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NeuroSpike
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Posted - 2011.05.11 04:48:00 -
[1141]
I'm new player and with all the nerf's and changes and people complaining good or bad I just cant see me sticking with it. I login set my skills and log out. the only way for us new guys to make isk and push past crap missions and earn our way to battleships is in empire.
People say, Join a large corp, So ya do, And the Sanctum nerf hits, People leave alliance or corp. Members don't login because they tell me that CCP is only interested in burning hulls.
Every time CCP says balance, I keep thinking this, One day were all going to login to eve and there will be just one type of every ship in each category. all 4 races will fly the very same damn ship. all in the name of BALANCE.
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Cellistara
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Posted - 2011.05.11 04:51:00 -
[1142]
Originally by: Morphiana Jo Everyone replying to this ought to include how many accounts they have, and how many they will ice when it goes into effect.
Hows CCP going to fix the market when everyone sells all their crap on they way out of the game, rushing to sell all their crap before the next crippling nerf. So CCP probably will lose several thousand monthly subscribers and they rush to crash the market with all their stuffs for sale. Only benefit I see to all this is maybe that T2 fit T2 ship is going to be half price... Oh and people selling their characters and or ice them until someone pulls their proverbial head out of the sand long enough to know that when the majority of the eve players say its bad Fing idea, its exactly that. But they will continue to ignore the player base trying to generate more GTC sales for themselves. Pretty soon they'll be down to 10,000 players active and laying off their employees because they didn't listen like all the other times before.
Hold your mugs and glasses up high, one legacy MMORPG with the "sandbox" versus the xbox knocked down several notches by the very hands who created it.
There is still time to change your mind CCP, "the choice is yours".
Regards,
MJ
P.S. Everyone replying to this ought to include how many accounts they have, and how many they will ice when it goes into effect.
13 accounts active, post nerf I'll be down to 2. And if the evaluation goes bad from there none.
Going from 8 to 4.
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Soldarius
Caldari Northstar Cabal Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.05.11 04:52:00 -
[1143]
The amount of hemorrhoidal butt-hurt in this thread is astounding. Nulsec is not supposed to be easy or risk-free. If you think it should be, Hello Kitty Online is ----> here. But before you quit Eve, remember to contract me all your stuff and send me your isk. I don't have the time to run 5 accounts, and am therefor not rich in game.
I think these changes will increase the opportunities for nonconsentual PvP. However, CCP still needs to reduce the range of non-black ops jump drives.
Originally by: CCP Shadow ...I cannot guarantee (my) sobriety or decency.
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Indy Rider
Amarr Element 115. Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.05.11 04:53:00 -
[1144]
Edited by: Indy Rider on 11/05/2011 04:54:24
Originally by: Fix Lag
Originally by: Indy Rider massive war in the north
It's really just been DRF and PL burning sov structures since the NC doesn't have enough supers to challenge them. Welcome to Dominion warfare.
It is a shame, that instead of an obvious rethink of how nullsec empire warfare is fought with (op) capital ships, we get;
"Hurrr, lets nerf JBs. We promise we'll tell you the rest later".
Considering CCPs track record with "improvements" there is no way I'll take their word for it.
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Daealdric
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Posted - 2011.05.11 04:54:00 -
[1145]
I know 0.0 is supposed to be risky. But there is supposed to be a reward to the risk. Whats the reward now, and is the increased risk worth it?
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Enthral
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Posted - 2011.05.11 04:54:00 -
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Edited by: Enthral on 11/05/2011 04:55:01 CCP, you are inventing problems to solve, and being disingenuous about your proposed solutions. Jump bridges make 0.0 more livable, and a good jump bridge network is not only the cornerstone of an alliance's logistics, but also an important strategic target for attackers. The pain of a key jump bridge hub being taken down by attackers can reverberate for weeks, fragmenting territory and demoralizing the defenders.
Why do you want to boil 0.0 alliance warfare down to gate camping, which is arguably the most boring and dreary aspect of PvP in EVE? Why take a system which allows us to create a vibrant and living alliance space, and turn it into difficult to manage fragmented islands of activity?
There is nothing wrong with jump bridges. You're just upset we're not playing the game the way you want us to.
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BetsyAnn Tractorfarmer
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Posted - 2011.05.11 04:55:00 -
[1147]
It's really tragic that CCP has no idea what the hell they are doing with the game and what players want. They certainly will continue with this stupid idea that THEIR way to play the game is the CORRECT way. NO! The way that the players want to play it is the correct way. You will never be able to force people to do something they dont want to, and trying to do that will only alienate you more and more from the playerbase! I'm glad that many people are going to leave the game, because this is a bad direction that it's been headed the last year or two and MAYBE, just MAYBE you'll understand that eve is losing what it made it special, being a true sandbox, not the devs sandbox.
They said that they're commited to excellence? That's utter and total bull**** seeing as what changes they make and how astoundingly stupid they are when it comes to these changes. There's no excellence in what you're doing and what you plan to do, there's only idiocy.
If you can't freaking understand that 40 pages of uproar and negative feedback in less than 12h not only on this change but on your stupid ways of changing the game that ultimately MAKE IT WORSE, then you need to be commited and get a psych eval since you fail on so many levels.
This is yet another demonstration that CCP doesn't give a rats ass about the playerbase and what the players want. CCP's excellence is in the crapper and it's most likely NEVER coming back.
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Lojik
Priory of Empire SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.11 04:56:00 -
[1148]
Quote: ...but if youÆre in an alliance with an intel channel and a semi-decent jumpbridge network, you have a pretty overwhelming degree of safety.
Is that not the whole idea about an alliance?
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Rothana Haldane
Minmatar Multiplex Gaming SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.11 05:01:00 -
[1149]
Well I can see already It's no use Arguing with them, They are going to do what they are going to do no matter what we say. they DO NOT CARE ABOUT THIER NUL SEC CUSTOMER BASE! PERIOD! CSM needs to grow a pair though and stand up for what the people voted them in office want...and tell CCCP (ooops a typo) no. this is not going to make it better. but hey I'm just a Nul sec player, so what do I know. I do know that if this does keep up, a lot of people will be leaving the game for something else. So much for the sandbox theory....I'm finding Cat poop in my Sandbox so it's time to leave.
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Versuvius Marii
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Posted - 2011.05.11 05:03:00 -
[1150]
Psst guys, CCP don't care. Incarna and DUST are coming out soon and will replace your accounts with other punters. You know I'm right. ============= HERE'S TO ME, HERE'S TO YOU, THE BEST OF FRIENDS, WILL ALWAYS BE! BUT IF WE SHOULD....DISAGREE! TO HELL WITH YOU AND HERE'S TO ME! CHUG! CHUG! CHUG! CHUG! ============= |
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DruzidelCastro
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.05.11 05:05:00 -
[1151]
guys i dont make eny money in 0.0 cuz liek my space sux nd i don't want to shoot my 25,000 blue frendses or go newhere else to get better space i think its broekn plz fix
also p.s. going an xtra jump thru a gate after jumpbrigging cuz my titen pilots dont log in is totaly gamebrakeing so plz fix or i quit VOTE WITH UR WALLIT HIT CCP WERE THEY HURT -8 ACOUNTS
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Si'ren
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.05.11 05:07:00 -
[1152]
good changes
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2011.05.11 05:13:00 -
[1153]
Edited by: Gnulpie on 11/05/2011 05:16:01
Originally by: CCP Soundwave We'll be looking at 0.0 this winter. We're hammering down the principles we'll work by as we speak, and they're being reviewed by the CSM. Once they've had their chance to give feedback in person (later this month), I'll happily post the groundwork for everyone to see.
It would be good if you also consider player feedback from the forums.
Relying onto the CSM too much isn't a good idea. They represent only a very small fraction of the game and most of them see the game from only one perspective.
So, please also listen to the "normal" player feedback!
The JB changes are most certainly a step into the right direction. Please more of this! EVE got already way too small and that has directly to do with jump- and titan bridges. You can move from one end of the universe to the other within a very short time - and that is BAD because it makes EVE small and dull. |
NeoShocker
Caldari Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.05.11 05:15:00 -
[1154]
Ok, lets see ...
I know JBs are a bit powerful, I agree of nerfing usability to sub caps (or ships without jump drive technology). I agree to this, but wonder about Jump freighters. I think those too should be allowed to use along with black ops.
I also agree with the fuel cargo increase.
I disagree with one JB limit per system.
I thought JB is a reward for alliances that owned and HELD the system for a long time, which should be a worthwhile investment, not a less useful system i-hub upgrade.
I support all JB changes, except the 2 limit per system. Other 0.0 I changes I recommend are:
1. All wrecks belong to everyone in 0.0. 2. Delayed local (or make it similar to WH). 2a. Add a system upgrade for alliance owners that local can be as normal today. I say sov level 4 or 5 required.
Risk vs reward. 0.0 have tons of risk, so it should reward for system holders, especially when holding said system for months.
I look forward for other possible future 0.0 changes. 0.0 change are needed. ----------------------------------- Peace through power! |
Major Stallion
The Dark Horses.
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Posted - 2011.05.11 05:17:00 -
[1155]
Edited by: Major Stallion on 11/05/2011 05:17:24 good to see the bitter is still strong with the power blocs and their pets...keep it coming, these are the best tears we've ever seen in Eve's history
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Erica Serine
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Posted - 2011.05.11 05:17:00 -
[1156]
if u apply this change ccp u are going to **** off alot of the ppl that put the money in ur pocket. bad idea.
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Flesh Slurper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.05.11 05:19:00 -
[1157]
It's funny to see the main supporters of this change are PL people. Of course they would support it because it nerfs all other types of 0.0 game play except for the supercap blobs that PL uses. Now their supercap blobs can project far and wide, while conventional defense fleets have twice the jumps with massively increased infrastructure cost to maintain (for every 3 bridges on a network before, you now need a 4th to get the same distance). Funny enough this change was rushed through right as PL/DRF are fighting vs the NC.
Wonder who in CCP is on the DRF payroll?
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SexxxSlave
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Posted - 2011.05.11 05:21:00 -
[1158]
Originally by: NeoShocker Risk vs reward. 0.0 have tons of risk, so it should reward for system holders, especially when holding said system for months.
can you show me where on the map this would apply to your elite sov holding alliance? Map
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Sieran
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Posted - 2011.05.11 05:23:00 -
[1159]
3 accounts yesterday. By this weekend 1 - if that.
Terrible execution. Have you ever seen an over-officiated sporting event? That's what EVE is going to become - if it isn't there already.
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Achaikos
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Posted - 2011.05.11 05:25:00 -
[1160]
Better CCP thinks good for what they are going to do as allot of people are already against it!
But i doubt CCP is gonna listen.
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Tobias Sjodin
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.05.11 05:31:00 -
[1161]
More tears please.
0.0 used to have no jump bridges whatsoever and alliances managed fine.
Adapt or die.
HABIT
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Levarr Burton
B0rthole Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.05.11 05:35:00 -
[1162]
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin More tears please.
0.0 used to have no jump bridges whatsoever and alliances managed fine.
Adapt or die.
Was that way back when dinosaurs were around and PL had a meaningful amount of Sov? In ur engineering, fixin' ur warp core. |
Guyver Kalithdor
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Posted - 2011.05.11 05:35:00 -
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There is two groups of 0.0 players posting here. There is every 0.0 player that is ****ed about this bull**** change, and there is Pandemic Legion trolling the rest of us. PL holds 1 system and that NOL-M9. (check your eve ingame map) PL was paid and ships bought for by russian botters who not only bot but were caught real money trading..
It's not a big secret... It's the white elephant in the room.. CCP banned a lot of them, still barly scratched the surface.
PL (who BTW has a very large Super capital fleet) will not be affected by this. Not only do they hold no space, but they were given money and super caps by other players breaking all of CCP rules. (Awesome job CCP)
But even PL, if they were being honest and not just trying to troll everyone, would admit this is a bad idea.
I just have one last question for CCP... How much does a mothership cost in out of game real money BTW? What's the average? Like lets say out of the last 100 you know were sold for real money, what was the average price?
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Guyver Kalithdor
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Posted - 2011.05.11 05:45:00 -
[1164]
Its also funny to put the names of people posting on this thread into the eve killboard and see if they even pvp at all.
Like Gnulpie with 4 lifetime kills and 9 lifetime losses... And all kills and losses in 0.4 or higher.
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Miso Hawnee
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Posted - 2011.05.11 05:46:00 -
[1165]
Edited by: Miso Hawnee on 11/05/2011 05:51:00
Originally by: Guyver Kalithdor There is two groups of 0.0 players posting here. There is every 0.0 player that is ****ed about this bull**** change, and there is Pandemic Legion trolling the rest of us. PL holds 1 system and that NOL-M9. (check your eve ingame map) PL was paid and ships bought for by russian botters who not only bot but were caught real money trading..
It's not a big secret... It's the white elephant in the room.. CCP banned a lot of them, still barly scratched the surface.
PL (who BTW has a very large Super capital fleet) will not be affected by this. Not only do they hold no space, but they were given money and super caps by other players breaking all of CCP rules. (Awesome job CCP)
But even PL, if they were being honest and not just trying to troll everyone, would admit this is a bad idea.
I just have one last question for CCP... How much does a mothership cost in out of game real money BTW? What's the average? Like lets say out of the last 100 you know were sold for real money, what was the average price?
Super carrier goes for around 600 USD. Titans go for 2200 or more. All this on a site that had its customer database released into public domain 30 days ago. Yet they are still in operation. Skreegs, what the ****?
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Feyleaf
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Posted - 2011.05.11 05:49:00 -
[1166]
Originally by: Enthral
There is nothing wrong with jump bridges. You're just upset we're not playing the game the way you want us to.
This ^^
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LadyJane Serranova
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Posted - 2011.05.11 05:50:00 -
[1167]
Greetings CCP and Other New Eden Citizens;
I have read every post and I am going to throw in my little part. I am sorry to see this type of response get called "up grade or Balance" it's just the opposite. This is just seen as an attempt to break up the large power blocks. IF you wish to continue with these changes, and i'm sure you will, lets make sure the alliance with SOV has control over them, IE can drop some "effective weaponry" make it a control-able thing....
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Blade Wolling
Gallente GrayHorse Enterprises VIOLENCE INC.
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Posted - 2011.05.11 05:52:00 -
[1168]
One more reason to stay out of Null sec. Create more player interaction? Sure, but only PvP. Friendly player interaction does not occur in Null sec. Go into a system to try to make new friends? No, you get podded instead. Too many players are more interested in ganging up on lesser experienced players than forming new alliances. Blade Wolling |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.05.11 05:53:00 -
[1169]
Why are so many of you opposed to putting forth :effort: in null sec living? You want 100% safety, massive power projection and effort free logistics. Please explain this.
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Joe Space
Pod Liberation Authority
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Posted - 2011.05.11 05:53:00 -
[1170]
LOVE THIS THREAD!!
enough tears to last the rest of the year.
and a totally needed and welcome change. n1 ccp.
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