goggles!? I petitioned and was told it was an "Intended game mechanic".
So, with these new mechanics i think you've actually managed to put off one of the seemingly few supporters of nex, i have no use for nex **** that'll vanish with my pod - i'm not a carebear. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:18:00 -
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Excellent, if true.
Then they might finally actually become part of the market, and the NeX have the first traces of a purpose. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:18:00 -
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Do an in game item search. They should show up.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |
Rifter Enthusiast
Convex Enterprises THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:23:00 -
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Assets search turns up nothing, trust me i've looked.
Heres the strange part though, They still appear to be on in CQ, however they are removed and NOT available in Re-Customization |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:28:00 -
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That's awesome, you sir just made my day!
Also it seemed you got trolled by CCP, always a good thing! - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Louise Ferrigno
the dragon lives the dragons of eve
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:32:00 -
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while of course I'm not a fan of nex crap, I think if ccp promised something, the onus is on you to keep up to date regarding an unpopular design decision you've engaged in |
Rifter Enthusiast
Convex Enterprises THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:34:00 -
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Yep, thats what i get for having a little faith in ccp lol
I mean really? You flat out say Indestructible, all over the forums, and then reverse that silently? I really hope you expect to refund everyone who bought them on the premise that they were indestructible as you claimed them to be, And don't mean just reimburse the goggles i mean reimburse the PLEX originally used to obtain them because there's no way people will buy any NEX items that they cant freely use - this stuff is effectively useless... even in vanity terms. |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:35:00 -
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Did you check after downtime again? Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
mkint
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:39:00 -
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Destructible = good. pack of 50 or more at current AUR cost = better |
Rifter Enthusiast
Convex Enterprises THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:42:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Did you check after downtime again? http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10714139 (Edit: Apparently ccp's new board's link button inserts garbage into links) If theres any way to paste eve-kill links in eve forums that would be great ty
The kill was long before downtime, its still missing. I petitioned after the loss and the GM specifically said it was an Intended Game Mechanic I'd quote and post screenshots but i'd get banned.
Grats on the kill though i guess =p |
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:44:00 -
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With the lore of the EVE universe in mind, it is completely idiotic for them to survive a pod pop. If CCP implemented this then it is a lore sound decision.
EDIT: Did the goggles show up on the kill mail in the list of destoyed items?
Slade |
Rees Noturana
Red Rock Mining Company
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:45:00 -
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mkint wrote:Destructible = good. pack of 50 or more at current AUR cost = better
Agreed. Destructible but not at current prices. Rees Noturana // Professional Treasure Hunter |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:46:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Excellent, if true.
Then they might finally actually become part of the market, and the NeX have the first traces of a purpose.
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Rifter Enthusiast
Convex Enterprises THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:47:00 -
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Slade Trillgon wrote:With the lore of the EVE universe in mind, it is completely idiotic for them to survive a pod pop. If CCP implemented this then it is a lore sound decision.
Slade
Thats completely fine. If thats what they wanted to do with it they should have. However, they should NOT have told everyone they were INDESTRUCTABLE and then silently reverse that. If they want to reverse it, refund all the people who bought them because they were indestructable.
If i had any idea they would be blown up, i'd have never paid for anything out of that NEX store - I have no use for any of it with these "Game Mechanics" |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:49:00 -
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Rifter Enthusiast wrote:Assets search turns up nothing, trust me i've looked.
Heres the strange part though, They still appear to be on in CQ, however they are removed and NOT available in Re-Customization
That sounds like a bug. They should either be there, or gone, not partly one way and partly the other. If its still that way after a down time, bug report it. Screen shot yourself in CQ with them, and in re-customization without them, and describe how they got bugged.
Your attitude of "Ill not use it if it is destructible" it exactly why CCP made them indestructible. Or as I prefer to think of it: Your clothes are stored in the pod, and when the pod pops, a scan of your mind and your clothes is made, and both are reconstructed at your clone station. In other words, your worn clothes are destroyed when you get podded, you just get free replacements. CCP employees should never proclaim a feature to be awesome. Only subscribers should. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:50:00 -
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Louise Ferrigno wrote:while of course I'm not a fan of nex crap, I think if ccp promised something, the onus is on you to keep up to date regarding an unpopular design decision you've engaged in To be fair, if true, this would be a return to the original design as it was first described (and GÇ£promisedGÇ¥, if you like).
Rifter Enthusiast wrote:However, they should NOT have told everyone they were INDESTRUCTABLE and then silently reverse that. If they want to reverse it, refund all the people who bought them because they were indestructable. Again, if true, welcome to CCP CommunicationGǪ and lolno, that's just a classic case of caveat emptor. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Rifter Enthusiast
Convex Enterprises THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:56:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Rifter Enthusiast wrote:Assets search turns up nothing, trust me i've looked.
Heres the strange part though, They still appear to be on in CQ, however they are removed and NOT available in Re-Customization That sounds like a bug. They should either be there, or gone, not partly one way and partly the other. If its still that way after a down time, bug report it. Screen shot yourself in CQ with them, and in re-customization without them, and describe how they got bugged. Your attitude of "Ill not use it if it is destructible" it exactly why CCP made them indestructible. Or as I prefer to think of it: Your clothes are stored in the pod, and when the pod pops, a scan of your mind and your clothes is made, and both are reconstructed at your clone station. In other words, your worn clothes are destroyed when you get podded, you just get free replacements. Yeah, i really dont care what RP/Reasoning they make up to describe the mechanic, I just paid for these under the impression they wouldnt blow up - and now they do. So i should be given a special pair that never die - like the ones i PAID FOR - or you give me back my money.
RP/Reasoning: You're a ******* store and are illegally making false claims about your products. CONCORD should shut NeX Down, liquidate their assets and reimburse those who suffered losses from your scamming business model. |
Jokerface666
Ever Flow Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.09.27 18:59:00 -
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if they would appear in killsmails that would be just delicious!!! ------------------------------w00t w00t rapetrain------------------------------ |
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CCP Zymurgist
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.27 19:03:00 -
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If the NEX item is in your cargo hold it can very well go *POP* and make an interesting line on a killmail . On the other hand if you are wearing the item it should reappear on your character when your medical clone is activated.
Have you tried playing with the recustomization feature (The mirror in the CQ or the button on the station panel) and see if you can "remove" the goggles and have them show up in your inventory? I would do this and update your petition with any information you find to help sort out the problem.
I still see them on your avatar's portrait so it appears that you are still wearing them even after the pod loss. Although I haven't looked into your account so I can't tell you if that is an old image, new one, or a glitch. The GMs will be able to do that for you. Zymurgist Community Representative CCP NA, EVE Online Contact Us at http://support.eveonline.com/pages/petitions/createpetition.aspx |
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.09.27 19:04:00 -
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Too good to be true.
Must be a bug compounded with GM's poor knowledge of newer game design details. |
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Rifter Enthusiast
Convex Enterprises THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2011.09.27 19:05:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1532513&page=1#29
CCP Zinfandel:
Quote:Thanks for bringing this up. And I did chuckle at the great "killmail" above.
We finalized on the following characteristics: -clothing are destructible while in your cargo (like anything else) -clothing are not destroyed if podded while worn - you will wake up in your new clone wearing the same outfit -clothing does not travel with you if you take advantage of a jump clone - it remains in the previous station -items such as the eye implants or Amarr monocles which are installed in the body do NOT behave like implants but can be removed and put on again at will (or even resold.)
We believe these settings best serve both our current population as well as those players who come later and learn to play EVE Online without the benefit of a specific briefing on the new functionality.
I agree it sounded like a bug, which is why i petitioned. However CCP is telling me its a Game Mechanic and its intended for NeX clothing to be destroyed when podded. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.09.27 19:05:00 -
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Rifter Enthusiast wrote:I just paid for these under the impression they wouldnt blow up - and now they do. So i should be given a special pair that never die - like the ones i PAID FOR - or you give me back my money. EULA
10 E. New Releases of the Software You are not entitled to receive any new releases of the Software, or any expansion packs, updates, upgrades or similar products under the EULA, but CCP may, in its sole discretion, offer any or all of the foregoing to you. CCP may update, upgrade or otherwise enhance the Software at any time, in its sole discretion, without obligation to you.
11. A. Ownership of Software, System and Game As between you and CCP, CCP is the sole and exclusive owner of the Software, System, Game and Game Content (as defined below).
11. B. Rights to Certain Content You have no interest in the value of your time spent playing the Game, for example, by the building up of the experience level of your character and the items your character accumulates during your time playing the Game
12. NO WARRANTIES The Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game.
GǪso, no, you should not. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Rifter Enthusiast
Convex Enterprises THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2011.09.27 19:08:00 -
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CCP Zymurgist wrote:If the NEX item is in your cargo hold it can very well go *POP* and make an interesting line on a killmail . On the other hand if you are wearing the item it should reappear on your character when your medical clone is activated. Have you tried playing with the recustomization feature (The mirror in the CQ or the button on the station panel) and see if you can "remove" the goggles and have them show up in your inventory? I would do this and update your petition with any information you find to help sort out the problem. I still see them on your avatar's portrait so it appears that you are still wearing them even after the pod loss. Although I haven't looked into your account so I can't tell you if that is an old image, new one, or a glitch. The GMs will be able to do that for you.
I've searched for them in there. When i enter re-customization the goggles are not on my character's face, and i've went through each section and found no goggles anywhere. Assets search turns up nothing (with several tries to ensure no misspellings) |
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GM Karidor
Game Masters C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.27 19:09:00 -
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Clothes should be destructible only when you carry them around in your cargo hold (and that's been that way since they were introduced), in which case they will be handled like any other item in your cargo when the ship is blown to bits. However, as long as you are wearing them, they shouldn't be lost even if you are podded. As you say they still are on you in the captains quarters, that seems to be the case for you, Rifter Enthusiast. Them not showing up when you use the mirror would be a bug, as Vincent Athena already hinted upon.
Also, as long as you are wearing them, they won't show up in an asset search, so I'm not quite surprised about that bit, really.
However, have you tried jumpcloning ever since? That should force the NEX-clothes to drop into your hangar on the station you jumped away from and just may fix this for you. GM Karidor | Senior Game Master |
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Yasumoto
The Maverick Navy Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.09.27 19:11:00 -
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100% behind the OP regarding CCP and communication regarding game mechanic changes. Uncommunicated changes pertaining to CCP's most recent cash-grab venture are inexcusable when it comes to managing user expectations.
But also: death to the mono-goggle wearers!
Furthermore: I wonder if CCP Zulu would buy a 2nd pair of $1000 Japanese boutique jeans if his first pair of jeans unfortunately burned up in a fire? Serious questions for serious times. |
Rifter Enthusiast
Convex Enterprises THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2011.09.27 19:26:00 -
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Working my way back to a station so i can jumpclone and try... if this is a bug im truly sorry for ever doubting you ccp! lol I'll post in a few minutes when i can
The wiki needs more/better articles about NeX stuff because thats the first thing i checked, and could find nothing... except this petition telling me terrible terrible things! |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2011.09.27 19:27:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Rifter Enthusiast wrote:I just paid for these under the impression they wouldnt blow up - and now they do. So i should be given a special pair that never die - like the ones i PAID FOR - or you give me back my money. EULA10 E. New Releases of the SoftwareYou are not entitled to receive any new releases of the Software, or any expansion packs, updates, upgrades or similar products under the EULA, but CCP may, in its sole discretion, offer any or all of the foregoing to you. CCP may update, upgrade or otherwise enhance the Software at any time, in its sole discretion, without obligation to you. 11. A. Ownership of Software, System and GameAs between you and CCP, CCP is the sole and exclusive owner of the Software, System, Game and Game Content (as defined below). 11. B. Rights to Certain ContentYou have no interest in the value of your time spent playing the Game, for example, by the building up of the experience level of your character and the items your character accumulates during your time playing the Game 12. NO WARRANTIESThe Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game. GǪso, no, you should not.
People who throw around the EULA like it means anything should be multiply podded, with every single NEX item in their cargo hold
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.09.27 19:36:00 -
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Bumblefck wrote:People who throw around the EULA like it means anything should be multiply podded, with every single NEX item in their cargo hold People who think they are owed anything in an MMO where they don't own anything would be a better target GÇö then they'd maybe finally get the pointGǪ GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2011.09.27 19:38:00 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Tippia wrote:Rifter Enthusiast wrote:I just paid for these under the impression they wouldnt blow up - and now they do. So i should be given a special pair that never die - like the ones i PAID FOR - or you give me back my money. EULA10 E. New Releases of the SoftwareYou are not entitled to receive any new releases of the Software, or any expansion packs, updates, upgrades or similar products under the EULA, but CCP may, in its sole discretion, offer any or all of the foregoing to you. CCP may update, upgrade or otherwise enhance the Software at any time, in its sole discretion, without obligation to you. 11. A. Ownership of Software, System and GameAs between you and CCP, CCP is the sole and exclusive owner of the Software, System, Game and Game Content (as defined below). 11. B. Rights to Certain ContentYou have no interest in the value of your time spent playing the Game, for example, by the building up of the experience level of your character and the items your character accumulates during your time playing the Game 12. NO WARRANTIESThe Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game. GǪso, no, you should not. People who throw around the EULA like it means anything should be multiply podded, with every single NEX item in their cargo hold
People who know the rules of the game they play tend to do better than those who don't. |
Martyr Theos
The NecroMonger Faith
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Posted - 2011.09.27 19:42:00 -
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Now if CCP will just give us NOVA BOMBS,
we can use them to make the rest of the RMT/BOTTING/MOON ADVANTAGED crap go away as well and bring this game back into balance for everyone. |
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