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Kor Shivat
Minmatar Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.05.14 01:34:00 -
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I appreciate the fact CCP has given away new content going many years, now. But there does seem to be a problem satisfying the (many) demands of (many) different game segments. I for one would pay forty bucks for an expansion here, just as I have in other games, on the understanding this gives a developer resources to, well, expand.
You could even take a page from the game's marketing hype, and let cold hard cash decide what to build. Offer pre-orders:
$40 buys you access to dedicated large-fleet combat space with servers switches and packet sniffers galore.
$40 buys you access to dedicated small-fleet combat space where nothing bigger than a cruiser gets in and fleets are of limited size.
$40 buys you access to dedicated mission space where CONCORD has scrambled target locks on non pirate faction ships and disabled smart bombs.
$40 buys you access to dedicated exploration space where the scans are particularly difficult but you are the only one there.
Build what generates the biggest pool of money.
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Aeronwen Carys
Empire of Dust
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Posted - 2011.05.14 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kor Shivat I appreciate the fact CCP has given away new content going many years, now. But there does seem to be a problem satisfying the (many) demands of (many) different game segments. I for one would pay forty bucks for an expansion here, just as I have in other games, on the understanding this gives a developer resources to, well, expand.
You could even take a page from the game's marketing hype, and let cold hard cash decide what to build. Offer pre-orders:
$40 buys you access to dedicated large-fleet combat space with servers switches and packet sniffers galore.
$40 buys you access to dedicated small-fleet combat space where nothing bigger than a cruiser gets in and fleets are of limited size.
$40 buys you access to dedicated mission space where CONCORD has scrambled target locks on non pirate faction ships and disabled smart bombs.
$40 buys you access to dedicated exploration space where the scans are particularly difficult but you are the only one there.
Build what generates the biggest pool of money.
Normally I like to at least try and give a full bodied answer, but all I can say is no, hell no, and **** no. The day CCP shard EVE in this way is the day it curls up, kisses its own backside and dies.
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Lacrous
Amarr Requiem.
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Posted - 2011.05.14 01:39:00 -
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No
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Kor Shivat
Minmatar Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.05.14 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Aeronwen Carys Normally I like to at least try and give a full bodied answer, but all I can say is no, hell no, and **** no. The day CCP shard EVE in this way is the day it curls up, kisses its own backside and dies.
So you say. Of course, if the pre-orders demonstrated demand sufficient to warrant the investment, cold hard real world markets would be saying otherwise.
Any dedicated EVE player understands cold hard market reality, yes?
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baltec1
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Posted - 2011.05.14 01:44:00 -
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Ordais
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Posted - 2011.05.14 01:52:00 -
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Not only do we already pay for expansions (subscriptions always were a bit higher then average), there was enough money left for the company not only to run EVE, but to expand from what, 40 to 650ppl?
That only a fraction of devtime goes towards EVE is not our fault, is it?
CCP, as a company, had made the decision (and rightly so) to expand into other ventures and games, even if they hope EVE is gonna last forever. But it will not, and putting all your hopes on one product is risky anywas.
So, to repeat myself: no!
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daddys helper
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Posted - 2011.05.14 02:16:00 -
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how much for a "I win" button on the GUI?
or how about 40 bucks buys you a ship that can't be hit nigh-invunrable shields for your bot fleet?
the sad thing is the above stupid things would be in higher demand than your actual serious idea
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Corina's Bodyguard
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Posted - 2011.05.14 02:40:00 -
[8]
 I've never seen so much that I am against in one post.
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Kesshisan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.05.14 03:15:00 -
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Will you permit me to buy the expansion with PLEX?
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LittleTerror
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2011.05.14 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kor Shivat I appreciate the fact CCP has given away new content going many years, now. But there does seem to be a problem satisfying the (many) demands of (many) different game segments. I for one would pay forty bucks for an expansion here, just as I have in other games, on the understanding this gives a developer resources to, well, expand.
+stuff
I guess money grows on trees where you live? 
Paying for 2 - 3 accounts with a fairly expensive subscription is enough I think... |

Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.05.14 03:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kor Shivat I appreciate the fact CCP has given away new content going many years, now. But there does seem to be a problem satisfying the (many) demands of (many) different game segments. I for one would pay forty bucks for an expansion here, just as I have in other games, on the understanding this gives a developer resources to, well, expand.
You could even take a page from the game's marketing hype, and let cold hard cash decide what to build. Offer pre-orders:
$40 buys you access to dedicated large-fleet combat space with servers switches and packet sniffers galore.
$40 buys you access to dedicated small-fleet combat space where nothing bigger than a cruiser gets in and fleets are of limited size.
$40 buys you access to dedicated mission space where CONCORD has scrambled target locks on non pirate faction ships and disabled smart bombs.
$40 buys you access to dedicated exploration space where the scans are particularly difficult but you are the only one there.
Build what generates the biggest pool of money.
Congratulations, you just bought yourself World of Warcraft in spaceships. I can't heal stupid
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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2011.05.14 04:04:00 -
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this sounds like one of those ideas that sounds really really good after a couple beers....
.. have you been drinking?
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robbyx
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Posted - 2011.05.14 04:05:00 -
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Originally by: Kor Shivat
Originally by: Aeronwen Carys Normally I like to at least try and give a full bodied answer, but all I can say is no, hell no, and **** no. The day CCP shard EVE in this way is the day it curls up, kisses its own backside and dies.
So you say. Of course, if the pre-orders demonstrated demand sufficient to warrant the investment, cold hard real world markets would be saying otherwise.
Any dedicated EVE player understands cold hard market reality, yes?
Obviously you neither understand the market or EVE onlines place in that market. The only thing holding EVE together is the whole "single shard, shared experience" thing...EVE is much to niche to stand against other games of that type, and it would most certainly spell EVE's doom if they tried it.
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Tamahra
Gallente Apina.
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Posted - 2011.05.14 04:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kor Shivat
So you say. Of course, if the pre-orders demonstrated demand sufficient to warrant the investment, cold hard real world markets would be saying otherwise.
Any dedicated EVE player understands cold hard market reality, yes?
This game is not for you. Stfu, get out and donŠt forget to close the door behind you.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2011.05.14 04:07:00 -
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Edited by: Tres Farmer on 14/05/2011 04:08:29
Originally by: Kor Shivat I appreciate the fact CCP has given away new content going many years, now. But there does seem to be a problem satisfying the (many) demands of (many) different game segments. I for one would pay forty bucks for an expansion here, just as I have in other games, on the understanding this gives a developer resources to, well, expand.
You could even take a page from the game's marketing hype, and let cold hard cash decide what to build.
*snip*
Build what generates the biggest pool of money.
CCP repeatedly stated they don't aim for that goal, mate. So suggesting this is more or less pointless and got you the answers above.
Originally by: Tamahra *snap*
/edit: Can someone please move this to the features & ideas forum please?
Hell no, let it die here. Enough rubbish gets moved from GD to F&I. Thanks a lot!
Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody!  |

Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.05.14 04:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kor Shivat I appreciate the fact CCP has given away new content going many years, now. But there does seem to be a problem satisfying the (many) demands of (many) different game segments. I for one would pay forty bucks for an expansion here, just as I have in other games, on the understanding this gives a developer resources to, well, expand.
You could even take a page from the game's marketing hype, and let cold hard cash decide what to build. Offer pre-orders:
$40 buys you access to dedicated large-fleet combat space with servers switches and packet sniffers galore.
$40 buys you access to dedicated small-fleet combat space where nothing bigger than a cruiser gets in and fleets are of limited size.
$40 buys you access to dedicated mission space where CONCORD has scrambled target locks on non pirate faction ships and disabled smart bombs.
$40 buys you access to dedicated exploration space where the scans are particularly difficult but you are the only one there.
Build what generates the biggest pool of money.
This is an excellent and very successful business model for a big game. Think, WoW.
EvE is not that kind of game and the "new" "content" that is released with each new expansion is not the kind that justifies charging anything for - much less the traditional $40.
As much as WoW is a flawed game [I can say this having played from 3 months after release until about 2 months ago], the expansions really do give you truly NEW content - and a lot of it.
When EvE starts to do that, then we can talk about paid-for expansion content.
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Kuronaga
Kantian Principle
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Posted - 2011.05.14 04:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kor Shivat
Originally by: Aeronwen Carys Normally I like to at least try and give a full bodied answer, but all I can say is no, hell no, and **** no. The day CCP shard EVE in this way is the day it curls up, kisses its own backside and dies.
So you say. Of course, if the pre-orders demonstrated demand sufficient to warrant the investment, cold hard real world markets would be saying otherwise.
Real world economics have nothing to do with quality gameplay.
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Gangster101 PureLove
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Posted - 2011.05.14 04:56:00 -
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$39.99 for an expansion sounds good to me if they actually use the money/resources toward this game and not the other's in production (dust and some vampire thing).
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Nikita Alterana
Risen Angels
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Posted - 2011.05.14 05:34:00 -
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I would wardec...but he's already in an NPC corp.
Nikita's Graphic Arts Studio
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Cheekyhoe
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Posted - 2011.05.14 05:55:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bMLrA_0O5I
Very related
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Internet Knight
The Kobayashi Maru
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Posted - 2011.05.14 06:08:00 -
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If you were in my corp, I would take your stuff.
If you were in my alliance, I would take your ship.
If you were anywhere near me and not blue, I would still take your ship.
Even if you're in highsec.
Be glad you're not near me.
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Rafael Freeman
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Posted - 2011.05.14 06:16:00 -
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Read title. Did not read post.
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Kuronaga
Kantian Principle
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Posted - 2011.05.14 06:35:00 -
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Originally by: Gangster101 PureLove $39.99 for an expansion sounds good to me if they actually use the money/resources toward this game and not the other's in production (dust and some vampire thing).
they already have a very large staff working fulltime on eve.
Paying them more isn't going to make them work any harder.
Paying them to hire new people for new projects will just result in more new, unfinished products.
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Shania Fox
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Posted - 2011.05.14 07:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kor Shivat I appreciate the fact CCP has given away new content going many years, now. But there does seem to be a problem satisfying the (many) demands of (many) different game segments. I for one would pay forty bucks for an expansion here, just as I have in other games, on the understanding this gives a developer resources to, well, expand.
You could even take a page from the game's marketing hype, and let cold hard cash decide what to build. Offer pre-orders:
$40 buys you access to dedicated large-fleet combat space with servers switches and packet sniffers galore.
$40 buys you access to dedicated small-fleet combat space where nothing bigger than a cruiser gets in and fleets are of limited size.
$40 buys you access to dedicated mission space where CONCORD has scrambled target locks on non pirate faction ships and disabled smart bombs.
$40 buys you access to dedicated exploration space where the scans are particularly difficult but you are the only one there.
Build what generates the biggest pool of money.
You're one of those people that think you can solve problems by just throwing money at it. More money than sense.
Eve is already the most expensive MMO that I know of, especially if you live in Europe. If they were to start charging for expansions then they should lower the cost of the sub.
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darklegionca
Caldari Dark Deliverance Holdings
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Posted - 2011.05.14 07:22:00 -
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stupid Minmatar you wonder why your slaves dont ever come up with a idea like this ever again we like our free expansions Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist |

Sealiah
Minmatar Coffee Lovers Brewing Club ROMANIAN-LEGION
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Posted - 2011.05.14 07:54:00 -
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There are so many words wanting to come from under my fingers to this idea, but I'll just say...
NO!
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2011.05.14 07:56:00 -
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Originally by: Shania Fox
Originally by: Kor Shivat I appreciate the fact CCP has given away new content going many years, now. But there does seem to be a problem satisfying the (many) demands of (many) different game segments. I for one would pay forty bucks for an expansion here, just as I have in other games, on the understanding this gives a developer resources to, well, expand.
You could even take a page from the game's marketing hype, and let cold hard cash decide what to build. Offer pre-orders:
$40 buys you access to dedicated large-fleet combat space with servers switches and packet sniffers galore.
$40 buys you access to dedicated small-fleet combat space where nothing bigger than a cruiser gets in and fleets are of limited size.
$40 buys you access to dedicated mission space where CONCORD has scrambled target locks on non pirate faction ships and disabled smart bombs.
$40 buys you access to dedicated exploration space where the scans are particularly difficult but you are the only one there.
Build what generates the biggest pool of money.
You're one of those people that think you can solve problems by just throwing money at it. More money than sense.
Eve is already the most expensive MMO that I know of, especially if you live in Europe. If they were to start charging for expansions then they should lower the cost of the sub.
You whine more than the OP, faceless alt. -------------- Fix the game's last broken weapon system - support if you care!
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2011.05.14 08:16:00 -
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Originally by: Kuronaga
Originally by: Kor Shivat
Originally by: Aeronwen Carys Normally I like to at least try and give a full bodied answer, but all I can say is no, hell no, and **** no. The day CCP shard EVE in this way is the day it curls up, kisses its own backside and dies.
So you say. Of course, if the pre-orders demonstrated demand sufficient to warrant the investment, cold hard real world markets would be saying otherwise.
Real world economics have nothing to do with quality gameplay.
Real world economics have nothing to do with quality of anything. Only ****ty things around that breaks all the time.
If fact i would go as far as Real world economics have nothing to do with economy .
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Shania Fox
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Posted - 2011.05.14 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Bumblefck
Originally by: Shania Fox
Originally by: Kor Shivat I appreciate the fact CCP has given away new content going many years, now. But there does seem to be a problem satisfying the (many) demands of (many) different game segments. I for one would pay forty bucks for an expansion here, just as I have in other games, on the understanding this gives a developer resources to, well, expand.
You could even take a page from the game's marketing hype, and let cold hard cash decide what to build. Offer pre-orders:
$40 buys you access to dedicated large-fleet combat space with servers switches and packet sniffers galore.
$40 buys you access to dedicated small-fleet combat space where nothing bigger than a cruiser gets in and fleets are of limited size.
$40 buys you access to dedicated mission space where CONCORD has scrambled target locks on non pirate faction ships and disabled smart bombs.
$40 buys you access to dedicated exploration space where the scans are particularly difficult but you are the only one there.
Build what generates the biggest pool of money.
You're one of those people that think you can solve problems by just throwing money at it. More money than sense.
Eve is already the most expensive MMO that I know of, especially if you live in Europe. If they were to start charging for expansions then they should lower the cost of the sub.
You whine more than the OP, faceless alt.
That's rich coming from you. 
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Wa'roun
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.05.14 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kor Shivat
$40 buys you access to dedicated small-fleet combat space where nothing bigger than a cruiser gets in and fleets are of limited size.
Otherwise known as missions / FW mission sites. Join channel: "Eve University" or read here |

Hello Pretty
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Posted - 2011.05.14 11:13:00 -
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Die in fire OP
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Ticarus Hellbrandt
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Posted - 2011.05.14 11:18:00 -
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Go back to WoW OP
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Rastigan
Caldari Ars ex Discordia Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.05.14 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kor Shivat I appreciate the fact CCP has given away new content going many years, now. But there does seem to be a problem satisfying the (many) demands of (many) different game segments. I for one would pay forty bucks for an expansion here, just as I have in other games, on the understanding this gives a developer resources to, well, expand.
You could even take a page from the game's marketing hype, and let cold hard cash decide what to build. Offer pre-orders:
$40 buys you access to dedicated large-fleet combat space with servers switches and packet sniffers galore.
$40 buys you access to dedicated small-fleet combat space where nothing bigger than a cruiser gets in and fleets are of limited size.
$40 buys you access to dedicated mission space where CONCORD has scrambled target locks on non pirate faction ships and disabled smart bombs.
$40 buys you access to dedicated exploration space where the scans are particularly difficult but you are the only one there.
Build what generates the biggest pool of money.
There are several things that would instantly ruin Eve and it would eventually die off in months, paid expansion is on the top of the list.
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Virtue Maulerant
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Posted - 2011.05.14 11:59:00 -
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Edited by: Virtue Maulerant on 14/05/2011 11:59:34
Originally by: Hello Pretty Die in fire OP
Originally by: Ticarus Hellbrandt Go back to WoW OP
Originally by: Rastigan
There are several things that would instantly ruin Eve and it would eventually die off in months, paid expansion is on the top of the list.
Also, 3/10. Also how about we charge you for top quality exclusive trolling?  
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Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2011.05.14 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kor Shivat I appreciate the fact CCP has given away new content going many years, now. But there does seem to be a problem satisfying the (many) demands of (many) different game segments. I for one would pay forty bucks for an expansion here, just as I have in other games, on the understanding this gives a developer resources to, well, expand.
You could even take a page from the game's marketing hype, and let cold hard cash decide what to build. Offer pre-orders:
$40 buys you access to dedicated large-fleet combat space with servers switches and packet sniffers galore.
$40 buys you access to dedicated small-fleet combat space where nothing bigger than a cruiser gets in and fleets are of limited size.
$40 buys you access to dedicated mission space where CONCORD has scrambled target locks on non pirate faction ships and disabled smart bombs.
$40 buys you access to dedicated exploration space where the scans are particularly difficult but you are the only one there.
Build what generates the biggest pool of money.
The fact you want to kill EVE does not buy you an excuse for your topic. It's a Blizzard way to endorse and promote inequality, differentiate players by their budget and overall kill the game experience for all. -- Thanks CCP for cu |

Khanya Trace
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Posted - 2011.05.14 13:01:00 -
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4/10
trying too hard, but still effective.
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hired goon
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Posted - 2011.05.14 13:10:00 -
[37]
y'all postin' in a troll thread
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2011.05.14 13:19:00 -
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Worst idea ever.
This is the kind of bad idea that encourages people like me to not bother coming back when I take a break.
When Im burned out i ussually keep my sub scription going and skill snipe then in 4 or 5 months I come back and play full time. If I realize I have to drop another $50 or $100 dollars one of these times when I come back Im probably just going to go play something else.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Doc Fury
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Posted - 2011.05.14 13:27:00 -
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CCP already charges for expansions at the rate of $15 USD per month. Less if you are foolish enough to pre-pay for a year.
If CCP were to try to pull off what you are wanting they would have to be capable of delivering polished and completed content on a deadline. Given CCP's track record, and the fact they believe half-finished new features are better for obtaining new subscriptions than polished and completed content, your first desire should be that CCP sell EVE to someone capable of producing paid expansions with completed and fully functional content.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |

HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2011.05.14 14:33:00 -
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Edited by: HeIIfire11 on 14/05/2011 14:34:06
Nope..wouldn't do it. They don't need money,what they need is the desire to invest it in eve instead of WOD or Dust.
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Anddeh McNab
Cadre Assault Force
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Posted - 2011.05.14 14:52:00 -
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So basically, OP wants to take away most of makes EVE unique and turn it into another WoW clone (but in spaaaaaace!) right?
Life in New Eden is unfair, fights even less so, get used to it or turn in your pilot license. There are two sides to the EVE community; those that scream for change and those that scream against it. Often they are the same person. |
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