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Sebastiann Kane
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Posted - 2011.05.17 03:30:00 -
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Im currently in a one man corp as im taking a break from my main alliance.
i run Level 4 missions in a completely tricked out (Non Officer) Max SP Nightmare and i can make about 100 million every 3 hours in bounties alone. I normally Wardec corps of 5-10 players for a week when i want something different or longer if they are well organised and a hard fight.
I also build cap ships for the Jita market
Question. What can nullsec give me that i cant get in highsec.
Im making a fortune in highsec with no risk and i mean no risk. I can use the best ships and never worry about a gate bubble. I really like being out numbered when i fight as it allows me to ninja kill and wear down enemies and use local terrian and knowledge to my advantage. Going through a gatecamp into a bubble hold no interest for me neither does blob warfare as there is no skill in it. My thanks for your valuable answers
So apart from leaving my super ship behind and using a lesser ship what else is there apart from a different experience,
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Corina's Bodyguard
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Posted - 2011.05.17 03:54:00 -
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You get to face 1000+ alliances in your 1 man corp.
Ok, thats probably a bad idea, but if you manage to forcibly take sov from someone in null, I will give you all my... um... noobships.
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Bane Necran
Furtim Vigilans
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Posted - 2011.05.17 03:54:00 -
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Edited by: Bane Necran on 17/05/2011 03:56:11
 Originally by: Sebastiann Kane
i run Level 4 missions in a completely tricked out (Non Officer) Max SP Nightmare and i can make about 100 million every 3 hours in bounties alone.
No, you don't.
You have no standings with any corp or faction, and your sec status is an even 0.0.
I'm thinking the only true part of your story is selling cap ships on the Jita market. Your main is probably in a 0.0 alliance, and you're mad about JBs being changed or just raging about hisec in general and spreading disinfo.
Oh, and in before "i mean on another sekret character".
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Herrring
Amarr
National Quality Breaker
Vicious OuTLaW
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Posted - 2011.05.17 03:57:00 -
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Originally by: Bane Necran
Originally by: Sebastiann Kane
i run Level 4 missions in a completely tricked out (Non Officer) Max SP Nightmare and i can make about 100 million every 3 hours in bounties alone.
No, you don't.
You have no standings with any corp or faction, and your sec status is an even 0.0.
I'm thinking the only true part of your story is selling cap ships on the Jita market. Your main is probably in a 0.0 alliance, and you're mad about JBs being changed or just raging about hisec in general and exagerating things
Good day, sir.
Many players have at least 2 characters.
I only have cynoship kills and noob ship kills on this character, that doesn't mean I don't pvp.
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Bane Necran
Furtim Vigilans
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Posted - 2011.05.17 04:06:00 -
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There is no way in hell anyone makes 100mil in 3 hours on bounty alone doing L4. That's what first made me suspicious enough to look up the character in game.
The entire thing sounds more like the ridiculous fantasies people in 0.0 have about hisec than what it's actually like.
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Ron Bacardi
SniggWaffe
FREE KARTTOON NOW
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Posted - 2011.05.17 05:40:00 -
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If that's what you find fun, holy ****, get help.
If making ISK is your only goal in this game, I feel really sorry for you.
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D'Leh Mannuck
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Posted - 2011.05.17 06:00:00 -
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Originally by: Bane Necran
There is no way in hell anyone makes 100mil in 3 hours on bounty alone doing L4.
The fact you can't make a measely 33,3 mill per hour on lvl 4's doesn't mean nobody can.
100m per 3 hours is 33,3 mill per hour, easy done with lvl 4's.
I almost feel inclined to write a step by step for you and sell it so you too can belong to those who actually know how to play.
Hmmm, on second thought I say "nah" leaving you in your ignorance might prove a bigger bliss for you.
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D'Leh Mannuck
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Posted - 2011.05.17 06:01:00 -
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And yes, this is an alt too, since you used one to start this topic I will use one to reply.
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Bane Necran
Furtim Vigilans
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Posted - 2011.05.17 06:25:00 -
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Originally by: D'Leh Mannuck
The fact you can't make a measely 33,3 mill per hour on lvl 4's doesn't mean nobody can.
100m per 3 hours is 33,3 mill per hour, easy done with lvl 4's.
I almost feel inclined to write a step by step for you and sell it so you too can belong to those who actually know how to play.
Hmmm, on second thought I say "nah" leaving you in your ignorance might prove a bigger bliss for you.
Should check out my standings sometime. I know a thing or two about L4s. And i do them damned fast in a Machariel with Level 5 Min and Gal Battleship, plus T2 ACs. Surely faster than any Nightmare could.
Sick to death of doing them, so i'm watching the changes to 0.0 closely. The isk has always been better there, but the place is boring as hell. I hope CCP is just beginning to shake things up there.
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WisdomPanda
Gallente
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.05.17 06:42:00 -
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Originally by: Sebastiann Kane
What can nullsec give me that i cant get in highsec.
CCP corpses.
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D'Leh Mannuck
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Posted - 2011.05.17 07:07:00 -
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Originally by: Bane Necran
Should check out my standings sometime. I know a thing or two about L4s. And i do them damned fast in a Machariel with Level 5 Min and Gal Battleship, plus T2 ACs. Surely faster than any Nightmare could.
Sick to death of doing them, so i'm watching the changes to 0.0 closely. The isk has always been better there, but the place is boring as hell. I hope CCP is just beginning to shake things up there.
Standings don't say crap about knowing a thing or 2 about L4s.
Any ****** with too much time can get high standings. That doesn't mean they are geniusses. Just that they are no life basement dwellers.
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Anddeh McNab
Cadre Assault Force
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Posted - 2011.05.17 07:59:00 -
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Originally by: Sebastiann Kane
Question. What can nullsec give me that i cant get in highsec.
Im making a fortune in highsec with no risk and i mean no risk. I can use the best ships and never worry about a gate bubble. I really like being out numbered when i fight as it allows me to ninja kill and wear down enemies and use local terrian and knowledge to my advantage. Going through a gatecamp into a bubble hold no interest for me neither does blob warfare as there is no skill in it. My thanks for your valuable answers
So apart from leaving my super ship behind and using a lesser ship what else is there apart from a different experience,
A few points:
1) There's more to EVE than making money
2) Expensive =/= best ship
People are free to play the game for their own reasons but let me address each point with some examples.
1) I understand that making ISK is very central to the game; for some it can be the very reason they log on, such as those that fund their game time with PLEX. Personally I log in to be sociable. There are X number of EVE players (don't know the number of subs off the top of my head), some of them don't speak your language, some are spies, some are a**eholes and some are decent people. I live out in the butt end of NPC 0.0 in some god forsaken pipe system with russians on both sides, there are few belts and even less anoms. In short, making money is a pain. I haven't packed up and headed back to high-sec (apart from the occasional pit-stop to pick up moar ships and top up the wallet) because there's still alot of fun to be had, primarily through interaction with my corp. Which leads me onto...
2) You don't need a "super" ship to compete in PvP at all. Last night our corp run a rifter roam, T1 fitted with enough ammo for a single reload, in total they cost about 500k ISK each. We found a cynabal to pick on and would have killed him had a stiletto and sabre not landed to decimate our little frigate gang. We all died horribly, gave them a "gf" in local and headed home in high spirits. Sure we lost but it was still fun and our ships cost less than their ammo used to kill us (maybe).
TL;DR - What can you get in null-sec that you can't in high-sec? Nothing, it's your location that's the issue, it's your mindset. This is an MMO sandbox, if you want fun you just need to go look for it. If fun for you is lurking in high-sec in your NM then so be it.
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Sebastiann Kane
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Posted - 2011.05.17 14:13:00 -
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This is an Alt people. I hardly ever post on my main on forums when at all.
Next up the nightmare is the best mission boat in the game (ok Golum/tengu accepted). The mach is great but its damage is all in the falloff. I can use multis out to 50K with another 50K falloff. plus lots of excellent hits die to tracking bonuses. You ETF warriors dont seem to understand that.
Next up 100 million over 3 hours is easy for the better mission runners. Plus i do only certain agents that give me access to stuff that sells for well over 1p=1000 credits. I gain Isk so that i can pvp in the ships that i like.
Anddeh McNab Thanks for the reply mate and it was just what i was hoping to hear. A different perspective and nothing more. i Normally fly smaller ships in solo PvP just so i can have a chance at escaping if im blobbed. Ive been to null sec quite a few times but only to a certain area and never really engaged in any large battles as ive heard that the lag is not great.
Thanks again
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Shawna Gray
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.17 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sebastiann Kane
Question. What can nullsec give me that i cant get in highsec.
Fleet fights and roams. If you are looking for a place just to earn isk you might as well stay in highsec as its not worth it for the average grunt.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2011.05.17 14:50:00 -
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Edited by: Ghoest on 17/05/2011 14:50:44
Originally by: Ron Bacardi
If making ISK is your only goal in this game, I feel really sorry for you.
Truely?
What does that mean anyway?
When you get up and walk away from your PC are you think "That poor poor fellow who just wants to make isk."?
Are you literally saddened?
I have a hard time believing that this dudes gaming priorities have elicited to a profound emotional response from you.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Nick Bete
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.05.17 14:59:00 -
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Please don't feed the troll. |
Millie Clode
Amarr
Insert Cool Name Here
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Posted - 2011.05.17 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sebastiann Kane
I also build cap ships for the Jita market
So why wont you fill my revelation buy order in jita 4-4? Its been there for months and no one has filled it.
It's almost like no one wants to trade with me :(
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Drykor
Minmatar
Aperture Harmonics
K162
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Posted - 2011.05.17 15:30:00 -
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If this was a troll post, he'd have mentioned making 75M an hour doing incursions. And yeah this is actually possible and not even hard in a properly organized gang, but you'll make at least 50M even in a rag-tag randomly slapped together fleet (with decent fits individually but no synergy between ships)
For fun, 0.0 (or w-space or low-sec) will definitely beat highsec, but for income you really don't have to bother anymore.
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.05.17 15:58:00 -
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Even assuming what you claim is true, you post on an alt and are afraid of bubbles. You are too much of a coward to do anything of significance in 0.0.
GTFO
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Ira Theos
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Posted - 2011.05.17 16:17:00 -
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The question of what nullsec offers is totally dependent upon several things...
1) Who you know in nullsec. More specifically who your "sponsor" is that is in political control of the moongoo isk that they will arbitrarily throw your way to fund your combat expense. If you are not connected, then you fall into the drone section.
2) How useful your "skills" and SP levels are, specifically with regard to your ability to fly certain desirable or needed fleet ships. If you don't have these yet, then you fall into the drone section.
3) How "available" you are for online ops on a moments notice. If you can't be available, then you fall into the drone section.
If you meet the above requirements, then zero can be an interesting place because you will get to participate in interesting events. If not, then you will experience the drone section routine which consists of scrounging for the isk to pay your monthly "rent" to the group of pilots that do meet the above requirements.
This is why most players of this game do not participate in zero space.
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Sergeant Spot
Galactic Geographic BookMark Surveying Inc.
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Posted - 2011.05.17 16:42:00 -
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0.0 is, by deliberate design, an area of warring Player Controlled empires.
Factor that into any plans you have for 0.0.
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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NinjaSpud
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Posted - 2011.05.17 16:53:00 -
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Join the NC
get your feet wet while being protected by one of the largest alliances in the game.
BTW, i have a feeling this nerf to jump bridges will kill NC...just saying
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Captain J Planet
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Posted - 2011.05.17 17:13:00 -
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It takes a bit of experience to make it solo in nullsec and a lot of sp and some alts makes it all the better. I used to live a bit in providence and stain. I flew stealth bombers a lot, brough goods in and out with transport ships and eventually used black ops to get things around when gates were hectic.
I never made a load of isk or became notorious, in-fact maintaining a low profile is the best sort of safety you can have. Once you're name is on notify for a local entity then you're going to be chased out of town in short order, and given the sparse number of stations worth using in npc space you desperately need to have as many ports of call as you can get.
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Hailey Sonata
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.05.17 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: WisdomPanda
Originally by: Sebastiann Kane
What can nullsec give me that i cant get in highsec.
CCP corpses.
LOLIRL
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Jack BingKaria
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Posted - 2011.05.17 20:36:00 -
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There is ALWAYS risk in high sec as well.
But....
If you dont fly mission ships, that cost billions, you are ok...
If you dont get the bad luck to be the victim of suicide gankers, that just do it for the fun, you are ok...
And there is a few more of those things.
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Gimpb
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
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Posted - 2011.05.17 21:44:00 -
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Although the active income sources aren't much different, null has higher passive income sources (PI and moons, specifically). It depends on the structure of the organization but one way or another the moon goo typically ends up funding pvp which means less farming and more pew. However, there can be quite a bit of not-so-fun "pvp" involved.
That's pretty much it
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Grath Telkin
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.05.17 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Sebastiann Kane
I also build cap ships for the Jita market
You guys are bad
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Rafael Freeman
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Posted - 2011.05.17 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Grath Telkin
Originally by: Sebastiann Kane
I also build cap ships for the Jita market
You guys are bad
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Hermann Fegelein
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.17 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Bane Necran
Edited by: Bane Necran on 17/05/2011 03:56:11
Originally by: Sebastiann Kane
i run Level 4 missions in a completely tricked out (Non Officer) Max SP Nightmare and i can make about 100 million every 3 hours in bounties alone.
No, you don't.
You have no standings with any corp or faction, and your sec status is an even 0.0.
I'm thinking the only true part of your story is selling cap ships on the Jita market. Your main is probably in a 0.0 alliance, and you're mad about JBs being changed or just raging about hisec in general and spreading disinfo.
Oh, and in before "i mean on another sekret character".
Dude... a lot of people have forum characters so they can talk about whatever they want without revealing the character they actually play on.
This is a forum character. Don't be so ridiculous.
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Valhasi Ju'ma'ha
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Posted - 2011.05.17 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: Millie Clode
Originally by: Sebastiann Kane
I also build cap ships for the Jita market
So why wont you fill my revelation buy order in jita 4-4? Its been there for months and no one has filled it.
It's almost like no one wants to trade with me :(
Mmmm ... from M Clode
WTB Rev fully fitted - 1.34 thousand ISK.
Good try
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