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Culmen
Caldari Vigrior The Dominion Empire
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Posted - 2011.05.28 19:40:00 -
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In options, Check boxes for Load Environment Load Captains Quarters
My PC is not particularly fast, but it runs the rest of eve just fine. I'm typing this up because the captains quarters have slowed down my in-station experience so much I have time while my damn fitting screen loads.
Hauler pilots for mining ops can't possibly like this. They have to wait for the environment to load, search around for the cargo hold button, and then open up the station hanger.
As oppose to now, where it's just double click, drag.
You've promised Incarna was going to be optional, please keep your promise. and further more why do i even need a sig? |
Jacque Cruix
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Posted - 2011.05.28 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Culmen My PC is not particularly fast, but it runs the rest of eve just fine.
Just wait until future improvements to Eve come out. Then your older machine won't run it very well either.
It's the way of things for a game that the Developers improve upon instead of replace.
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IsTheOpOver
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Posted - 2011.05.28 19:48:00 -
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I agree with the OP.
Please allow an option to turn these things off.
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Myra2007
Millstone Industries
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Posted - 2011.05.28 19:50:00 -
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This has been asked for many times. Apparently ccp people won't touch this one with a barge pole.
That is basically equivalent to: "Sucks to be you!"
Also expect to get molested by people who believe their enjoyment of incarna will suffer if *other* people get to opt out of it. Yeah, that's right people are that stupid. --
Originally by: CCP Elais
It was a great Frankenstein moment [...] to see the forum [...] come alive.
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Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2011.05.28 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Culmen
I'm typing this up because the captains quarters have slowed down my in-station experience so much I have time while my damn fitting screen loads.
Hauler pilots for mining ops can't possibly like this. They have to wait for the environment to load, search around for the cargo hold button, and then open up the station hanger.
You mean macro miners and bot haulers now will have more problems? Good to hear!
Because on my 3 years old computer CQ loading faster than undock counter expires not to mention Duality is still work in progress and not optimized. It doesn't matter how fast you can refit ship or reload your cargo if you still can't undock in 30 seconds. CQ not related to this in any way, but you can keep whining.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.05.28 19:53:00 -
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Supported. ~~~ Signature removed as inappropriate for these forums. Navigator Pathetic.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.05.28 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Culmen In options, Check boxes for Load Environment Load Captains Quarters
Would love that myself. However, their decision was that they want to showcase/testdrive the "technology" on as many people as possible.
So, the two options (IF they will even exist at all) will actually be the same option. We will no longer get the current in-station environments, they'll be allegedly gone for good.
Let's hope we WILL have the option to NOT load CQ and just stare at a black background instead. _
Make ISK||Build||React||1k papercuts
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Scorpii Orion
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:07:00 -
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Look bitter vets, world is changing. Adapt.
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Simetraz
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:08:00 -
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Did you totally ignore all the old menus and options are still there ?
Just ignore the new back ground image and move on. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpii Orion Look bitter vets, world is changing. Adapt.
Just because you adapt doesn't mean you have to LIKE it and not want to retain OPTIONS. That's why you call them bitter vets as opposed to ex-players. _
Make ISK||Build||React||1k papercuts
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Lady Spank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpii Orion Look bitter vets, world is changing. Adapt.
I'll probably quit. ~~~ Signature removed as inappropriate for these forums. Navigator Pathetic.
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Myfanwy Heimdal
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:12:00 -
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Better bitter vets than future ex-players.
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Culmen
Caldari Vigrior The Dominion Empire
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Simetraz Did you totally ignore all the old menus and options are still there ?
Just ignore the new back ground image and move on.
I want to ignore the back ground images, like I already do with the station environment.
But the game won't let me ignore it because A) It's slowing down the rest of the menus to a crawl B) It's loading a lot slower
Solve A and B and I officially won't give a toss. and further more why do i even need a sig? |
Blnukem 192
Amarr Shadows of the Empire
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Scorpii Orion Look bitter vets, world is changing. Adapt.
I'll probably quit.
I'll probably quit too. 10 minutes just to reship or fit something is a bit nuts...
And I'm not spending $3,000 on a new PC just so I can dock again... And no, you guys can't have my stuff.
Originally by: CCP Navigator This is really not worthy of a thread.
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Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Myfanwy Heimdal Better bitter vets than future ex-players.
Better one new player than ten bittervet whiners that leave game and forum each day only to return tomorrow and whine about something different.
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Mina Sulva'r
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:18:00 -
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Even though I am really, really looking forward to Incarna, I also would like the option to toggle between captains quarters and the "old" station environment.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:21:00 -
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it renders a tiny still image file. Which does not slow down your UI.
They just need a check box for it not go any furthur than that jpeg.
there is no point to keeping the old hanger view as it was featureless.
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Captain Hindsite
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:24:00 -
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I can run two clients at max settings and 1920 x 1080 for 60 fps per, so I'm sure I'll have no problems with CQ on the qraphics front. However, having an option to load the environment is simply a straightforward, common-sense necessity given the time added to reship/refit/grab something you forgot in your hangar.
/supported
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:27:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 28/05/2011 20:29:25
Originally by: Blnukem 192 I'm not spending $3,000 on a new PC just so I can dock again.
To be fair, you could probably make due just fine with a 100$ upgrade. Maybe even less. I guess it would depend on what you already have and what FPS level you'd deem acceptable on what graphics options.
The maximum I ever spent on one PC was around 950 EUR, and for that price I'd get at least 3 years of bloody good performance, with 1 more of decent enough performance and maybe 1 more year of "meh, still works". My previous PC cost me under 300 EUR and was acceptable for roughly 2 years, and the only thing that wasn't that great was the video card, which I could have easily upgraded cheaply if I really wanted to. I didn't really bother, until it burned out (passive cooling in scorching hot room equals baaaaad things). Then I got a replacement card for that machine (an even WEAKER one), set it as "common computer" in the living room and also got a brand new machine altogether to use for myself.
P.S. If what "some people" say is true (haven't checked, can somebody confirm?) and you DO have the option to use a still background image, then this whole debate line is irrelevant anyway. _
Make ISK||Build||React||1k papercuts
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Blnukem 192
Amarr Shadows of the Empire
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:28:00 -
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Edited by: Blnukem 192 on 28/05/2011 20:32:27 Edited by: Blnukem 192 on 28/05/2011 20:30:26
Originally by: Captain Hindsite common-sense
...But the marketing agents said that doesn't sell...
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Blnukem 192 I'm not spending $3,000 on a new PC just so I can dock again.
To be fair, you could probably make due just fine with a 100$ upgrade. Maybe even less. I guess it would depend on what you already have and what FPS level you'd deem acceptable on what graphics options.
The maximum I ever spent on one PC was around 950 EUR, and for that price I'd get at least 3 years of bloody good performance, with 1 more of decent enough performance and maybe 1 more year of "meh, still works". My previous PC cost me under 300 EUR and was acceptable for roughly 2 years, and the only thing that wasn't that great was the video card, which I could have easily upgraded cheaply if I really wanted to. I didn't really bother, until it burned out (passive cooling in scorching hot room equals baaaaad things). Then I got a replacement card for that machine (an even WEAKER one), set it as "common computer" in the living room and also got a brand new machine altogether to use for myself.
Alright, alright... $1,500 would be more realistic. But still... It's unnecessary. EVE runs fine on max settings and two clients right now, but with CQ... 5 FPS isn't fun. And neither is having your items window nearly crash your computer when you look at it.
Originally by: CCP Navigator This is really not worthy of a thread.
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Simetraz
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:29:00 -
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You know there is section for feed back.
If you are serious you could post ther in a way that would constructive and they just might listen. Posting in general discussion makes your opinion look like you are just trolling
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Sha Dar
CONCORD Developments
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:31:00 -
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They won't make it optional.
They want EVERYONE to be good little guinea pigs and do their bug testing for WOD for them, all the while paying for the privilege.
I'd love to be proved wrong, as I want nothing at all it offers, or purports to offer, and would like it to be optional, but I can't see it happening.
As for older machines being the argument to have it optional, that won't fly any more. Most developers will try to push the envelope, ccp the same, and older machines just aren't factored into the thinking, hence the removal of the classic client.
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Blnukem 192
Amarr Shadows of the Empire
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Simetraz You know there is section for feed back.
If you are serious you could post ther in a way that would constructive and they just might listen. Posting in general discussion makes your opinion look like you are just trolling
We did post there.
CCP is just too silent about it.
Originally by: CCP Navigator This is really not worthy of a thread.
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Anddeh McNab
Cadre Assault Force
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Scorpii Orion Look bitter vets, world is changing. Adapt.
Just because you adapt doesn't mean you have to LIKE it and not want to retain OPTIONS. That's why you call them bitter vets as opposed to ex-players.
Normally I'd agree with Scorpii's opinion but the vast majority of all parts of EVE have always been optional (barring PvP). I'm personally looking forward to CQ with a raging hardon being the psuedo-RPer I am but it would still be nice for it to be optional for those that don't want it. --- There are two sides to the EVE community; those that scream for change and those that scream against it. Often they are the same person. |
Mister Smithington
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:53:00 -
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Although captains quarters alone is somewhat marginal, I'm actually looking forward to the other features promised with Incarna. I think a lot of the rage and tears are unfounded and immature.
Having said that, I'm not at all opposed to a "don't load CQ environment" option similar to the current "don't load station enviornment" option. And honestly I haven't yet heard a good argument why such an option doesn't exist.
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Kalle Demos
Amarr Helix Protocol
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Posted - 2011.05.28 21:01:00 -
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I use windows 95 too
Btw incarna doesnt really change much, we can reship and do all the same things EXACTLY the same way before, I think that is the main issue with incarna that after years of developing it really doesnt bring anything new since you can do the exact same things as you can now. .
Im not Bismaru, im better! |
Blnukem 192
Amarr Shadows of the Empire
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Posted - 2011.05.28 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Kalle Demos I use windows 95 too
Btw incarna doesnt really change much, we can reship and do all the same things EXACTLY the same way before...
Except... The reason why we're so upset... Is that it takes 5-10 minutes to do those old things now.
Originally by: CCP Navigator This is really not worthy of a thread.
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FuzzyLogik360
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.05.28 21:11:00 -
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Edited by: FuzzyLogik360 on 28/05/2011 21:14:41 Getting the balance right between "functionality" and "asthetic" is going to be really tough in this instance. We know that the extra "bling" of walking in stations will bring a certain amount of enjoyment to many players. Equally, however, speed and efficiency are to order of the day if you want to maximise ISK (if that is what you like doing) and so you might as well do away with the fancy graphics (it is called spreadsheets in space for a reason).
Clearly the community will be split on this issue, but everyone should have an equal right to play the game the way they choose. I feel CCP absolutely have to give the option to turn-off the Captains Quarters - this is a key requirement of the player-base.
My personal opinion... well why the hell would I "walk" to the hangar to launch my ship, when I can launch it from the toolbar. In the end, everything in Captains Quarters is redeundant, because everything can be done faster using the original UI system. Only now everything does take longer, because I'm waiting for a jittery Captains Quarters' to load.
I think it is quite telling that in a world of flashy Apple devices, serious people in proper jobs still use linux command-line because function wins out over asthetic every time.
EDIT: Actually, if this game does need a little asthetic tinkering, then it's the space environement. I know it is in the pipe-line, but seriously this is needed way more than we need walking in stations.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.05.28 21:12:00 -
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Make Eve Dx11 required! Get rid of the poor people
Originally by: Xenuria
I don't need a LICENSE to take a photoshooped image and lay it on top of the game client and make pretend my character is naked.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2011.05.28 22:26:00 -
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Basically CCP is F-----g us over in an effort to encourage us to make micro transactions.
Its very low and its CCP going back on their word.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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