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Blacksquirrel
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Posted - 2011.05.17 00:49:00 -
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They should really add a ship that can deploy a "space wall".
No exit for yous!
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.05.17 00:53:00 -
[32]
 Originally by: Blacksquirrel
They should really add a ship that can deploy a "space wall".
No exit for yous!
SPACEWALL: Agility; 10 minutes to align.
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aetherguy881
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.17 02:14:00 -
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There's a trickier one that you haven't encountered yet :p
Just wait until you figure it out.
Quit crying, there's ways to decloak them...
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Fuzzy Wuzzi
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2011.05.17 02:32:00 -
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Originally by: Herrring
Are you using T2 cloaks? and the right size MWD? doesn't work with T1 cloaks because the speed penalty is too big.
Ah thx, was using the T1 version.
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Miso Hawnee
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Posted - 2011.05.17 02:42:00 -
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Learn to decloak. Or you could join the big leagues and use bubbles in null sec. All you need to counter this is 1 guy in a dramiel with an IQ over 90. Hell even a nano fit interceptor should work.
LOL thread. CCP I suck at the game please make it easier cause I am really mad!
Also anything over 2400 scanres is overkill, at that point network lag makes it redundant.
Also in regards to Developer ignorance, have you ever met CCP Nozh?
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Mnengli Noiliffe
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Posted - 2011.05.17 06:27:00 -
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Edited by: Mnengli Noiliffe on 17/05/2011 06:28:29
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Ifly Uwalk
Caldari
Concentrated Evil
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Posted - 2011.05.17 06:34:00 -
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Originally by: The Truckdriver
This is about gatecamping, its a suck-ass game mechanic, period.
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Zora'e
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.05.17 06:36:00 -
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Stealth "I suck at being a high-sec gank bear" whine detected.
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Illwill Bill
Talu Shaya
Talu Shaya Empire
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Posted - 2011.05.17 06:46:00 -
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Considering CCP fixed this feature when they accidentally broke it a few years ago, I'd say it's intended.
OP needs to learn how to de-cloak.
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Revenge is a dish best served with auto-cannons.
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Madelia Tigeress
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Posted - 2011.05.17 06:58:00 -
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If it really does only work with Tech 2 Cloaks, that seriously has to limit which ships can actually make use of this no?
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Tejal Charu
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Posted - 2011.05.17 08:18:00 -
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The second OP gets on the other side of a gatecamp and wants out the sensor-boosted interceptors are bugged. |
Masjheira
Minmatar
Cursed Inc.
Not Found.
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Posted - 2011.05.17 09:53:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank
Maybe you should do something other than gatecamp like a fairy.
This.
Try to pvp instead of ganking with no risk.
Noob.
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Sebastian T'Soni
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Posted - 2011.05.17 10:45:00 -
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Gate camper tears! They're the sweetest, juiciest tears of them all! Moar, moar! We NEED more tears! Let us bathe in their warm, moist magnificence!
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.05.17 10:49:00 -
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well I am fed up with those damn normal people too.
they're too... normal.
CCP needs to fix this asap.
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Fuzzy Wuzzi
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2011.05.17 11:17:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Sebastian T'Soni
Gate camper tears! They're the sweetest, juiciest tears of them all! Moar, moar!
They really are, lol. Gate camping = most boring, pathetic, lowest form of pvp.
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Virtue Maulerant
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Posted - 2011.05.17 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: Virtue Maulerant on 17/05/2011 11:21:08
Originally by: Lady Spank
Maybe you should do something other than gatecamp like a fairy.
Exactly. Gate camps are lame as it is.
Also the dreaded...
no
Originally by: Fuzzy Wuzzi
Originally by: Sebastian T'Soni
Gate camper tears! They're the sweetest, juiciest tears of them all! Moar, moar!
They really are, lol. Gate camping = most boring, pathetic, lowest form of pvp.
 camp ****s
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Fer DeLance
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Posted - 2011.05.17 11:40:00 -
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I hardly ever go into 0.0 space, and forgive me if i am wrong to this, but isn't this wrong?
"- allign to next gate, hit the microwarpdrive, immediately hit the cloak"
As far as i know, this is not the way to do it. Actually, if you first hit the MWD you make your signature radious huge, thus making it easier for others to lock you, so by the time you hit Cloak you may already be locked.
The right way to do it, is FIRST hit cloak, then quickly hit MWD. I know it sounds strange, but it works. It produces that well known visual effect, that you see your target, try to lock it, try try try, nothing happens, and then the target just cloaks although you seemed to have more than enough time to lock it.
Not to mention that there are keyboards like the logitec g19, if i remember correctly, that can be programmed to move mouse cursor, allowing for a construction of a macro that quicky Aligns-Cloaks-MWDs with the hit of on macro-key.
I don't know if it is a bug, an exploit or anything else, (i don't use it anyway), but i think it should be fixed. Gives a huge advantage, especially to those that have programmable keyboards that can be programmed to move the mouse cursor.
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Damien McCandless
Caldari
Baden's Army
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Posted - 2011.05.17 11:53:00 -
[48]
Originally by: The Truckdriver
Edited by: The Truckdriver on 16/05/2011 23:04:58
is you normal? No ofcourse not
This is BUGYEARS
When a interceptor remote boosted to 7000 scan resolation you know something is wrong.
CCP tried to spring in to the dev of the round table.
I
am so tired.
I dont see why you think this is a bad thing
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Eyup Mi'duck
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Posted - 2011.05.17 11:55:00 -
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So what are you proposing - that every ship in the game can be easily ganked at a gate?
Surely, that would then need a fix. Something like the ability to fit cloaks and mwd's, for example.
Oh wait...
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2011.05.17 11:59:00 -
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@ OP
crai more noob
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Kale Kold
Mindless Griefing
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Posted - 2011.05.17 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: The Truckdriver
Edited by: The Truckdriver on 16/05/2011 23:04:58
This is a guide to safetravel in empire. All you need is a cloak and microwarpdrive on your ship, works on any ship including battleships.
How it works?
- jump through a gate
- allign to next gate, hit the microwarpdrive, immediately hit the cloak
- wait t'ill mwd cycle ends
- uncloak and click warp to
After this their is nothing to stop your ship, even if flying a battleship.
WAIT a minite... Is this normal? No ofcourse not
This is a BUG left in the game unattented for YEARS
When a battleship gets by a interceptor remote boosted to 7000 scan resolation without a chance to even lock it, you know something is wrong.
CCP tried to fix this in spring 2009, ending in the hilarious insta warping motherships. Since then they left this unfixed.
When I explained this to the dev of the round table on low sec space at the fanfest, they didnt even know this was in their game.
I am so tired of this I demand a fix from CCP, will keep this thread boosted untill it gets fixed.
I totally agree this is a bug, plain and simple. I tried to highlight this years ago but the noise from carebears drowned it out.
No battleship should be able to instawarp from a gang of 10 pirates, as has happened to me before. I've lost count of the ships we've lost due to this bug.
This is what has broken piracy!
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2011.05.17 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: Herrring
so warp core stabbed ships don't exist right?
MWD + Cloak - decloak him
Stabs (cloak or no cloak) - bring more points
There is always counters. Just because people don't bring the counters, it doesn't mean the mechanic is broken. Annoying to **** perhaps, but there IS still counters available.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.05.17 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Kale Kold
I totally agree this is a bug, plain and simple.
The devs disagree. After all, when at one point this trick didn't work, that was given a bug fix to ensure that the functionality was restored.
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No battleship should be able to instawarp from a gang of 10 pirates, as has happened to me before
Yeah, seeà they don't really instawarp.
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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Lady Go Diveher
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Posted - 2011.05.17 13:23:00 -
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Dear OP:
Firstly, your procedure, as posted, is fail.
Secondly, your inability to counter it, is fail.
Thirdly, your desire to gatecamp, is fail.
HINT: you see a battleship decloak/cloak in space. Where, exactly, do you think it's going in a hurry?
You are aware, right, that there is a 2000m decloak bubble around the battleship.
You are aware, right, that interceptors are pretty damn fast, and are, at most, 15km away?
Gosh darnit ... if only there was something in all that, which could come together to guarantee you decloaked and locked that ship every time.
New ITT: gatecamping is too easy, make cloaks impervious to interceptors approaching
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2011.05.17 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 17/05/2011 13:37:56
Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: The Truckdriver
This is not about gatecamping, its a broken game mechanic, period.
Feel free to highlight how this is an issue outside of camping.
Pursuing a target over 20 jumps as he cloak mwds?
SKUNK
I respect this concern, however surely you are faster than him in aligning & warping and assuming you match his route fine, you should have at least 19 clear opportunities to approach, mwd, proximity decloak him before he gets a chance to warp again.
What gate is he going to? hes cloaked untill half a second before he warps. So which one should I align to. Ohj.. hes in warp and im now just starting to align. Thats three seconds lost.
Not to mention, if im zooming towards his last known location and dont uncloak him im now heading at 6000 m/s in the wrong direction and hes already half way across system in warp. Thats six seconds lost. HEs in the next system whilst your still coming out of warp. Which gate is he aligning to in the next sytem... jump jhump jump jump.
Whats to say hes even in a slow aligning ship. Im in a dominix, hes in a cloak mwd dominix. BS vs BS.. fair fight. No massive gang ganking him... wheeee watch him disapear as he roams around low sec at will.
People go on about fast locks and uber intys, but back when I could be bothered to care about the game, to prove the point I rolled my alt through the best low sec camps in the game (and 60 man faction warfare frigate fleets to boot) using a mega and a cloak mwd, never was caught.
An intended 2 slot module which makes one near invulnerable in low sec and provides cloaking and mwd capabilitys, in exchange for some small loss in locking time would never be implemented into the game. Anyone suggesting it would be laughed at.
But because its a unintended side effect of the cloak mwd, its alright then.. is it?
Anyway, to the OP I wouldnt waste your time getting het up its not worth it.
SKUNK
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Lady Go Diveher
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Posted - 2011.05.17 13:45:00 -
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Skunk ...
The MWD cloaktrick is fit onto ships who wish to avoid combat. The locktime on a battleship is so miserable its near useless .. and on many you're removing a highslot from an essential utility mod or weapon.
Basically, in your theoretical example, you're moaning that you can't use the worst ship possible, to catch a gimped ship that doesn't actually want to fight. +1 balls to you.
I don't know when and where you "sailed through lowsec impervious to the best gatecamps" but you're talking out of your ****ing ass.
If you want to come see if you can get past my 12km/s Dramiel, throw me an evemail
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2011.05.17 14:13:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 17/05/2011 14:17:15
Edited by: Le Skunk on 17/05/2011 14:15:03
Originally by: Lady Go Diveher
Skunk ...
1) The MWD cloaktrick is fit onto ships who wish to avoid combat. The locktime on a battleship is so miserable its near useless .. and on many you're removing a highslot from an essential utility mod or weapon.
Basically, in your theoretical example, you're moaning that you can't use the worst ship possible, to catch a gimped ship that doesn't actually want to fight. +1 balls to you.
1) Scan res drop on a cloak is 40%. Scan res increase on a t2 sensor booster is 60%. Fitting costs are negligable. The penalty for being able to whip past 99% of lowsec camps is.... a tiny drop in scan res :)
My point was that people say the cloak mwd is used for escaping the bully boy 10 man gang who want to gank you 10v1 when its equaly often used to avoid a 1v1.
People complain YOU USE TEN SHIPS TO GANK MY ONE without thinking WHY there are 10 ships on the gate.
* You need something with a quick point or else the target warps away.
* You need quick effective webs and a scram, or else the target gates back to gate.
* You need long range webs in case the target burns away from the gate and escapes.
* You need falcon support to stand a chance if hotdroped by 40 moms. (to get away that is)
* You need multiple BS for DPS and to tanke the unkillable, massive range, perfect tracking sentry guns.
* You need a couple of Smartbomb bs, to stand a chance of catching the stupider frigates.
* You need a gang booster to push tackle ranges up / pimp faction mods.
So youve got 400 million Skill points on the gate. 4 Bill in ships and fittings. 10 pilots all working in co-ordination (with associated logistical legwork). All to catch a 3 mill sp char in a 50 mill ship who drops 10 mill isk in loot. Lose on of your ships, and you need to kill 50 targets just to break even.
The irony is, the same people who claim cloak mwd is the only way to combat the bully boy gankers with the 10 man gang.... are the same ones advocating making that 10 man gang a 13 man gang by including a few intys to decloak the cloak mwders
Then of course, they will scream THIRTEEN vs 1 - YOU GANKERS ARE PATHETIC. ONE v ONE ME AND I WOULD KILL YOU.
Anyway, cloak mwd didnt kill piracy. Jump freighters, cov ops haulers, and jump portals killed piracy (as a profession that is)
SKUNK
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Damien McCandless
Caldari
Baden's Army
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Posted - 2011.05.17 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk
What is he going to cloak untill three seconds lost.
Not to mention im now 6 m irection.
HEs in the BS.. fair fight. No massive People.
I could be bothered to care about the game, to prove the point. I rolled my alt in w o w, never was caught.
An 2 sl ut, in exchange for some small loss in imps would be laughed at.
its a side effect of the loam, its alright then.. is it?
Anyway its worth it.
SKUNK
I totally agree
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2011.05.17 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Damien McCandless
... to prove the point. I rolled my alt in w o w, never was caught....
LOL
Skunk
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Damien McCandless
Caldari
Baden's Army
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Posted - 2011.05.17 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Le Skunk
The penal.... a tiny drop
YOU USE ONE without thinking.
* You need something
* You need webs and a cam
* You need long range webs in case the target burns if hotdroped by 40 moms. (to get away that is)
* You need massive guns.
* You need a couple of stupider pimp factions.
So youve got 400 million pilots all working in co-ordination just to break even.
unconsensual nerfed and nerfed and nerfed by A PIRATE on the box those many years ago) pirates have had to work harder and harder and harder to sc**** a sneaky churning carbear.
boy with the 10 man gang....
Then of course, I WOULD KILL YOU.
Anyway, kill piracy. haulers kill piracy
SKUNK
Why does your toon look like Barbie's Ken dressed up as a **** star?
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