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scarfo
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.05.13 17:13:00 -
[2041]
The starting point for that is identifying 0.0s weaknesses, and developing guidelines for what 0.0 ôshouldö be. Luckily, the CSM will be joining us this month so the players are adequately represented. WeÆll have several sessions with them and hopefully they will be able to contribute to our goal. To give you a quick peek at the type of topics weÆre looking at when doing this evaluation (in no particular order):
Are you telling me that you havent allready identified 0.0s weaknesses?, that there are no guide lines allready in place? and you dont know what 0.0 should be?
Ccp it seems that youre just blindly lurching from pillar to post and that there is no overall stratagey and no sense of a cohesive direction, i hope you prove me wrong!!! typos and stupid clumsy fingers :/
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Karles
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Posted - 2011.05.13 17:26:00 -
[2042]
I have some suggestions for CCP
- Remove all capitals, cynos, cynojammers, jumpbridges and Jump beacons. Whover wants ships moved has to move them by gates.
- Until you get 75m sp you will not be able to use BS's. Everyone using a drake will be banned for life.
- T2 can only be used if you have more than 4k kills. T3 only when you get 4k kills IN T2 SHIPS.
- No more nullsec, lowsec or concord. Everyone can be killed everywhere. And if you look badly someone you became automatically bountied and pursued through all universe.
- Rats from now on have 10m bounties for starter frigates and 3b for BS.
- Rat ships from now on are supplied by the former Concord ship supplier.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.05.13 17:31:00 -
[2043]
Originally by: scarfo ..(they are supposed to represent a broad cross section of the community)
"Supposed to" as opposed to "Are" .. huge difference. Asking the current CSM about base changes is like asking for gun control advice from a gun manufacturer PS: Read the Assembly Hall. Topics for the upcoming summit are mostly null related with very few exceptions. CCP apparently mean business this time.
Wonder if the bloat entities that have relied on mechanics to keep their space (space, not sov) safe are able to adapt .. policing the space-lanes is proper oldschool Eve and was one of the most fun parts to boot, glad its coming back.
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Falin Whalen
Gallente GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.05.13 17:36:00 -
[2044]
If you haven't figured out how to kill dumb people in 0.0 you are probably too stupid to play video games.
I guess that is why PL really love this 'tweak'.
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Rebel biscuit
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Posted - 2011.05.13 17:42:00 -
[2045]
Edited by: Rebel biscuit on 13/05/2011 17:44:29 Dear ccp
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Mortimer Civeri
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.05.13 17:52:00 -
[2046]
Quote: The game as it stands now though rewards nothing except bot friendly behavior or the control of certain moon minerals. Rewind 3-4 years ago. The only thing that's changed is that static complexes are on this list now as well.
The game is fundamentally broken favoring automated PvE objectives and providing PvP only as a means to ensure large scale level alliance income a la moons. This type of income does nothing for nor encourages small scale warfare.
I'm not offering any solutions because f**k after playing 5 years of EVE it seems like the only thing the game is good for is starting a conversation about "How would you fix EVE"?
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Phigmeta
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Posted - 2011.05.13 18:03:00 -
[2047]
Originally by: Klausan I resubbed with my 5 accounts because of this change, and my friends are resubbing with atleast 30 more accounts.
Wow i had no idea welfare paid so well ...
i call BS we know you don't have that many friends. AND NO the guys that beats you up and take your lunch money IS NOT YOUR FRIEND
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Phigmeta
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Posted - 2011.05.13 18:06:00 -
[2048]
Originally by: Geralden Now we just need to get rid of all supercapitals and T3 ships from the game. They give unfair advantages and are not in touch with the other ships, so because it's more easy to remove than rebalance they should be deleted from the game.
Since 95% of supers have been build by RMT'ers, supers should be deleted without any form of compensation. CSAA's will still be there, and will cost 500% more to upkeep, since there will be a big influx of players needing regular capital ships beeing build, after the death of all supers.
T3 ships are too powerfull compared to their sig radius, so damage migration is not in balance with any other ships in the game. They should be compensated, so there will be 2 racial HACs in your hangar instead of the racial t3 version.
Now, we're closer to a more open PVP enviroment.
but but ...if you don't have RMT funded fleets .. what would PL do as a corp?
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't nerf the T3 and Supers ... without them the NCdot would not even be a challenge
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Phigmeta
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Posted - 2011.05.13 18:11:00 -
[2049]
Originally by: davet517 Edited by: davet517 on 13/05/2011 12:36:34 Edited by: davet517 on 13/05/2011 12:29:23
Originally by: Tango Zulu
Back on topic: If Pandemic Legion wants to speak about sovereign space related issues, let me point you to them losing NOL-M9 to TEST. Just showing for those out of the loop that PL either legitimately doesn't care about sovereignty, and thus shouldn't be speaking of sovereign space module related issues, or they are literally the worst at eve now that BoB has died, again. (Don't give me that RaidenDOT crap, you're 4 months old.)
On topic? This thread is about PL now? And, WTF? We still owned NOL? Did the Testies have, like, a cloaker in there for a few weeks to make sure the bogey man was gone before boldly conquering it?
Quote: You say we shouldn't be safe in our space, because it's 0.0. I say you shouldn't be safer in our 0.0 because of an administrative decision. For every action, there is an equal but opposite reaction. Now you will see how it works to you:
There are only a couple of significant effects of this change.
First, you will not be able to move capitals and super-capitals from cyno-jammed system to cyno-jammed system anymore without exposing them, at least briefly, to attack by other capitals and super-capitals. So, you won't be able to move capitals and supers around between cyno-jammed systems to protect those jammers. But you're the sov expert, so you know this, right?
The second is that small groups and individuals will not be able to move in complete safety from other small groups and individuals. I'll be able to camp your choke point gates with one, or a few, and if you want to be safe, you'll have to bring more than one, or a few, to negotiate that gate.
Quote: You want enemy sovereign space to be safer for yourselves PL, and for that I attest you are deep-pocketed cowards.
No, I'd like to be able to attack your caps and super-caps with my caps and super-caps when you move them around, and I'd like to be able to engage you with something less than a blob.
Quote: Of course herein lies the point where someone out here goes "U mad?"
Well, not to be Captain Obvious, but you do seem pretty mad, and it seems to be keeping you from looking at this objectively.
Quote: Some statistics (Not giving locations, you can dotlan the rest): We have 68 systems. We have 28 outposts. Goonwaffe owns 13 jumpbridge links, some systems have more than one.
You have my sympathy. I've had to maintain that kind of crap myself.
Quote: You try to make the NC look bad through speculation, we successfully make you look bad through fact. :dealwizit:
Actually, most of us just want you to keep raging so we can laugh at you. Some geezers like me, though, might take a little pity and try to talk you down out of the tree you're in. Here, kitty kitty kitty.
One thing that I'll give you is that the timing of this stinks. Making changes that are literally game changing in the middle of a major conflict isn't the greatest, but, CCP has a history of that. Goons would have been utterly crushed by Bob and friends a long time ago if remote doomsdays hadn't been taken away in the middle of a war. If that was before your time, ask around.
This isn't CCP moving away from the "sandbox" concept, at all. They just recognize that passive defenses are a little too good right now, and the balance needs to move back toward requiring players to put up an active defense.
LOL looking back at your corp history and seeing IT
I think we know whos mad don't we bro
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Phigmeta
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Posted - 2011.05.13 18:13:00 -
[2050]
Originally by: Karles I have some suggestions for CCP
- Remove all capitals, cynos, cynojammers, jumpbridges and Jump beacons. Whover wants ships moved has to move them by gates.
- Until you get 75m sp you will not be able to use BS's. Everyone using a drake will be banned for life.
- T2 can only be used if you have more than 4k kills. T3 only when you get 4k kills IN T2 SHIPS.
- No more nullsec, lowsec or concord. Everyone can be killed everywhere. And if you look badly someone you became automatically bountied and pursued through all universe.
- Rats from now on have 10m bounties for starter frigates and 3b for BS.
- Rat ships from now on are supplied by the former Concord ship supplier.
you must be a PL alt .. eve would be a noob graveyard
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Phigmeta
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Posted - 2011.05.13 18:22:00 -
[2051]
Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
Originally by: scarfo ..(they are supposed to represent a broad cross section of the community)
"Supposed to" as opposed to "Are" .. huge difference. Asking the current CSM about base changes is like asking for gun control advice from a gun manufacturer
As appose to what .. a group of Hoplophobic idiots who talk in broad statements that are not based in fact but rather emotion and ideal even though the facts don't agree with them...
Originally by: scarfo
PS: Read the Assembly Hall. Topics for the upcoming summit are mostly null related with very few exceptions. CCP apparently mean business this time.
Wonder if the bloat entities that have relied on mechanics to keep their space (space, not sov) safe are able to adapt .. policing the space-lanes is proper oldschool Eve and was one of the most fun parts to boot, glad its coming back.
Well of COURSE they mean business this time .. CCP wants their payoff from the RMT corp.
ya know ... a lot has been said about how "mad" the NC is ... we will still be here after the changes and it won't change much for us ...... but it is gonna make things even more boring in null ... many of us will be playing less .. and paying less because well who wants to run gate convoys.
does that mean the NC will fail ... no
.... cause bots can't fight and PL doesn't do much but "look like they are winning"
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Mortimer Civeri
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.05.13 18:27:00 -
[2052]
Dang, this guy saw what was going to happen 5 months ago.
Linkage
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.05.13 18:47:00 -
[2053]
Originally by: Mortimer Civeri Dang, this guy saw what was going to happen 5 months ago.
Linkage
^ Damn. Guess I was right to jump on that bandwagon. Had been a bit worried they would get nerfed.
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Dark Nephilium
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Posted - 2011.05.13 18:56:00 -
[2054]
Originally by: lance goodtrusts oh on a much more joyful note this nerf will be a huge death blow to the nc. the defensvie bridge network they have accross the front is now history its been there for a few years now . awesome lets see mh come help razor now on a whim. ccp fallout has done his own little bit to divide and conquer the nc awesome job on that regard. i guess ccp is tired of the nc smack talkers in local as much as the rest of us.
Shows how little you guys actually know. It is a very rare occurrence to have a fleet use the jb's as we prefer to leave fuel in them so our logistics don't get stranded at empty jb.
JB change doesn't really affect the ability to project force where needed. That is what titan bridges are for.
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Ohh Yeah
SniggWaffe FREE KARTTOON NOW
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Posted - 2011.05.13 19:06:00 -
[2055]
Originally by: Falin Whalen If you haven't figured out how to kill dumb people in 0.0 you are probably too stupid to play video games.
I guess that is why PL really love this 'tweak'.
Quoting for OBVIOUS truth here
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Mortimer Civeri
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.05.13 19:08:00 -
[2056]
Looks like I have to train up a SuperCap before I can play in the big kids pool. Thanks CCP for being so ******ed.
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.05.13 19:38:00 -
[2057]
Originally by: Mortimer Civeri Looks like I have to train up a SuperCap before I can play in the big kids pool. Thanks CCP for being so ******ed.
Training is the easy part really. Convincing someone to sell you one and getting the isk to pay for it are the hard part.
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.05.13 19:39:00 -
[2058]
Adapt or die!
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.05.13 19:48:00 -
[2059]
Originally by: Marlona Sky Adapt or die!
I did. Not as fun. Did you do the supercaps online upgrade?
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Karles
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Posted - 2011.05.13 20:00:00 -
[2060]
Originally by: Phigmeta
Originally by: Karles I have some suggestions for CCP
- Remove all capitals, cynos, cynojammers, jumpbridges and Jump beacons. Whover wants ships moved has to move them by gates.
- Until you get 75m sp you will not be able to use BS's. Everyone using a drake will be banned for life.
- T2 can only be used if you have more than 4k kills. T3 only when you get 4k kills IN T2 SHIPS.
- No more nullsec, lowsec or concord. Everyone can be killed everywhere. And if you look badly someone you became automatically bountied and pursued through all universe.
- Rats from now on have 10m bounties for starter frigates and 3b for BS.
- Rat ships from now on are supplied by the former Concord ship supplier.
you must be a PL alt .. eve would be a noob graveyard
1.- Check Killmails ( I must be the best PL alt in history) http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=86265 2.- A couple links that I thought you might find useful:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.05.13 20:03:00 -
[2061]
Originally by: Bagehi
Originally by: Marlona Sky Adapt or die!
I did. Not as fun. Did you do the supercaps online upgrade?
I did, but I hate FOTM (FOTY?) so I uninstalled it.
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Phigmeta
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Posted - 2011.05.13 21:22:00 -
[2062]
Originally by: Karles
Originally by: Phigmeta
Originally by: Karles I have some suggestions for CCP
- Remove all capitals, cynos, cynojammers, jumpbridges and Jump beacons. Whover wants ships moved has to move them by gates.
- Until you get 75m sp you will not be able to use BS's. Everyone using a drake will be banned for life.
- T2 can only be used if you have more than 4k kills. T3 only when you get 4k kills IN T2 SHIPS.
- No more nullsec, lowsec or concord. Everyone can be killed everywhere. And if you look badly someone you became automatically bountied and pursued through all universe.
- Rats from now on have 10m bounties for starter frigates and 3b for BS.
- Rat ships from now on are supplied by the former Concord ship supplier.
you must be a PL alt .. eve would be a noob graveyard
1.- Check Killmails ( I must be the best PL alt in history) http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=86265 2.- A couple links that I thought you might find useful:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony
You missed the reference earlier. Pl always claims your an alt of someone if you disagree with the JB "tweak"
Just like when they swear they don't use covert ops ... and yet i just finished decloaking one off a gate with a bomb
soz i prolly didn't make that obvious enough
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Phigmeta
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Posted - 2011.05.13 21:24:00 -
[2063]
Originally by: Marlona Sky Adapt or die!
*looks at employment history*
LAWL
I love irony
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John McCreedy
Caldari Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2011.05.13 21:50:00 -
[2064]
Originally by: davet517
You want to be able to blob up from all over the map with your stragglers safe from being picked off, ok fine, but man up and just be pro-blob rather than trying to have it both ways.
Who said anything about wanting to catch a blob? I certainly didn't. I can get maybe ten guys online in my corp. these days, which hardly constitutes a blob, and if they go out on a roam and I log on and they're 15 jumps away as opposed to 2 jump bridges away then I'm more likely to log off and play something else than risk a ship un-scouted.
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.05.13 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Phigmeta
Originally by: Marlona Sky Adapt or die!
*looks at employment history*
LAWL
I love irony
Says the 5 month old character...
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Myz Toyou
APOCALYPSE LEGION
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Posted - 2011.05.13 22:18:00 -
[2066]
Originally by: Marlona Sky
Originally by: Phigmeta
Originally by: Marlona Sky Adapt or die!
*looks at employment history*
LAWL
I love irony
Says the 5 month old character...
Just ignore him, even his BFF flamed him in CAOD because he is such a ****** full of teenageangst to lose his safe jew heaven.
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Phigmeta
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Posted - 2011.05.13 22:42:00 -
[2067]
Originally by: Marlona Sky
Originally by: Phigmeta
Originally by: Marlona Sky Adapt or die!
*looks at employment history*
LAWL
I love irony
Says the 5 month old character...
You mad bro, cause ya sound mad bro
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Phigmeta
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Posted - 2011.05.13 22:44:00 -
[2068]
Originally by: Myz Toyou
Originally by: Marlona Sky
Originally by: Phigmeta
Originally by: Marlona Sky Adapt or die!
*looks at employment history*
LAWL
I love irony
Says the 5 month old character...
Just ignore him, even his BFF flamed him in CAOD because he is such a ****** full of teenageangst to lose his safe jew heaven.
ahh .. your broke?, and all out of cash to buy more PLEX? .... soz man .. but ya don't have to blame us jews.
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stonewall ironside
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Posted - 2011.05.13 22:45:00 -
[2069]
Originally by: Phigmeta
Originally by: Marlona Sky E .+ ` ' / +. F Your tears fuel me!
Your overused ASCII boars me ... undock for gods sake.
this from the guy with half the posts on 2 of the last 3 pages.
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Ben Derindar
Dirty Deeds Corp.
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Posted - 2011.05.13 23:00:00 -
[2070]
Originally by: John McCreedy Between choke-point gate camps, hostile roams and black ops hot drops there's no shortage of opportunity for PvP. Us nullsec dwellers don't use Jump Bridges to avoid PvP, we use it to get to where it's going on faster.
Most Eve players can't power play for hours on end. If we log on and a fleet has left our only realistic way of participating in it is by using Jump Bridges to catch up. Now you want to remove that meaning more people who miss fleets leaving will be more inclined to log right off again.
Hey John, do you remember when ASCN took Omist in 2005? I do. When I got home and logged in from Impass the fleet was already out there shooting the stations. Or perhaps you remember the many outposts we set up in Feythabolis. The ones at the bottom of Feyth were an especially long way to get to from 68FT. You may even recall how we conspired with LV to get revenge on that corp thief Eddy Hascal; when LV put the word out that it was about to happen, I had to scramble myself from Impass to Tenerifis within the hour.
In all three cases, the situation was already underway and time was short if I didn't want to miss out. So you know what I did?
I few a ceptor.
You can, too.
Originally by: John McCreedy You also say it's relatively lifeless and boring and yet these changes, coupled with the previous soverignty changes are forcing nullsec dwellers into a smaller concentration of systems. If you want to make the whole of 0.0 exciting for PvPers then you need to give those who live there a reason to spread out lessening the number of jumps a fleet has to go to find targets. The tighter the concentration of pilots, the harder it is for a small gang to engage in combat and the higher the likelihood of them being blobbed.
Having fewer blues also means not having to fly as far to find a fight. Did you ever consider that?
Imagine an Eve where the biggest alliances were no more than ~500 or so people. Where it took so long to get anywhere that there was simply no point in having such massive NAP lists spanning half the galaxy anymore. For anyone to get "good fights", their best options were in fact their immediate neighbours. There would still be fleet battles involving hundreds on each side, without the worry of the opposition being able to batphone for help and have it arrive from literally anywhere within hours, and without the crippling lag that today's largest battles always induce.
This JB change is absolutely for the best as far as the greater health of the game is concerned. There are other changes that need to happen too: in particular capital ship jump ranges need a severe nerf, and I'd also like to see jump clone timers extended to at least 48 hours, if not more. But this is a good start; anything that serves to break down conflict in Eve from the current global level, back to the more manageable regional level it used to be, is a Very Good ThingÖ.
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