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Dr Screamm Gallente	Posted - 2011.05.20 22:36:00 - [1] First of all ...hello to everybody, i found a thread on google regarding supersss and the desire of some pilots to get CCP to change or better nerf, reduce, destroy, penalize super capitals, as in the opinion of those pilots SUPER CARRIERS are JUST too POWERFUL!!! Well the thread was locked so i decided to pick it up here to see what the turn out of opinions would be.... the desire to add something of mine was strong enough to lay my thoughts down. Super-Carriers as CCP panel put it at FANFEST 2011 are simply SUPER...therefor SUPERIOR...in every way, even in costs....HUGELY.... and have the ability of a ship that is far FAR superior to the vast majority of ships in the game. Please I REPEAT...do remember that super caps are very very expensive, and the modules combined...faction...officer modules, in addition to hull, may cost EVEN more than the ship itself. As someone mentioned in other threads on mother-ships, when you are flying a spaceship that is worth BILLIONS and BILLIONS of isks, you want to make sure you have some serious fire power in your hands and SUPER EHP's of TANK to make it out. Also consider the skills and time required to train and fly a super cap in a proper maxed out way is extremely time consuming. Forcing an entire fleet to work together to take down a super cap, is a positive aspect of in-game mechanics, that allows for huge fleets of pilots to work together and enjoy the game ( TEAM WORK ). At the same time, it offers the super cap pilot a challange to see how far he can push it in facing an armada and make it out alive ( his skills combined to his ability to pilot the ship, fittings, implants and more ) pure strategy....EVE AT ITS BEST. In my opinion the balance of the super caps and other ships is PERFECT just the way it is, the pure awsome power of the super caps is matched by the costs and risks the pilot who flies the ship has if things go wrong or if he doesn't plan his strategy with all the available variants. Nerf the supers and you will be removing a beautiful super ship that is a pleasure to see on the field and an incredible experience to use on the battlefield AND A GOAL that many MANY pilots in EVE aim for...BECOMING A SUPER CARRIER PILOT!!! a great sadisfaction TRUST ME. And please remember.....many many pilots attack supers and titans with words and ideas to get them nerfed by CCP simply because they cannot afford them or have no intention to put in the months of hard work required to either build them or to mine and obtain the resources to construct those ships or get the iskies neccessary via long hours of mining to pay for one. Merit to those who do or can ( even to those who use PLEX money....its THEIR CHOICE, and good for CCP who cashes in a lot more REAL MONEY...allowing them to invest it in further development on EVE ) please remember.....meritocracy is essential even in the EVE UNIVERSE. Thank you to all. PS: THANK YOU CCP for giving us such an AWSOME, BEAUTIFUL and INCREDIBLY pleasant category of ships to fly, i am sure i speak for all SUPER CAP PILOTS.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.05.20 22:37:00 - [2] àhere too. Also, crossposting is bad for you. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Violine Ming Gallente Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2011.05.20 22:39:00 - [3] Eyes...bleeding.... Holy wall of text Batman!
Alara IonStorm	Posted - 2011.05.20 22:41:00 - [4] Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 20/05/2011 22:41:47 Originally by: CCP Greycale InnerDrive Supercaps? >> Yeah, supercarriers in particular just flat-out need a nerf, I think this is obvious to everyone. We'll give plenty of warning, but don't be surprised when it happens Above from Devs answer your every question - Answer thread. So yeah they are probably gonna get nerfed. Cross posting is bad, but cross posting Walls of Text should get you the Death Penelty.
Spurty Caldari V0LTA VOLTA Corp	Posted - 2011.05.20 22:49:00 - [5] Is it out if your system now ? Good. So the counter to blobs of subcaps = bombs. Bombs launched by sluggish bricks with frigate hulls (smallest hull you can get guns on) that die usually faster than their bombs lives. The counter to blobs of super caps = a bigger blob of super caps. EVE isn't that simple of a game where a solution to a problem is 'more'. The peasants revolt at such lameness and lack of content . Solutions? Invent destroyer sized capital bomb launching over the top resists (so only a capital shooting it can kill it before the bomb delivers it's payload) ships or remove some of the ****ed hitpoints these things have. Which one has less chance of being misused? The destroyer hull with 99% resists so it can do the job or just rollback some of that ****ed hitpoint buff they were given? Either way, capital sized ships need a far cleverererer counter than just a bigger blob. Fizzt!
Medarr Amarr Vengance Inc. Wayfarer Stellar Initiative	Posted - 2011.05.20 23:02:00 - [6] TL;DR eyes were bleeding...
Misha M'Liena Amarr 21st Eridani Lighthorse	Posted - 2011.05.20 23:07:00 - [7] TL;DR eyes were bleeding... Awwww Let me wipe the blood, My darling beloved Medarr. <3
ZenSun Total Mayhem. Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2011.05.20 23:11:00 - [8] Edited by: ZenSun on 20/05/2011 23:12:16
Xtreem Gallente Fire Mandrill	Posted - 2011.05.20 23:12:00 - [9] just give dreads a new module, like the seige mod, lasts 20 mins, lowers tracking to the point is can only hit a super cap 1. supercap blobs have something to worry about 2. makes dreads usable again
Alara IonStorm	Posted - 2011.05.20 23:18:00 - [10] Originally by: Xtreem just give dreads a new module, like the seige mod, lasts 20 mins, lowers tracking to the point is can only hit a super cap So now there tracking is lower and they are sitting ducks for twice as long. Originally by: Xtreem 1. supercap blobs have something to worry about To many Dread Mails cloging the server? Originally by: Xtreem 2. makes dreads usable again To be fair Cannon Fodder is a use. I am gonna go out on a limb and guess there was supposed to be some sort of Firepower increase in the above idea...

Copine Callmeknau Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams The KWFL Republic	Posted - 2011.05.20 23:21:00 - [11] I hear they've got this new thing called an 'enter' key. No supercaps are not expensive Yes they are OP ...oh wait Stunning EVE Online Theme for PS3
Solomon XI Hidden Souls	Posted - 2011.05.21 00:37:00 - [12] Say what now, Dr Screamm? I didn't read your post. It isn't formatted near properly and I can't be bothered to strain my eyes. 5 Sentences Per Paragraph. Try it.
Shira Elan	Posted - 2011.05.21 00:42:00 - [13] Originally by: Tippia àhere too. Also, crossposting is bad for you. You're gonna need a lot more than a few enters to clean up this steaming POS of an OP.
Obsidian Hawk RONA Legion RONA Directorate	Posted - 2011.05.21 00:43:00 - [14] In case op is using a mac.
S'qarpium D'igil	Posted - 2011.05.21 00:44:00 - [15] tl;dr Still, there was a wall of text so I assume a successful troll. 08/10
AlleyKat Gallente The Unwanted.	Posted - 2011.05.21 01:02:00 - [16]
Amber Accelerando	Posted - 2011.05.21 01:15:00 - [17] Originally by: Violine Ming Eyes...bleeding.... Holy wall of text Batman! ^^ Sheee iiiiit man <enter> button is your friend, use it- I couldn't even start on that mess.
Rollava Pollkin Minmatar	Posted - 2011.05.21 04:15:00 - [18] Quote: First of all ...hello to everybody. I found a thread on google regarding supersss and the desire of some pilots to get CCP to change or better nerf, reduce, destroy, penalize super capitals. In the opinion of those pilots SUPER CARRIERS are JUST too POWERFUL!!! Well the thread was locked so i decided to pick it up here to see what the turn out of opinions would be. The desire to add something of mine was strong enough to lay my thoughts down; Super-Carriers as CCP panel put it at FANFEST 2011 are simply SUPER...therefor SUPERIOR...in every way, even in costs....HUGELY.... and have the ability of a ship that is far FAR superior to the vast majority of ships in the game. Please I REPEAT...do remember that super caps are very very expensive, and the modules combined...faction...officer modules, in addition to hull, may cost EVEN more than the ship itself. As someone mentioned in other threads on mother-ships, when you are flying a spaceship that is worth BILLIONS and BILLIONS of isks, you want to make sure you have some serious fire power in your hands and SUPER EHP's of TANK to make it out. Also consider the skills and time required to train and fly a super cap in a proper maxed out way is extremely time consuming. Forcing an entire fleet to work together to take down a super cap, is a positive aspect of in-game mechanics, that allows for huge fleets of pilots to work together and enjoy the game ( TEAM WORK ). At the same time, it offers the super cap pilot a challange to see how far he can push it in facing an armada and make it out alive ( his skills combined to his ability to pilot the ship, fittings, implants and more ) pure strategy....EVE AT ITS BEST. In my opinion the balance of the super caps and other ships is PERFECT just the way it is, the pure awsome power of the super caps is matched by the costs and risks the pilot who flies the ship has if things go wrong or if he doesn't plan his strategy with all the available variants. Nerf the supers and you will be removing a beautiful super ship that is a pleasure to see on the field and an incredible experience to use on the battlefield AND A GOAL that many MANY pilots in EVE aim for...BECOMING A SUPER CARRIER PILOT!!! a great sadisfaction TRUST ME. Please remember.....many many pilots attack supers and titans with words and ideas to get them nerfed by CCP simply because they cannot afford them or have no intention to put in the months of hard work required to either build them or to mine and obtain the resources to construct those ships or get the iskies neccessary via long hours of mining to pay for one. Merit to those who do or can ( even to those who use PLEX money....its THEIR CHOICE, and good for CCP who cashes in a lot more REAL MONEY...allowing them to invest it in further development on EVE ) please remember.....meritocracy is essential even in the EVE UNIVERSE. Thank you to all. PS: THANK YOU CCP for giving us such an AWSOME, BEAUTIFUL and INCREDIBLY pleasant category of ships to fly, i am sure i speak for all SUPER CAP PILOTS. This should cause less eyestrain. I could do nothing for the lack of argument though. If there are arguments in favour of changing Sup Caps refute those arguments. I did also check to see if the all caps were some sort of code. Alas they were not. Whew! That was close!" yelled the captain." That runway was short!" "Yeah!" said the copilot, and wide too!
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.05.21 04:32:00 - [19] Edited by: Tres Farmer on 21/05/2011 04:35:11 Originally by: Dr Screamm wwwaaahhwwwaaahhh WAAHHAA waaahahhhaa waahah waaah WAAH WAAAAH waaah waaha wwaaahe ww aah WAAAHh WAAHHAwwwaaahhh, WAAHHAA waawwwaaahhh WAAHHAA waaahahhhaa waahah waaah WAAH WAAAAH. waaah waaha wwaaahe wwaah WAAAHahahhhaa waahah waaah WAAH WAAAAH!! waaah waaha wwaaahe wwah.... WAAAHA wwwaaahhh WAAHHAA waaahahhhaa waahah waaah WAAH WAAAAH waaah waaha wwaaahe wwaah WAAAHwaaahahhhaa, waahah wwwaaahhh WAAHHAA. waaahahhhaa waahah waaah WAAH WAAAAH waaah waaha wwaaahe........ ww aah WAAAHwaaah WAAH WAAAAH waaah waaha wwaaahewwwaaahhh WAAHHAA aaahahhhaa waahah waaah, WAAH WAAAAH waaah waaha wwaaahe ww aah AAAHwwwaaahhh WAAHHAA waaahahhhaa waahah waaah WAAH WAAAAH waaah waaha wwaaahewwwaaahhh WAAHHAA waaahahhhaa. waahah waaah WAAH WAAAAH waaah waaha wwaaahe waahah waaah WAAH WAAAAH waaah waaha wwaaaheww aah WAAAHahahhhaa waahah. waaah WAAH WAAAAH waaah waaha wwaaahe ww aah WAAAHA wwwaaahhh, WAAHHAA waaahahhhaa waahah waaah WAAH WAAAAH... waaah waaha wwaaahe wwaah WAAAHwaaahahhhaa waahah wwwaaahhh WAAHHAA!! waaahahhhaa waahah waaah WAAH WAAAAH waaah waaha wwaaahe ww aah. WAAAHwaaah WAAH WAAAAH waaah waaha wwaaahewwwaaahhh WAAHHAA aaahahhhaa waahah waaah WAAH WAAAAH waaah waaha wwaaahe ww aah AAAHwwwaaahhh WAAHHAA waahah waaah WAAH WAAAAH waaah waaha wwaaaheww aah WAAAHahahhhaa waahah waaah WAAH WAAAAH waaah waaha wwaaahe ww aah WAAAHA wwwaaahhh WAAHHAA waaahahhhaa, waahah waaah WAAH WAAAAH waaah waaha wwaaahe waahah waaah WAAH WAAAAH waaah waaha.... wwaaaheww aah WAAAHahahhhaa waahah waaah WAAH. WAAAAH waaah waaha wwaaahe ww aah WAAAHA wwwaaahhh WAAHHAA waaahahhhaa waahah waaah WAAH WAAAAH waaah waaha wwaaaheww aah AAHwaaahahhhaa waahah, wwwaaahhh WAAHHAA waaahahhhaa waahah. waaah WAAH WAAAAH waaah waaha wwaaahe ww aah WAAAHwaaah! WAAH WAAAAH waaah waaha wwaaahewwwaaahhh WAAHHAA aaahahhhaa waahah waaah WAAH.. WAAAAH waaah waaha wwaaahe ww aah AAAHwwwaaahhh WAAHHAA waaha wwaaahewwwaaahhh WAAHHAA! aaahahhhaa waahah, waaah WAAH WAAAAH waaah waaha wwaaahe ww aah AAAHwwwaaahhh WAAHHAA ww aah WAAAH ww aah. WAAAHww aah WAAAH I'm totally unbiased btw, but that's how I read that Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody!
VCBee 2fast2furious Aliastra	Posted - 2011.05.21 07:59:00 - [20] sorry your overpowered killmail printer is going to be balanced


CCP Spitfire C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2011.05.21 08:18:00 - [21] Duplicate thread, locked. Please keep the discussion here. Spitfire Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online



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